Is anyone really okay with dying?
I know I’m not! I feel like we’re forced into accepting this, and making ourselves okay with it. Deep down, I don’t believe I’ll die of old age, or anyone in my generation for that matter. I truly believe our technology will advance enormous amounts due to the theory of singularity and we will either achieve immortality or an extremely long life span within my lifetime.
But back to the question….
Are you truly okay with dying? If you had an option to choose immortality, would you choose it? What helps you accept the fact that you and all you know will cease to exist in the only way you have truly known?
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@theskafish, you are right, there will be a lot of people that would like to live for ever (younght hopefully haha), and others would prefer the “one shot” approach.
It is like choosing ice cream flavors chocolat VS vanilla but you can only have one.
Don’t judge, don’t say what side is better or worst, just respect and remember that if there are any choices, you WILL find people that will take any of the choices. What about a third posibility, I choose to died but get revive in 20 years (if technology makes it posible, remember there is already dead people on frozen state “ready” to be revive when the tech is at hand).
What if dying is a WOOOW trip, and I wanna do it several times??? heheh keep mind open
@iambrian totally fine with it. once we’ve totally accepted the fact that dying is inevitable then our mind would be at peace. i mean would there be anything else that’s scary to think of? i think there’s none. i wouldn’t want to be immortal also coz i don’t wanna end up collecting graduation caps like the Cullen’s. lol.
I am. I just joined HE & this was first thing I saw. I am okay with dying. I only fear suffering terribly for a great length of time. I am okay with dying because I know I am not only a body but also moreso a spirit. Spirit is eternal. Therefore, I will never die. What is it you fear of dying? The pain/suffering? Or the being ‘gone forever’ like game over? I don’t know how I follow on here yet so I hope I figure it out
@anjelica, being human feels like we have amnesia, like were here for some divine purpose we agreed too… In the past, I’ve had many psychedellic experiences and always saw “ladders” and “levels” in these visions. It feels like were here to get up some levels. Human life feels like we are soil to water… to clean the contaminates our of our spirit perhaps. Great thread :)
Death is something I’ve tried to contemplate more and more on. Not out of fear, but curiosity and perhaps understanding.
I don’t want my life to go by and suddenly I’m 80 years old and wondering where the hell my life went. I want to be as present and aware as possible for it and learn/grow from it and enjoy it as much as I can
I think a lot of People spend most of their lives living as if they will never die (myself included). This causes us to feel its okay to be completely unaware of time or events as they pass. To be caught up in thoughts and try to waste time as much as possible.
When the thought of death comes up, we might suppress it or block the thought so they can continue living a life that “will never end”. When death or near death comes for us, it seems unexpected and sudden, we feel we have not lived, we have regrets. Whereas if perhaps we came to terms with it more, we may have had a better time accepting it and being at peace.
I had a dream a while ago where my city was being bombed and I literally had no escape. It was extremely vivid and real. I watched the bomber planes getting closer and closer and at first it was intense fear and my blood ran cold. Then I thought “you know what, there’s nothing I can do right now, I’m going to die and I think I can accept that”. I opened my arms and welcomed whatever may come next, I died via bomb and woke up.
Ever since that dream, for some reason, I feel more okay with the fact that I will die. It was actually a profound experience for such a short and simple dream.
Anyway, that’s my take on it.
Fuck technology, embrace the Earth Mother – no schizo
No really, fuck technology.
What has it done for us thus far? Increased the space between us while exploring space like some hopeless addict who doesn’t know what he wants?
Where the fuck do you think it will lead us? Some hyper cerebral reality that is barren of what makes us human, that’s where. I want to look into the eyes of a living mother fucker whenever I want for as long as I live. Take that away from me and I might as well be dead.
@amalthea42, actually, I think I’ve seen some of that anime before. I’d like to see the rest someday, I’ll have to get in touch with my friend who has it.
I don’t know about the IQ test before….just because someone is not smart doesn’t mean they should be sentenced to death, sounds too much like eugenics to me. Not only that but if they could live forever, then hopefully eventually they’d get smarter. And why do most people do dumb, or criminal things? Lack. And with immortality, lack will no longer be a problem.
I think we are born to build our dreams an hopes, and we have a life to accomplish them. Also, I believe that when we die it is because we have completed our purpose in life (not because of a religious doctrine). So I enjoy life to the fullest, but no, im not scared of death.
