Living in the wild, or living in my millionaire grandpa's house?

2 years, 3 months ago

I want to live a life of transcendence and detachment, but my grandpa isn’t going to live forever, and he told me that when he dies, i’m going to inherit his fortune, and his beautiful house. I want no part of American society, but I want a family, and a wife… I experienced the wild and studied survival for around 4 years, so i’m capable of surviving on all 7 continent (excluding Antarctica). After my first taste of the wild, I can’t imagine NOT living there… I don’t want a career, or a predictable life… I want inner peace and understanding… I know my wishes contradict themselves, and i’m making no sense, so i’ll paraphrase:
Live nomadically in a beautiful foreign country? or live an unfulfilled life with a wife and family?

The only thing I would like to do is be a writer, and write a novel about my adventures, experiences with other cultures, and philosophical views.

December 9, 2012 at 7:14 pm

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Profile photo of beer brains beer brains (@manweiser13) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, why not do both?

go out and live how you want to live, and when you come back you’ll have that inheritance to basically settle anywhere you’d like. this will give you a chance to experience what you would like to, then settle down and share your experiences with others.

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Profile photo of Joe Joe (@bluescream) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

The first thing you need to ask yourself is, Is there a way in which you can have both co-exist. In your particular case finding a wife with the same views as you willing to take on the same lifestyle. That may lead to you staying in your grandpas house for the time being, working on your writing skills, planning where you would like to travel specifically, then wait for the right opportunities to expand themselves in front of you. The key is to not get so caught up on the minute details of it, but rather set the frameworks for what you want and let the rest flow. I hope this helps your decision, I can partially relate to you because I am at a similar crossroads in my life.

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Profile photo of E.C.F. Doyle E.C.F. Doyle (@chekovchameleon) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, what @manweiser13 said is what I was going to say. If you want to write about your adventures go have ‘em, and write the whole time on them, keep a journal, write about the characters you meet when you meet them. Then when you come back you’ll have a wealth of experience and honed writing skills. Believe it or not my own ambitions are more or less the same, next year I’m going what I call tramping ( just travelling about with no particular destination in mind and sleeping out in the wild). I’m just going to take off in definitely. I’m also a writer. But I don’t have a mansion to come back to ( you lucky bastard :P) so you my friend have no excuse, make it happen.

p.s. If you want to be a writer you already are, all you have to do is write.

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, if you’re going to live in the wild, take the time to do it right, really plan stuff out, master the lay of the land, learn what’s good to eat and what’s deadly, master your wilderness survival skills.

I know I’m going to get a lot of flak for this, but be smart about it – don’t be like that McCandless guy. I’m sorry, but I read that book in freshman year of college and his not being smart about it cost him his life, to me, he came off as a willful idiot, that he ultimately died for nothing. Play it smart and live to play it another day!

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@bluescream, thank you so much, I can’t believe I didn’t think of that lol

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@chekovchameleon, thank you so much for your advice! i’ll actually have a clear mind again :D

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@theskafish, lol thanks for the advice, and I won’t be another Christopher Mccandless! lol

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Profile photo of Filip Filip M (@filipek) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, “After my first taste of the wild, I can’t imagine NOT living there”

I mean, you give your own answer, why make things more complicated than that? Do what you want, and it seems you do not want anything else than living in the wild. GO FOR IT, live your dreams, forget about what society tells you to do!

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Profile photo of Prittii Prittii (@prittii) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15,

Well, I’m sorry to say, but you are being selfish and not making any good from the effort your grandparents done for you to have a good life and being able to experience things other people don’t have chance to.

This is unfortunately very common in rich societies: everybody wants to be artist or only live a detached spiritual life!!! (only thinking about the self… so selfish!)

Reason? You never had the experience of knowing how is life without money!

My family used to be very poor! My mom had to work as a maid and live in the slum when she first moved to Sao Paulo, because her parents are farmers and had too many kids. My dad doesn’t like Christmas! His memory of Christmas was seeing everybody getting a present, but Santa forgetting about him.

So my parents worked their whole life to provide to me! And although I had everything… it wasn’t abundant… I didn’t have special holidays when I was a child… I was only going to the beach 2 hrs away from my house! My mom was buying me clothes 3 times in the year!

I asked my mom to put me in a piano course, but my family had no money to pay me extra education. I do have a good education because I studied a lot and I got in a special government school that has 500 people applying for each spot.

I wouldn’t change my life for anyone else! Just because I’m so glad I have the experience of knowing how is life without money… I have a huge capacity to go for what I want and to control myself in buying things and to save money (because that’s what I had to do when I was in high school: save from my lunch money to buy clothes or CD’s!)

My view about money it’s completely different from yours. When someone has the ambition to work really hard to provide to the family and in consequence, this person also provides a service to the society. Your grandfather probably did a lot of good to the society and that’s why he is a millionaire… But he failed in transmitting to his family his own values! Why to keep this line of service and this standard of living.

So now you want to through everything in the trash and just work for yourself… Just think about yourself… or maybe also about a someone who makes you happy!!!

Yes, so it’s better you survive in a jungle and not in the society.

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Profile photo of Kris Kris (@arctic) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, I think you have the answer. Follow your hearth. If you are serious about living a nomadic life in the wild, then I think you should completely let go of your grandpa’s fortune. Make some arrangements, trust fund, donation or whatever, so that your inheritance will be put to some good use in this world. Educate kids, improve health, you figure it out. But make it so that you can never benefit from it yourself.

If you are not willing to make the commitment and completely let go of the fortune, then go back to your plan for living a nomadic lifestyle and revaluate.

