Living in the wild, or living in my millionaire grandpa's house?
I want to live a life of transcendence and detachment, but my grandpa isn’t going to live forever, and he told me that when he dies, i’m going to inherit his fortune, and his beautiful house. I want no part of American society, but I want a family, and a wife… I experienced the wild and studied survival for around 4 years, so i’m capable of surviving on all 7 continent (excluding Antarctica). After my first taste of the wild, I can’t imagine NOT living there… I don’t want a career, or a predictable life… I want inner peace and understanding… I know my wishes contradict themselves, and i’m making no sense, so i’ll paraphrase:
Live nomadically in a beautiful foreign country? or live an unfulfilled life with a wife and family?
The only thing I would like to do is be a writer, and write a novel about my adventures, experiences with other cultures, and philosophical views.
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I’m sorry if you think my reply is harsh and I’m bumming people with aggression. Actually I’m just giving a reply to the same level people give to me.
I complimented Seti for trying to do a more unique and interesting job, and instead of being happy, he says I’m judgmental. The meaning of unique according to the dictionary:
“Being the only one of its kind; unlike anything else: “the situation was unique in modern politics”; “original and unique designs”.”
So what is unique here? Investment banks or studying shamans?
And interesting is surely subjective… so sorry if I’m the only one that thinks investment banks are not interesting.
Anyway, my point is what @godslight, wrote… he seems to be one mature person here. Unless what you do affects society positively, you won’t get any good from it.
I wonder if all these people here saying to this guy: “yea, go live in the wild, do what you want”, would say that to their parents, to their children, to their best friend. I’m sure they wouldn’t! Nobody wants to have a close friend living in the wild, between wild animals, with the risk to get a sickness, without growing any forward in life…
@prittii, I’ve read a good bit of this feed and it seems like a good amount of what you value, despite living in poverty, is materialistic. Why is learning about the self and the spirituality that follows a bad thing. You talk about the beauty of restaurants and built-up parks or whatever like without these things humans couldn’t be happy. Working as a part of society can be fulfilling, but we as humans are a part of and are meant to interact closely with nature. So if this guy decides that he’d rather leave a consumption and production based society that is materialistically selfish to go and be a part of that beautiful balance between man nature and other living things, who are you to judge him for it?
@professorx15, what @manweiser13 said is what I was going to say. If you want to write about your adventures go have ‘em, and write the whole time on them, keep a journal, write about the characters you meet when you meet them. Then when you come back you’ll have a wealth of experience and honed writing skills. Believe it or not my own ambitions are more or less the same, next year I’m going what I call tramping ( just travelling about with no particular destination in mind and sleeping out in the wild). I’m just going to take off in definitely. I’m also a writer. But I don’t have a mansion to come back to ( you lucky bastard :P) so you my friend have no excuse, make it happen.
p.s. If you want to be a writer you already are, all you have to do is write.
And so, you conclude that you are right, while really, you haven’t got the slightest idea of what goes on in me.
Would you believe me (the best source for knowing what goes on in me) if your interpretation is wrong and that I wasn’t ironic?
You assume and assume and assume, doesn’t it tire you?
“You are insulting by telling the author is lazy and selfish, which is also judgmental.”
No… My approach is realistic and direct.
He is someone that doesn’t want to think about any other person in the world. Wants to live alone, by himself in the wild… and maybe take advantage of his grandpa’s house in the future. Meaning of the word selfish by dictionary:
(of a person, action, or motive) Lacking consideration for others; concerned chiefly with one’s own personal profit or pleasure.
So you are asking me to be a hypocrite and write everything I think in a “nicer” way… to not sound so harsh, because the word “selfish” sound so negative and offensive?
I think if a person wants to get beautiful words, you have to do beautiful acts.
@professorx15, if you’re going to live in the wild, take the time to do it right, really plan stuff out, master the lay of the land, learn what’s good to eat and what’s deadly, master your wilderness survival skills.
I know I’m going to get a lot of flak for this, but be smart about it – don’t be like that McCandless guy. I’m sorry, but I read that book in freshman year of college and his not being smart about it cost him his life, to me, he came off as a willful idiot, that he ultimately died for nothing. Play it smart and live to play it another day!
