I know I’m not! I feel like we’re forced into accepting this, and making ourselves okay with it. Deep down, I don’t believe I’ll die of old age, or anyone in my generation for that matter. I truly believe our technology will advance enormous amounts due to the theory of singularity and we will either achieve immortality or an extremely long life span within my lifetime.
But back to the question….
Are you truly okay with dying? If you had an option to choose immortality, would you choose it? What helps you accept the fact that you and all you know will cease to exist in the only way you have truly known?
@flightfacilities, I like the idea that the light at the end of the tunnel is you heading down your mothers birth canal to be born again in baby you, it will be 1979 again and your memory engrams from dead you cannot be sucessfully transfered to baby you because baby you has not established the neuropathways to support dead yous memories.
I am. I just joined HE & this was first thing I saw. I am okay with dying. I only fear suffering terribly for a great length of time. I am okay with dying because I know I am not only a body but also moreso a spirit. Spirit is eternal. Therefore, I will never die. What is it you fear of dying? The pain/suffering? Or the being ‘gone forever’ like game over? I don’t know how I follow on here yet so I hope I figure it out
& this is the most difficult & painful realm I hope to ever exist in…this life in this body. I welcome ‘death’….death of this body…just not by suicide as I don’t want to be in greater difficulty when I am put elsewhere/ redoing life. I attempted suicide 2 times, I was on life support equipment both times, & now grateful I was since I know what I now believe to be 100% true. I claim no religion at all.. :)
I like this idea called eternal recurrence or eternal return. I don’t really know how it would apply to life/death/afterlife but I have some theories.
The idea behind this is that: If the universe is infinite then the reality we know will reoccur an infinte ammount of times, as will every possible alternative. As quantum physics theory has postulated that the universe likely operates on an infinite variable, that is mathematically definable, this theory actually becomes a whole lot more relevant to us now.
Some theories I have about it are: you die an infinite ammount of times in your life time, every step you take is a step where you have dropped dead in this infinite variable. Another thing is you never really die because you, as you, is existing at some point in infinite for infinity.
Death is nearly as important as life.
We would not be here today if not for death.
Like apoptosis (programmed cell deaths), the termination of lifeforms evolved to clear the way for the diversification of life… without which inter-competition of limited resources would hijack the opportunities for more capable subspecies to leapfrog past the barriers of nature… a diverse gene pool increases probability of survival in an ever-changing environment…
with exceptions of trees in forests that live for millenniums or certain corals in oceans living hundreds, ancient colonies of species that thrived typically endow short lifespans…
but keep in mind evolution works at multiple levels, simultaneously…
the fear of death in sentient beings evolved as a means to prolong their survival… just long enough for procreation and protection of offspring… this intrinsic fear, however, begets a cascade of behavioral side-effects plaguing humanity, not just at a personal level which we experienced ourselves.
Though this Darwinian model may help me cope with our eventual demise, and the heart-wrenching departures of our loved ones… i’m fully aware that when judgement day arrives, those instinctual adverse reactions toward death processed in our lower, primal brain lobes will surely override said rationality in the outer lobes… i will react squeamishly like the third apes that we are, on that one grave day… hopefully not days…
until the day death knocks on my front door, i will try to live each moment knowing that the tabooed concept of death is actually a gift disguised in black (like rain)… a sacred heirloom, responsibly passed down from one cell to the next, and one life form to the other… a collective, sacrificial ritual performed by all lifeforms on Earth, for billions of years…
i will accept this grand gesture as much as i accept day followed by night… with deep reverence to our past ancestors… with shared camaraderie with our present relatives (encompassing all cohabitants of this planet)… and with compassionate hope for our future descendants.
I believe dying is a concept none of us know or really understand, but understand that it is a part of life and is going to happen at some point, therefore, we all try to make ourselves as comfortable with the idea as possible. Either by believing in a religion that promises another wonderful life after death or that we will come back on earth somehow etc. Me, personally, I have no clue what will happen to me when I die. None of us do. So, I just want to live my life to the point to where when I am dying or when its my time or whatever, I am content and ready to pass on to something new.
I’ll cross that bridge when it is time. Everything in the universe points to rebirth (not in ”I” will be reborn but matter is constantly shifting, think about the stars that blew up to become our solar system and the millions of lifeforms of earth) so who knows what will be next. Being a tree would be dope; just bask in the sun all day and sway with the wind. No bills, no worries, just being.
@iambrian, Not sure if anyone has brought this up (cuz I’m too lazy to read through 4 pages of replies). Complete mortality is impossible. Heres a list of things that a mortality cure could immunize against:
-Getting hit by lightening
-Getting hit by a car
And obviously the list goes on. Accept what is meant to be and you will feel free. Its like trying to get the extra life in a mario game and wasting 3 lives getting it. Just get to the end of the fucking level and enjoy the game.
Death is something I’ve tried to contemplate more and more on. Not out of fear, but curiosity and perhaps understanding.
I don’t want my life to go by and suddenly I’m 80 years old and wondering where the hell my life went. I want to be as present and aware as possible for it and learn/grow from it and enjoy it as much as I can
I think a lot of People spend most of their lives living as if they will never die (myself included). This causes us to feel its okay to be completely unaware of time or events as they pass. To be caught up in thoughts and try to waste time as much as possible.
