Is there something to fear beyond this reality?
I mean are demons and ghosts just our imaginations or hallucination or is there some truth in haunting stories? Or is a nightmare plain bullshit of your weird imagination at all, or is it something your subconscious is trying to tell you about the world?
I came to this question because when i excessively meditated a time ago, i came to this darker side of my subconscious where all kinds of weird and scary images were of insanity and scary creatures. Now I REALLY DON”T KNOW if that is something that is there for real or if it is just my insane imagination that is trying to scare me for NO REASON or is there any reason why my subconscious would do that?
I know people meditate and see lots of happy thoughts and peaceful places, so i don’t know how and why i felt this scary things…or is it because i subconsciously somewhere believe it really exists??? but i dont know but i do fear the idea of scary things beyond reality that exist.
Also i once heard a teacher telling me i should never use an ouijaboard or something to call upon the dead (not that i wanted to or anything:o), because it is real, and my driver instructor told me she once saw this black ghost upon the walls……….
How real are the scary things beyond this reality? And are they something to be scared about?
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@heartbeat, I don’t believe in ghosts, except maybe in some death echo sense, but not as concious beings. I do believe in spirits, rather sentient energy beings that have never been human. These are the architects of the universe, well from the energy stage onward, and we may consider some of them as malevolent while others are benevolent, but on their level their is no disticntion of such scales of morality. They each do the best they can at what they are good at without any judgementality toward each others strengths and weakness’, there is no such war.
Just don’t invite them into your life, they all do what they want, good or bad, they are not ours to command and the only ones interested in communicating are the ones that want to screw with us.
I have no idea whether I believe these things exist. In a way I like to believe the exist, because sometimes the belief gives me more hope. I’m not sure if that makes sense, but I just like to have the feeling that we are not alone, and I like to have the feeling that loved ones that have passed are still very close to me. I fear people and their motives/ capabilities more than I fear demons or otherworldly creatures though.
I believe that dreams (for me anyway) are a way of our subconscious trying to tell us something. I don’t think it is trying to tell us something about the world at large, but more something about what we feel about a situation/ person/ place in our life. I just think that when we have a particularlu troubling time in our lives, something that we really struggle with, our dreams have a way of communicating what we feel we should do. I think that we all KNOW deep down what to do in certain situations, however the external world clouds our thinking, feeling, and instincts. I think dreams are our subconscious communicating with us. For me, when I am in a bad situation, my dreams often become really abstract and wierd and frightening at times. However, I try to decipher them and put them into context and I personally find it helps me.
@heartbeat, Yes and no. Not Physically of course. I don’t think even biblical authors believed in demons. But they are symbolic of the fear, the suffering and the “sins” within ourselves. Everybody has demons.
I don’t believe ouijaboards are real. In fact Ouija is a brand name, it was never intended to contact the dead but to access the players subconcious. I think it is all belief. I saw on the TV, don’t know how much truth is in it, that an experiment was carried out where the players in a lighted room played ouija board and they all claimed they were contacting the dead when coherent messages were spelt out. Then the room was darkened and observed under Night vision and no coherent messages were spelt out.
I know that from my own dreams, there’s always something scary lurking in the corners. Once I started to learn to lucid dream, I got better at accepting and analyzing why I was seeing scary things, and coming to terms with them. As for if they REALLY exist? I have no idea. I can’t prove or disprove them either way. All I can do is help you deal effectively with them.
There are probably alot of different takes on your situation and what this is about, but i’ll try to help out as best as i can.
First, Imagination can be considered a level of reality. just because it doesnt exist in my range of current consciousness does not mean its not potentially there for all of us.
What would scare me in your situation would be the belief that it is real, and can in some way harm me, or the lack of belief that it cannot. What you believe becomes true to you. In other words, you have the power to create your own heaven or hell.
Why this might be happening to you is a subconscious fear of some kind, and since you are obviously not aware of what this fear is about, your brain conjurs up images to “make sense of the feeling of fear.”
Hope this helps a little :)
@heartbeat, Like @danfontaine said fear is the only fear there is in this world. How can anybody prove or disprove what is ‘real’ in life/this universe. You’ll never know until you die, and maybe not even then. So, I just don’t wrestle with these thoughts. It puts my mind in loops which, even with as much thinking and research as possible, I’ll never fully comprehend in this life time. Instead, I’ve come to terms with not fearing the unknown, and just being thankful/appreciative for this moment in which I’m still here.
On another note, I have seen 3, heard 1, and been locked in a room by 1, ghosts/spirits in my life. Each was as real to me as the table sitting in front of me. I actually just saw one recently when I was sleeping at my parents 150 year old house the other night. The thing is, ghosts and all these other things don’t necessarily have to be scary, thus I wasn’t fearful when I saw it. Maybe try not being fearful (I know its the hardest thing in the world) next time you are taken to these places through meditation and you may find an answer or learn something. Interesting post!
Not to stay that I don’t have fear but iv never met any part of me that would have to be other worldly or any weird demon shit is real.Now I do have one experience that relates. When i was younger I tried to summon demons or devils what ever you want to call them, for two days i locked my self in a room. Did the whole things blood pentagrams Latin speeches to summon the dead. On the last day I feel asleep and in my dream met a “demon” he looked at me and said why have you summoned me child. I looked up with out any emotion and told him i why ( personal reasons).Any ways he responded how arrogant are you to think that something on a higher plane of existence would want a human, then I woke up.Kinda made me think in the scheme of things humans really get to try to pursue what they want for a limited time then die.What happens to them in this life good or bad most likely isn’t from some weird flying god in the sky or some demons watching over you to try to torture you.Its just the rules of the universe and interactions with other life forms including your self. Which if you don’t know your self and you stumble upon what i like to call missing fragments its kinda best to treat them like a little kid smile at them and accept them as a part of you besides all the best people are messed up at least in my book.