Is the universe microscopic to something?

2 years, 4 months ago

Forever I have thought about the starting and ending of our universe. I also have been thinking about how little we are compared to the universe itself. Now what I’ve really been thinking about is what could make the whole universe as we know it look microscopic? Could something be so far out that it makes our universe look similar to a microscopic one celled organism. I’ve been researching a lot about how similar brain cells look to what we think the universe looks like. Could our universe just be a microscopic cell in another life? or something similar. I guess what I’m asking is what do you think is past the universe, does it fold on itself because its so big in perspective of us humans. Or is the universe tiny?

October 31, 2012 at 7:44 am

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

held within a grain of sand is every conceivable thing imaginable. It’s infinite. Scale is an illusion.

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Profile photo of simply(melon) simply(melon) (@morgy) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

the universe is so confusing. now that we have that out of the way, you have seen the pictures with the similarities between cells and our universe. could it be possible that they are connected? and to those of you who say the universe is infinite, how do you know? are you telling me you know exactly what the universe is. its all just theories.

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Profile photo of jgreen jgreen (@andropar) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@kwelch5528,

Well, thats very well possible, but I don´t see the point in thinking about it? What changes if you would know that there is something out there that is infinitly bigger than the universe?

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Profile photo of L.T L.T (@1love) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

The universe is part of a never-ending fractal.

The is no beginning nor end, we are all immortal.

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

jgreen…. Do you think someone said a very similar thing to some great scientist. I’m almost certain We won’t know whats past the universe in my life time. We may never know about it. But just ignoring it doesn’t seem very smart. If I’m right about the universe being tiny does that mean all the religions on this earth wrong?

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Profile photo of Nick Nick (@nickc2007) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Getting your head round infinity, simplified:

How many numbers are there between 0 and 1? Seems to me to be the proof that you can zoom in or out as far as you like.

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

What if we “zoomed out so far we started to see our self’s again.

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Profile photo of Chevallier Chevallier (@jermophobe) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, I think the idea of the universe resembling a fractal is meant to be philosophical, not literal. but, then again, who are we mere humans to guess the workings of the universe?

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Why not take it literally? Doesn’t seem like we have anything other way to picture it. what if we just keep zooming out we start to see another grain of sand on another planet then again and again. it just keeps cycling! wouldn’t a circular motion be the only way to understand infinite?

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Profile photo of jjj jjj (@crackedout6pack) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@kwelch5528, i have thought exactly the same thing so many times. Have you ever imagined a fly’s perspective and compared it to your own?
How many billions of perspectives there are for each species.
Do ants see clouds too? If they do, are these clouds just little convection currents that we dont notice/see..?
Are they even aware that we are another species when we reach down and grab them??
Am i just a cell in one huge being.. With a brain that is just really a nucleus?

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Profile photo of Achyut ram Achyut ram (@achyutram) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

No.

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Yes.

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, Finite universe? how are we debating if space ends??? thats impossible! even if it some how ended what is past that? Even if their is nothingness it still keeps going! @crackedout6pack, and I completely agree, its insane to think in different perspectives other than our own. We measure time from the lifetime we see! but what if time was measure in lifetimes of universe! Seeing the universe in a very speed up time is just a billion trillion galaxies spreading apart! but what if you keep going farther out to see more of these universes and even farther out to see clusters of these little balls of universes! what would that look like?

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Profile photo of littlemartian littlemartian (@littlemartian) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

(@kwelch5528) IMAGINE an infinite number of realities. In one, you never opened this copy of New Scientist. In another your parents never met so you weren’t born. In yet another, the Sun did not congeal out of a cold cloud of gas so there was no Earth.

It sounds strange, but multiple realities can explain some of the most baffling aspects of our Universe like how an electron can be in two places at once.

Although this so-called “Many Worlds” interpretation of quantum theory has been mired in controversy for years, it is gaining increasing acceptance. — NewScientist

And about religion
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.”

~Karl Marx

I hope this explains some things. :))

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

How can you think something just ends? I really am just going of what I know now of space which isn’t very much. But we live in a 3 dimensional world which sadly we only see in 2 dimensional. But with this comes the fact that we can go outward in any directions! I just can’t see space just ending. even if this wall that all the sudden ending all that we live in, what is after that? @alltoohuman

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Off*

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

So we will never be able to understand the fourth dimensions because even though we think we understand the 3rd dimension we only see in the 2nd dimension. So would it look different? how can we understand dimensions?