When the thought of death comes up, we might suppress it or block the thought so they can continue living a life that “will never end”. When death or near death comes for us, it seems unexpected and sudden, we feel we have not lived, we have regrets. Whereas if perhaps we came to terms with it more, we may have had a better time accepting it and being at peace.
I had a dream a while ago where my city was being bombed and I literally had no escape. It was extremely vivid and real. I watched the bomber planes getting closer and closer and at first it was intense fear and my blood ran cold. Then I thought “you know what, there’s nothing I can do right now, I’m going to die and I think I can accept that”. I opened my arms and welcomed whatever may come next, I died via bomb and woke up.
Ever since that dream, for some reason, I feel more okay with the fact that I will die. It was actually a profound experience for such a short and simple dream.
Anyway, that’s my take on it.
I’m for immortality.Why bcoz i love being alive and being alive will mean anything dependent on the circumstances,for now its tethered to the experiences i have with my body.Many see the technology as a vice,a corruption of the natural order;question is how would you know?By virtue of inclusion in the process of our existence technology is in itself part and person of the natural order creating a new paradigm in nature as is with the emergence of any new thing in a self regulating system,in fact one may go far enough to say it was intended as so i.e. mother nature created us to create technology so as to create the paradigm of nature+technology.In essence we strive everyday via advances in all fields of our existence to increase the duration of our experiences in planet as its the greatest gift from our universe to itself.
I’m not okay with my mind dying, but I could do without the problems that are caused by an aging physical body. I feel like my mind will be forever advancing but as I get older my body becomes less useful, and that doesn’t seem like a fair price to pay. I hold a glimmer of hope that death just means losing your physical body and carrying on consciousness.
I’d say people just have to keep it in perspective; Yes it is going to happen, no avoiding it at this stage in technology, and even then it would be hard to conceive of absolute eternal life, but would you want that? I seen Star Trek and these aliens said that mortals are afraid of death but immortals are afraid of living forever.
But all in all; what the fear of death can do is make us behave irrationally or contrary to the nature we value inside of us and want to project, so if the fear is making you do things you do not want to do then that is a reason, a principle of the matter, to not allow it to have that power. Our ego is telling us to live but then we can tell our ego not to be controlled in that way.
I’ve experience a lot of death in my life, mainly with the ones that i love, and i think after you’ve experienced so much death it will do one of two things to you.
Either destroy you, or make you into something stronger. Which i know sounds very cliche but i feel i’ve been through points where i could easily have been ‘destroyed’ but i persisted, and i was patient, and eventually i was able to find peace with it.
I came to the conclusion that death should be as expected and as respected as life, it comes for us all eventually regardless if you hope it doesnt or not. Death always wins in the end ;)
Its a part of life. We shouldn’t fear it. Nor should we hunt it down haha, you have a life, so by not fearing death you don’t automatically become suicidal, thats only if you let it destroy you.
if you let it make you stronger how ever, and you see death as i do, then it becomes less scary and more normal.
Don’t fight the way things are with your expectations of the way things should be :)
When death comes for us, if we have lived our lifes to the fullest there will be no reason to fear death.
I think fear only comes to those who feel they haven’t lived a complete life.
If you don’t feel like you’re ready to die tomorrow brother then you better get your act together and get enjoying this life :P only the lord (if he exists) knows when our time is over.
Don’t waste your life, but don’t be reckless either :) this universe is all about balance.
You have to find your balance, find your centre, find your BLISS!!!!!
and then go with it.
Be and do good.
Give more, expect less.
Live simply and free your heart from hate and your mind from worry :)
and concentrate on living!!!! worry about death when the time comes :P
and if you manage to live an amazing life, when the time comes you will be more than ready for it! :D
and you’ll be able to walk into death with your eyes open, and after that point what happens is completely up to you.
It all depends on what you believe there to be after death, which i think will be what you get.
Be careful what you wish for ;)
I feel different at times about death. Sometimes I feel excited to experience and find out what’s next after I live this life. Then other times the thought of possibly never seeing, or even recall knowing, my loved ones today absolutely breaks my heart and makes me not want to die, and scares the daylights out of me because my parents and sister are my safe haven. I used to have a lot of anxiety and fear about death even as a child, but I think with every day of having an open mind brings me closer to being ok with death. I like to think that even though I may not know it in the next life, my soul will be brought back to my parents and sisters souls in the next life. Like we may not recall being family in a previous life, but maybe they are my eternal life soul mates and we will always be together and carry through every life together
I wasn’t ok with this – actually used to worry myself stupid about it.. until recently.. I actually think now dying is just the end to a chapter of your existence.. Then you will jump over to the next stage in your journey (whatever that is). I guess there was a time I would’ve read someone writing this and thought they sounded nuts and a bit like a hippy, but I think its all part of waking up! Watch some documentaries & read some articles about it all – I have and its massively changed my outlook! Don’t stress its all good – enjoy life now :)
I personally am not okay with dying just yet. I accept that someday it must happen, as the only thing guaranteed in life the death that will follow. It is terrifying, the unknown, that is. I am just not ok with dying, YET! I have a life time of things to and I am fearful of them being ripped away from me.