& this is the most difficult & painful realm I hope to ever exist in…this life in this body. I welcome ‘death’….death of this body…just not by suicide as I don’t want to be in greater difficulty when I am put elsewhere/ redoing life. I attempted suicide 2 times, I was on life support equipment both times, & now grateful I was since I know what I now believe to be 100% true. I claim no religion at all.. :)
“End? No, the journey doesn’t end here. Death is just another path… One that we all must take. The grey rain curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass. And then you see it. White shores… And beyond. A far green country, under a swift sunrise.”
Death is but another journey one must take. I don’t fear death itself, my fear lies in how death will take me. If I could choose to be imortal or to die like any other living thing, I would most definitely choose death. It’s like this Taoist quote: “Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don’t resist them; that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like.”
@iambrian, I saw deaths almost hundreds for 4 years during my internship… and I’m always feel sad.
but if you’ll ask me for immortality? Considering my beliefs.. No, I will not stay here on earth..
I’m for immortality.Why bcoz i love being alive and being alive will mean anything dependent on the circumstances,for now its tethered to the experiences i have with my body.Many see the technology as a vice,a corruption of the natural order;question is how would you know?By virtue of inclusion in the process of our existence technology is in itself part and person of the natural order creating a new paradigm in nature as is with the emergence of any new thing in a self regulating system,in fact one may go far enough to say it was intended as so i.e. mother nature created us to create technology so as to create the paradigm of nature+technology.In essence we strive everyday via advances in all fields of our existence to increase the duration of our experiences in planet as its the greatest gift from our universe to itself.
@anjelica, Because thats what the main function of the brain is, to process information and formulate meaning. Humans are fascinated with the unknown and mystery (search ‘joe rogan and conspiracy theories’ on youtube for a good laugh at this). Existence is fascinating as fuck. I walked past a poster at my university the other day that said there was going to be a priest and an aeithist debating god and existence. I thought this is the most useless waste of time, because neither was going to convince the other of anything, and theres no way to gauge whether either was coming closer to ‘truth’, cause we just don’t know. Both were seemingly wasting their time. But yet, its fascinating to ponder, right?
@danfontaine Technology has given you the computer for which you can express your arrogant opinion. I try to be as nice and as positive a person as I can but your comment really dumbfounded me.
Read of Aldous Huxley’s death. He didn’t write it himself, but his wife wrote it for him and it is beautiful. Long story short, in case you don’t want to read it, death was so easy because life was so hard. He also took LSD whilst dying which is pretty intriguing.
I like this idea called eternal recurrence or eternal return. I don’t really know how it would apply to life/death/afterlife but I have some theories.
The idea behind this is that: If the universe is infinite then the reality we know will reoccur an infinte ammount of times, as will every possible alternative. As quantum physics theory has postulated that the universe likely operates on an infinite variable, that is mathematically definable, this theory actually becomes a whole lot more relevant to us now.
Some theories I have about it are: you die an infinite ammount of times in your life time, every step you take is a step where you have dropped dead in this infinite variable. Another thing is you never really die because you, as you, is existing at some point in infinite for infinity.
@anjelica, “Some days it makes complete sense that other dimensions exist that we are meant for and other days I am completely crushed by my insignificance and the pointlessness of creating meaning in a meaningless world that can only lead to death.”
I’m the same exact way, switching my opinion on that all the time. But even if this life is pointless, even if there’s nothing after this, you still get to enjoy this life and then you won’t be conscious anymore, so there’s nothing to be afraid of. No matter what the outcome, you can’t do anything about it so once you really realize that, it will start to bother you less and less.
I think I’m okay with it. I certainly no longer feel much sadness when I hear that someone’s dead anymore. Just because you’re dead, doesn’t mean you’re gone. Energy can’t be created or destroyed so you’re energy is still floating about, maybe it a few trees or flowers or maybe in another animal. Your atoms break down and join to other things such as the air or the ground. So you’re still about, just a little less organised and a little less conscious. I don’t really care what happens after death because right now, I’m too busy living. I kinda hope I don’t suffer too much when dying but at the same time, it’s okay if I do because at least then, I know I tried my best to survive and to keep experiencing life.
@theskafish, Have you looked into the works of Professor Aubrey De Grey? Very fascinating stuff. Search for articles on Telomeres and immortality as well. I don’t quite know if we can achieve immortality, but I do believe we have the resources to live for hundreds of years.