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Profile photo of forover100years forover100years (@forover100years) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@kwelch5528, Imagine a human who has no geographical knowledge and walks around the earth until he can find the end. Current knowledge would tell you well that’s ridiculous because there is no end. He will just keep walking around in a circle. But now imagine an electron inside an atom trying to find the end. It will find no end because the atom is a sphere more or less.Now imagine the universe, not that man may have the capabilities to even travel far enough, but say he did. He will not find the end, because there is no end. Given the first two examples, is it not possible that the universe itself may be a sphere, and all we are, are the inhabiters of an electron, trying to find out how this atom works. Now take another step back on the scale, and you may see that our atom (universe) if just another tiny piece making up this amazing being that is beyond comprehension…or maybe a cat…maybe we live on the back of a flea…on a cat.

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, I get what your saying and by all means you could be completely right, but just hear me out. By looking straight ahead at the computer you can see the dimensions of how far away they are, but you can tell how thick something is until you look at it from a different angle. Everything you see right now can be painted on a flat 2d paper. even looking at art you can “see dimension on the paper, you can tell how far away it is because of the shadowing and the positioning. so do we really see in 3dimensions? do we just think we do because we know for a fact we live in a 3dimensional world. right? we can circle something and see all the angles on it and in are head we can visually see what it would look like in 3d, but that doesn’t me we see in 3d. I may be completely wrong but i really like to question other people. Honestly you are very smart and I would like to be able to talk to you more easily. if thats cool.

Here is a quick Wikipedia thing explaining both of our ideas. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_humans_have_2D_or_3D_vision

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Profile photo of Wes Miclette Wes Miclette (@weston21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

If you like the whole idea of the universe is a fractal. Another, cool thought to add on to the fractal theory, is that computer programmers use fractals to create cities, landscapes, and other CGI effects. So, is it possible that the universe and everything in it is just a computer simulation…??

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Profile photo of LovinLife LovinLife (@justnotdone) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

It seems very plausible. We as humans can’t comprehend the vastness of our universe. However we can’t comprehend the fact that something else can be looking down on us and be thinking of how small our universe is.

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Profile photo of Mary Mary (@mermaidlove) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

I think about this alllllll the time. What if what we conceive to be our “universe” is nothing more than a single little spec somewhere in a much larger universe. And that universe is a small fraction of an even larger universe and this paradox just continues on and on….

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@mermaidlove, Mary you sound very interesting to talk to and feel we share similar beliefs! i’d really like to keep talking to you about this if you are interested! @justnotdone, not only does it sound plausible but scientifically it some what makes sense! the only way i see infinite and can picture it in my head is a circular pattern! thinking about this endless line is far to complicated for my brain but in a sense just think of it as a circle never ending never starting! now you could pick to points on the circle and say this is where it starts and this is where it’ll end but you never know which lap itll be on! so what if that is all we are! our mind is set what we like to think of as the middle! the perfect size and time zone! but if we were to zoom so far out and come back to the exact spot on the circle we would be the same size same time zone just in a different dimension like thing! its amazing to think about and even if this is completely off its cool to think about! I really want to keep talking about this subject because its amazing! @weston21, @forover100years, @littlemartian,

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Profile photo of conglistedsoldier conglistedsoldier (@mumbojumbo63) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

The way I see it, I can see very small things, but not microscopic things, unless I have a microscope. Then I can see whole different worlds. We can’t see the end of the universe, and it seems to be infinite within some kind of system, but if you’ve seen the charts comparing earth and our sun to other suns and stars, we are very small. After viewing the deepest picture of space ever recorded and imagining billions of these stars and smaller systems within each galaxy, and seeing the practically infinite amount of these galaxies, I would say yes. That is very clear evidence to me that we are microscopic to something. We are way more microscopic to something than any of our microscopes could come close to seeing.

There is a lot of science research taking place now about the smallest particles, energies, and forces unseen. To the universe, we are the curious unseen.

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Profile photo of Kforkonner Kforkonner (@kwelch5528) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@mumbojumbo63, Yes i know we as humans are microscopic in comparison to even just the solar system. The universe is even more mind blowing but what i’m asking is if what if the whole known universe is just a microscopic speck to something much greater

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