Disagree with those you say you should stay in the house and plan your travels. Don’t plan, just go. Also, if you want to be a writer, then write. I must also say, I appreciated @Prittii‘s input very much. A very good perspective there.

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Profile photo of R.Steve Hardy R.Steve Hardy (@rstevehardy) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

Its your life.Live it the way you want.Tell your wife your self centered ideas,give her the house and money,and run off in the woods.ID-10-T

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Profile photo of ELI var namnet ELI var namnet (@manimal) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

Accept the house, go on adventures in the wild every now and then, bring your future wife and kids, write about it. Get home to the house, publish your writings on your computer.

Why choose when you can have both?

And needless to say, if you go into the wild and omit the other things you want, you will get equally bored by that eventually. You won’t feel fulfilled if you don’t have the family you want as well as the adventures.

Balance. Wholeness.
Why choose when you can have both?

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@prittii, lol pritti, I completely understand your point of view. It may seem like I’m selfish, or affluent, but i’m not. I have lived in a trailer all of my life, and I experienced 2 weeks of my life homeless. I should have told you this beforehand, but I forgot to include that vital detail. Thank you for your criticism though, even if it was meant to harm me, because you taught me about how selfish people can be, and you told me alot about your life.

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@rstevehardy, thank you, i’m so self-centered.

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Profile photo of Lover Of Understanding Lover Of Understanding (@professorx15) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@manimal, thank you. it may seem like im selfish, but I really dislike what money does to people. The Buddha escaped wealth and prosperity for spiritual enlightenment, and I was going to do the same, until the helpful logic of assholes and kind-hearted people.

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

Your life is something you should be selfish about. I completely reject the idea that anyone should live the way another person wants them to. YOU are the one that has to live inside your head and carry out your life, not anyone else! Sometimes I am amazed at how nonchalantly people throw their lives away. I work with multiple people working themselves to exhaustion so they can study a subject they don’t like, simply because it’s what their mom wants them to have a career in. I say fuck that. Do what you want.

And I second manimal, why choose one or the other when you can have both? In fact if you are inheriting a fortune does that not give you even more freedom to do the wilderness thing?

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Profile photo of Joe Joe (@bluescream) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, You knew it all along, you just needed me to help remind you along your journey, which is why you and I alike are here on this site.

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Profile photo of Phil Phil (@urbanuncia) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, Wild. Wild wild wild!! Go off and experience the world before you get tied down! Without a doubt, go off into the wild!

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Profile photo of Prittii Prittii (@prittii) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15, It doesn’t save you when you lived in a trailer park for two weeks homeless, when you knew you could just go back to your grandpa’s house anytime.

First of all, I DO NOT want to harm you. It’s just a wake up call!

The service you give to the society doesn’t have to be something you don’t like, but not giving any service will make you sad someday. When you choose to simply do nothing, everyone looks down on you.

Do you deserve to be looked down?

Yes!

If there are science, gastronomy, airplanes, books, music, cinema, internet and so many amazing things, it’s because there are people working and giving their life and their blood for it! Imagine if the whole world thought like you (and some other members here)? We would still be cave men. You know, the men of neanderthal doesn’t exist anymore, because they were not as good living in society as the homo sapiens.

You can choose if you like to live in the wild, for example, studying the science of plants or insects, studying the weather, Amerindian culture, surviving skills… getting most knowledge about it, spreading this knowledge with books, websites, videos, oral dissertations, etc.

There are nothing more beautiful than the sacrifice of work! This is what makes one person different from the other. This is what shows who you are in this planet. How much will you give from yourself to the society? How strong and good will you be for doing things that are not for you, instead for others? In result you get money as reward… so then you can give good education and a good life for your children. You can have amazing holidays and fun time with your wife.

Actually, people that don’t do much, have a high tendency for getting into depression. That’s because since generations work belongs to our homo sapiens nature! While you are doing the job it might sometimes feel unpleasant, but in your mind you are fulfilling many human necessities, such as accomplishing tasks, sociability, earning income, independence, etc. The boredom of doing whatever you want, at some point make you think too much… you feel useless, weak, stupid… you get slowly into suicidal state. Doesn’t matter if you are just constantly spending your time in fun, rich places… you will still think low about yourself!

So, I hope I made sense of it all! Finding a job that fits into what you are curious about, what you like to do, will make you much more satisfied in life, than just doing nothing and taking advantage of your grandpa’s fortune. Of course jobs are not pleasant all the time no matter how much you are interested in it’s theme… even more once they become obligation, but the pride you will feel, the peace of mind, and the respect you will earn from others are worth the sacrifice!

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@professorx15,

Do want you want.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@prittii,

“Do you deserve to be looked down?

Yes!”

Wow.

And why would I give two shits if someone would looks down on me?

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Profile photo of Prittii Prittii (@prittii) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@livelifeloving, what about if this someone is your parents, your child, your friends or your partner?

I meant everyone.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@prittii,

If your parents look down on you, they brought you up wrong.

I don’t have a child

If you friends look down on you, they are not your friends.

If your partner looks down on you, you’re not meant for each other. (monogamy doesn’t exist anyway)

And not a single fuck was given about those that look down on me.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 3 months ago ago

@prittii, Cool it with the criticism… He doesn’t have a responsibility to society, if he wants to go live in the wild that’s a completely fine way to go. He is fortunate that his grandfather has left something behind for him, but that doesn’t define what he’s supposed to do with his life. Who gives a fuck if you grew up poor or rich, if he was born homeless and decided to venture out into the jungle would that make him a better person than his current situation? No, he’s just following what makes him happy.

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