Is anyone really okay with dying?
why wouldn’t you be ok with dying? If you live your life with minimal regrets, you shouldn’t have anything to fear.
I am totally, completely okay with dying.
@cheeky, I think its mostly the sorrow of losing your sense of self. you cease to be forever.
i think of us part of everything in existance. with every end we have a beginning. what if we are just part of a cycle of energy and matter. or something like that (:
I fear death at the moment, but soon I shall drop the fear of death with the full-blown realization that we never really die, as we are just consciousness expressing itself as humans for a little while.
@jameslancaster, this is what I want to believe as well
@anjelica, being human feels like we have amnesia, like were here for some divine purpose we agreed too… In the past, I’ve had many psychedellic experiences and always saw “ladders” and “levels” in these visions. It feels like were here to get up some levels. Human life feels like we are soil to water… to clean the contaminates our of our spirit perhaps. Great thread :)
“End? No, the journey doesn’t end here. Death is just another path… One that we all must take. The grey rain curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores… And beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise.”
I’m pretty sure I will cease to exist when I die, that sounds bad but I figure I wont care at that point and if I am not thinking about life when I’m dead then why should I think about death when I’m alive? It would be granting too much time to death, I have forever to be dead why should I waste the little time I am not dead thinking about that?
@iambrian, I would choose immortality in an instant, and I really hope it becomes available within our lifetimes. It would be awesome to have forever to reflect and grow, and think of new things to do with your life.
The only thing that helps me with the concept of death is to avoid thinking about it.
@theskafish, I really hope that sort of technology does not ever happen. We have disrupted the natural order of things enough as it is. If that became a choice for anyone I’m sure A LOT of people would be selfish enough to want eternal life, but that is just not natural. There are far to many people on this planet as it is, the last thing we need is for them to become immortal. Just sayin’ … please don’t take offense this is a hypothetical question afterall. XD
@amalthea42, No offense taken. But I do have a defense to my point. Simply, who is anyone else to deny someone eternal life? I think it should be there for those who want it, and if someone doesn’t want it then that is their choice. Personally I don’t think however many years my body will live is enough…there’s always more things to master, more places to go, more books to read, more interests to find and more memories to make. I don’t see how eternal life is selfish at all…..instead of people having so many kids, we could just become immortal instead. Instead of worrying about generations that don’t exist yet, we could take the best care out of all the ones that do exist here today.
Plus, no one said that being immortal would necessitate a human body, taking care of the concern about space. Have you ever read the graphic novel series called “Transmetropolitan”? In it, some people choose to become immortal by uploading their minds into a cloud of subatomic particles. They are still alive, take up next to no space, and require no food, drink, medicine, shelter, nor sleep. I’d live my life until I couldn’t use this body anymore, then I’d go foglet for sure.
Fear to the unknown is very natural. In order to escape from this fear I keep open mind to the fact that there is no absolute truth of things. This means, be open to any possibility. This is necessary to follow any of the following “ideas”.
I think death is necessary.
@theskafish, Reflecting for ever seems like a bore. What use is mastering things anyway? To put food in your eternally fed stomach? Pure indulgence?
@theskafish, That does sound really neat, I’d be ok with that. I wouldn’t deny anyone anything it’s not my place to. I just didn’t like the idea of just any idiot off the street to become imortal you know? If it was to be imortal in your human form I think you would have to be required to take an IQ test or something. Just to be safe XD What your describing kinda sounds like this anime: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_Experiments_Lain
@cognizantelephant, mastering things is whatever use you want it to be. For me it would be the experience of making cool things, of doing something worthwhile with my existence.
This is why I’m so bothered by the institution of work. When we’re born we have this whole life ahead of us, but then we have to go and get jobs and spend the rest of our healthy years doing stuff for society and not for ourselves, not even coming close to living how we actually want to. You don’t get more than one life, and most of us don’t even really get to use that…if you were immortal, then no one could hold food and shelter over your head, no one could use lack to bend you to their will. You’d be free to just be.
@theskafish, you are right, there will be a lot of people that would like to live for ever (younght hopefully haha), and others would prefer the “one shot” approach.
It is like choosing ice cream flavors chocolat VS vanilla but you can only have one.
Don’t judge, don’t say what side is better or worst, just respect and remember that if there are any choices, you WILL find people that will take any of the choices. What about a third posibility, I choose to died but get revive in 20 years (if technology makes it posible, remember there is already dead people on frozen state “ready” to be revive when the tech is at hand).
What if dying is a WOOOW trip, and I wanna do it several times??? heheh keep mind open
@amalthea42, actually, I think I’ve seen some of that anime before. I’d like to see the rest someday, I’ll have to get in touch with my friend who has it.
I don’t know about the IQ test before….just because someone is not smart doesn’t mean they should be sentenced to death, sounds too much like eugenics to me. Not only that but if they could live forever, then hopefully eventually they’d get smarter. And why do most people do dumb, or criminal things? Lack. And with immortality, lack will no longer be a problem.
@theskafish, I’m from Eugene so maybe thats why I have that sort of mind set. XD It could also be because of the fact that I really don’t like humans anyway and I think we should all die… but eh I’m impartial..
@iambrian, energy cannot be destroyed, relax. It flows and changes patterns, that
@theskafish, Have you looked into the works of Professor Aubrey De Grey? Very fascinating stuff. Search for articles on Telomeres and immortality as well. I don’t quite know if we can achieve immortality, but I do believe we have the resources to live for hundreds of years.
@iambrian, I haven’t heard of this Aubrey de Grey, but I will most certainly check his/her (not sure if that’s a male or female name) material out! Thanks man.
@, Have you been living in a tent for a while? just curious lol
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