Interconnectedness

2 years, 4 months ago

Whether or not you believe in the interconnectedness of reality, if you can wrap your head around the concept I’d appreciate the input.

For a time now I’ve held the belief that all of reality is connected, basing this belief in quantum theory. The problem I have is that presupposing this interconnectedness, does this mean everything I do, say, think, feel have a significant effect on any/everything else? If this is true (and I believe it is) does it not stand to reason that if I behave morally or immorrally, then my world/experience will change accordingly and respectively? Likewise with my heath wellbeing; if I behave orderly where my body requires, my surroundings will more orderly and I will experience a heathful environment. Therefore, rather than attempting to escape an unstable community/evironment/town/state/nation, I would merely need focus on my own homeostasis in order to create homeostasis in my environment (i presume my instability would follow me whereever).

Im not looking to debate interconnectedness, but if you could place yourself in my shoes, place yourself in the “I”, imagine that you’re the one asking these questions, I would greatly appreciate it. Look at this as a mental exercise and share what thoughts, insights, theories or epiphanies that can.
Thank you in advance for your time.
“I havn’t lost my mind, I’ve just lost the keys to it…”

October 29, 2012 at 5:17 pm

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Profile photo of Matthew Matthew (@ojai) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@aidenblair, Do you mean by you just being how you are, your nature, and how you decide to feel/act/do effect the outcome of what will happen to you? I must get a better understanding before I can elaborate on what I think. Or am I off from what you’re saying? Hahah

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Profile photo of Aiden Aiden (@aidenblair) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@ojai, Mainly what you (or I/we/he/she) do/say/feel affects the reality you percieve, i.e. everything your senses are aware of as well as everything/everywhere you can contemplate at any given time. Think of it like ripples in a pond, only the ripples are perpetual and originate from you, and the pond is the universe. Eventually the ripples fade the farther they spread, but ripples have somewhat of an effect and also interfere with other ripples.
Hope that helped…

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Profile photo of Sasho Stoyanov Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Ok, you got me with the theory that we’re all one and everything is connected and all that, even when I don’t even communicate with anyone.

Has anyone experienced this phenomenon.. besides me? On HE, whatever I see through the day and however awkward and different it was, I see a thread made here the same day about that same shit. I mean, it’s alright to just search for it, but the timing is.. it happens every time which makes it interesting. And I don’t reply to those threads which are like reading my own interpretations of my experiences, I just read them and leave them like they were there “just like that, for me, because we might be all connected and my brain knows it somehow”, but I also get crazy ideas. That sounds really fucking stupid, I know.

I am dealing with a problem concerning interconnectedness though, now that I’m in a university I can’t even try to have time for giving my mind time to consciously analyze everything like it usually does. I am surrounded by ignorance and people just getting by so they would get through another day, or people that just want to have fun and not in the passionate creative way. I can’t have that. I don’t even bother perceiving bullshit, I’m throwing it out of my imagination range. I have no idea where I’m going with this. I’m just gonna hit reply.

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Profile photo of Filip Filip M (@filipek) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@aidenblair, YES, to all your questions. Everything is connected with each other and therefore everything influences everything.

This can be simply seen that there is a balance, that everything exists. Without this balance things would not be able to exist in my opinion. Even if you would remove one atom, somewhere out of the universe, and let it disappear into oblivion without being transformed into anything else (neither energy, nor ‘material’) (which obviously is impossible per definition), then a chaos would be born that would transform throughout the whole universe. I cannot even imagine what exactly would happen, since this is a highly hypothetical situation.

@beyond, What seems to be the problem then? I mean, what do the events that you are describing have to do with interconnectedness? Only the fact that you are the opposite of the people you are talking about, already explains the interconnectedness, because this opposite needs to exist in order for a balance to be created. So maybe if you try to see it in this perspective, that the ignorance you see, resemblances the opposite of ignorance in you, you may seem things in a more positive perspective.

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Profile photo of Chevallier Chevallier (@jermophobe) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@aidenblair, your thought process made me think of a forest. The trees are all interconnected by their roots, draw strength from their network, and give strength in return to the earth beneath. So the next question is: how can we draw our strength from our (social) surroundings ?

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Profile photo of Sasho Stoyanov Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@filipek, That makes sense. It’s just too distracting to figure it out on my own.

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Profile photo of Aiden Aiden (@aidenblair) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@filipek, Great answer, especially considering the theoretical discussion you could spark with the subject matter. I agree that because we know (only thus far, to the best of our knowledge) that matter/energy can neither be created nor destroyed, this discussion is purely hypothetical. But first, take for instance the Einstein-PodoLsky-Rosen experiment involving a two particle system of zero spin and a Stern-Gerlach device; you send one particle to point A through the Stern-Gerlach device and the magnetic field gives it a “spin-up,” and the other particle, moving in the opposite direction, simultaneously generates a “spin-down”. Having considered this, does it stand to reason that if it were possible to entirely destroy a particle, “let it disappear into oblivion” as you say, then merely it’s mirror particle would disappear? Or would deleting one particle cause a chain reaction of imbalance that would require multiple parts (if not all) of the whole be “removed”? This could serve as an interesting topic.

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Profile photo of Aiden Aiden (@aidenblair) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@jermophobe, Simple (theoretically :))
Since Newton’s law of action (every action has an equal and opposing reaction) is the exact same concept as the Buddhist Karma, we can gather that every action (or lack thereof), positive or negative (since everything in our physical world has a + or – charge), we make will result in an equal (charge wise) and opposite (direction wise) reaction.
In essence, by acting positively, we receive positive energy from our surroundings in amounts equal to our initial exertion.
Now you might be saying, “Well that’s not a gain, that’s simply an exchange,” and you’d be right, since +10 – +5 + +5 = +10.
So how do we profit from our surroundings?
We don’t.
We simply have to maintain a proper balance of positive and negative charge within ourselves in order to maintain maximum efficiency for our current form (<notice I said "current" form, this principle doesn't apply to non-local/non-physical form).
How does one know what a proper balance is? It varies from person to person, so you have to learn that for yourself through self-awareness and meditation. And most of the time, your body is aware of it, and will act accordingly. Basically, if your feeling negative "express" it (<I use quotes because I mean the root meaning of the word, "to put into words… to show, manifest, reveal…) and if your feeling positive, express it. Never hold back or repress anything, as this will only do you harm. Keep in mind, positive and negative are relative to the person, so use your discretion when consciously practicing this.

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Profile photo of Filip Filip M (@filipek) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@aidenblair, you are talking about quantum physics right now (particles influencing (mirroring) each other in some kind of way, no matter the spacedistance (as our definition is right now) between them), which is a very interesting, but also very difficult subject of which I unfortunately not know a lot about.

But I do not think the mirror particle would disappear as well, I think it would just lose its connectedness with the other particle that disappeared and establish another connection by simply transcending its energy (?). Hmm, while I type this, I imagine that your explanation could be true as well. I think there would be chaos one way or the other, how it would manifests itself, I have absolutely no idea. I imagine the universe imploding or something like that, and with this implosion creating a new balance again from where a new Big Bang could arise.

I love intellectual masturbation, thanks for those thought questions!

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