Is the universe microscopic to something?
Forever I have thought about the starting and ending of our universe. I also have been thinking about how little we are compared to the universe itself. Now what I’ve really been thinking about is what could make the whole universe as we know it look microscopic? Could something be so far out that it makes our universe look similar to a microscopic one celled organism. I’ve been researching a lot about how similar brain cells look to what we think the universe looks like. Could our universe just be a microscopic cell in another life? or something similar. I guess what I’m asking is what do you think is past the universe, does it fold on itself because its so big in perspective of us humans. Or is the universe tiny?
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@kwelch5528, Imagine a human who has no geographical knowledge and walks around the earth until he can find the end. Current knowledge would tell you well that’s ridiculous because there is no end. He will just keep walking around in a circle. But now imagine an electron inside an atom trying to find the end. It will find no end because the atom is a sphere more or less.Now imagine the universe, not that man may have the capabilities to even travel far enough, but say he did. He will not find the end, because there is no end. Given the first two examples, is it not possible that the universe itself may be a sphere, and all we are, are the inhabiters of an electron, trying to find out how this atom works. Now take another step back on the scale, and you may see that our atom (universe) if just another tiny piece making up this amazing being that is beyond comprehension…or maybe a cat…maybe we live on the back of a flea…on a cat.
@alltoohuman, Finite universe? how are we debating if space ends??? thats impossible! even if it some how ended what is past that? Even if their is nothingness it still keeps going! @crackedout6pack, and I completely agree, its insane to think in different perspectives other than our own. We measure time from the lifetime we see! but what if time was measure in lifetimes of universe! Seeing the universe in a very speed up time is just a billion trillion galaxies spreading apart! but what if you keep going farther out to see more of these universes and even farther out to see clusters of these little balls of universes! what would that look like?
(@kwelch5528) IMAGINE an infinite number of realities. In one, you never opened this copy of New Scientist. In another your parents never met so you weren’t born. In yet another, the Sun did not congeal out of a cold cloud of gas so there was no Earth.
It sounds strange, but multiple realities can explain some of the most baffling aspects of our Universe like how an electron can be in two places at once.
Although this so-called “Many Worlds” interpretation of quantum theory has been mired in controversy for years, it is gaining increasing acceptance. — NewScientist
And about religion
“Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people.”
I hope this explains some things. :))
what if? All we can infer from what we have right now is that it is microscopic to something. the size levels just keep expanding for as far as any on earth can describe. Thats why biomimicry is so important and quantum theory, so we can learn to live in harmony with the universe again.
@kwelch5528, True, we used to think the world was the universe. In the sense of “That’s so meta” just like on Men in Black, a galaxy is a ball in a pouch and inside that galaxy is some dude with a pouch full of galaxies. It may just be an infinite loop, a solar system is an atom, maybe our solar system is actually an atom inside of a rock somewhere on this planet and if we were to grow so that our solar system was the size of an atom, we would find ourselves standing next to that rock, somewhere on Earth.
@alltoohuman, I get what your saying and by all means you could be completely right, but just hear me out. By looking straight ahead at the computer you can see the dimensions of how far away they are, but you can tell how thick something is until you look at it from a different angle. Everything you see right now can be painted on a flat 2d paper. even looking at art you can “see dimension on the paper, you can tell how far away it is because of the shadowing and the positioning. so do we really see in 3dimensions? do we just think we do because we know for a fact we live in a 3dimensional world. right? we can circle something and see all the angles on it and in are head we can visually see what it would look like in 3d, but that doesn’t me we see in 3d. I may be completely wrong but i really like to question other people. Honestly you are very smart and I would like to be able to talk to you more easily. if thats cool.
Here is a quick Wikipedia thing explaining both of our ideas. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_humans_have_2D_or_3D_vision
@kwelch5528, i have thought exactly the same thing so many times. Have you ever imagined a fly’s perspective and compared it to your own?
How many billions of perspectives there are for each species.
Do ants see clouds too? If they do, are these clouds just little convection currents that we dont notice/see..?
Are they even aware that we are another species when we reach down and grab them??
Am i just a cell in one huge being.. With a brain that is just really a nucleus?
It seems very plausible. We as humans can’t comprehend the vastness of our universe. However we can’t comprehend the fact that something else can be looking down on us and be thinking of how small our universe is.
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I think about this alllllll the time. What if what we conceive to be our “universe” is nothing more than a single little spec somewhere in a much larger universe. And that universe is a small fraction of an even larger universe and this paradox just continues on and on….
Science mostly holds that the universe must have limits because infinite size defies their logic and reasoning, but thus far, most evidence suggests that indeed the universe is infinite in, not only size but in time existed. If this is the case then nothing can be so far out there that the univesrse is microscopic, but obviously our galaxy could be, or our known sector of the universe.
Things that look like a small star to us may well be na entire galaxy that dwarves our own.
But another thing when you are talking infinites is there is no distinction between what we would class as small and large, infinite small and infinite large are exactly the same thing, this is why science does not like the theory, because it is not supposed to be possible for something to exist inbetween one thing, or even if it can be described as a “thing” at all.
So we should not exist but here we are so science is pissed off right now.
@mermaidlove, Mary you sound very interesting to talk to and feel we share similar beliefs! i’d really like to keep talking to you about this if you are interested! @justnotdone, not only does it sound plausible but scientifically it some what makes sense! the only way i see infinite and can picture it in my head is a circular pattern! thinking about this endless line is far to complicated for my brain but in a sense just think of it as a circle never ending never starting! now you could pick to points on the circle and say this is where it starts and this is where it’ll end but you never know which lap itll be on! so what if that is all we are! our mind is set what we like to think of as the middle! the perfect size and time zone! but if we were to zoom so far out and come back to the exact spot on the circle we would be the same size same time zone just in a different dimension like thing! its amazing to think about and even if this is completely off its cool to think about! I really want to keep talking about this subject because its amazing! @weston21, @forover100years, @littlemartian,
the universe is so confusing. now that we have that out of the way, you have seen the pictures with the similarities between cells and our universe. could it be possible that they are connected? and to those of you who say the universe is infinite, how do you know? are you telling me you know exactly what the universe is. its all just theories.
@alexishungry, oh why did my old account have to be deleted (accidentally by my little nephew)?
I mentioned this before: the evidence suggests that the universe isn’t a fractal. As for the confusion over a infinite vs. finite universe, we simply don’t know what’s beyond the observable universe.
The way I see it, I can see very small things, but not microscopic things, unless I have a microscope. Then I can see whole different worlds. We can’t see the end of the universe, and it seems to be infinite within some kind of system, but if you’ve seen the charts comparing earth and our sun to other suns and stars, we are very small. After viewing the deepest picture of space ever recorded and imagining billions of these stars and smaller systems within each galaxy, and seeing the practically infinite amount of these galaxies, I would say yes. That is very clear evidence to me that we are microscopic to something. We are way more microscopic to something than any of our microscopes could come close to seeing.
There is a lot of science research taking place now about the smallest particles, energies, and forces unseen. To the universe, we are the curious unseen.
@mumbojumbo63, Yes i know we as humans are microscopic in comparison to even just the solar system. The universe is even more mind blowing but what i’m asking is if what if the whole known universe is just a microscopic speck to something much greater
@trek79, well just because we think the universe is big doesn’t mean it’s the biggest thing ever! we use to think that our galaxy was the biggest thing. Now we realize that its no where near big compared to universe! so what makes the universe small? as of now we don’t know but doesn’t mean we wont find out!
How can you think something just ends? I really am just going of what I know now of space which isn’t very much. But we live in a 3 dimensional world which sadly we only see in 2 dimensional. But with this comes the fact that we can go outward in any directions! I just can’t see space just ending. even if this wall that all the sudden ending all that we live in, what is after that? @alltoohuman