@livelifeloving, counting with the fact that I haven’t done a compliment, I interpreted that you were being ironic.
I really don’t know much of what goes on with you. How could I through a forum?
So I just judge what you say… not your person.
@seti, Ok. I’ve got your point. I just had enough of this argument. I think I already made clear the way I think… Everybody else can think different.
My opinion doesn’t change, yours also… So why keep arguing?
@professorx15, I see that I cannot argue with you. We have very different views to life… at the same time we have the same. Our ways approach is different.
You are a dreamer. I am also a dreamer.
Then the difference comes: I believe in sacrifices, because I’m Christian and in my religion we do not believe in self-existence, like in Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism, etc: We believe material is necessary, giving our blood and sweat for it is sacred and sharing is divine.
Once you add to the conversations these stuff about ego, meditation, I notice its not worth of my time. I don’t believe in stuff create by societies that are far more backwards than the society where I live…
I do not think I have to meditate to empty my mind, instead I think I have to fulfill my mind with beautiful thoughts.
I do not think I have to get rid of my “ego” to be happy… Ego is part of a human mind… actually the reason why we are alive. Search: Id, Ego and Superego in google.
Anyway, I’m tired of this argument… it goes in circles. I wish you happiness in your decisions. Just remember: what we plant today, grows tomorrow: it’s no personal view, just nature!
@prittii, Because life is not about doing what the fuck we want! If you do that, you will end up really sad!”
I’m sorry but that is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. We aren’t talking about eating a burger we are talking about a lifestyle choice. You are interpreting his choice as sitting in the woods eating burgers for the rest of his life. No, he will make his choice then live however he WANTS in order to be happy. Maybe it will work out or maybe not we can’t predict these things, life is long and fluid.
You’re basing how other people find fulfillment on your own needs.
@prittii, What you wrote about my career choice was “A job that is by far more unique and interesting than the second.”
If you look at the order of what I wrote, IBing came first, living with shaman came second.
Seems like you may have gotten it backwards, no?
I wonder if all these people here saying to this guy: “yea, go live in the wild, do what you want”, would say that to their parents, to their children, to their best friend.
Pritti – you are entitled to you opinion, and you seem to be intelligent, but why do you feel the need to force your way of life on other people? For you living in the wild would not be a good choice, but why do you think what you think is right and what other people think is wrong?
I think living in the wild is noble, and if anyone in my family or friends wanted tot do it I would support it. People who live in the wild develop survival skills that can be taught to others – their is an entire culture around Vision Quests where people live in the wild for short periods of time and survive on their own, but many people do it for longer periods. They enjoy it, and get something out of it, then pass on their knowlede to others.
Shaman or people who are shamanic initiates go into the wild and live for long periods of time, they live in nature alone and learn things that make them wise. The author has said he wants to write. Why not give him the time to figure it out. Perhaps he will be a wise writer and help millions? Human nature is one where people want to do service at some point, I think the author will have a lot to give. But, his path is guiding him in a direction to do something on his own, for now. I see nothing wrong BTW with him going back and accepting his inheritance. It’s his to have and do with as he pleases. What he wil do with it we don’t know, and can’t guess or assume.
I guess in the end I’m a lover of freedom of choice and a persons right to do with their life as they please. Equally I’m not a fan of totalitarian thought which imposes it’s ways on others – as if there was not a different way.
So I still say follow what Ralph Waldo Emerson said:
“Do not go where the path may lead, go instead where there is no path and leave a trail.”
@livelifeloving, You have a really immature view of life.
How is it to bring up a child right? Does it exist?
How come someone that grew up with you and was always there for you, is not your friend just because this person disagrees and thinks you are crazy, because want to be lazy and decide just to live in a forest by yourself?
@professorx15, It seems like you’ve been given the perfect opportunity to completely chase your dreams, without the fear of failure. Put all that money in a bank, and do whatever you want to, knowing that if things don’t work out you always have that money to fall back on.
I suppose I have to agree with you Pritti, that my situation an that of the guy who created this post is different in that I am not a millionaire, not even close. I did work and did save, something I think you would appreciate based on our prior comments like “There are nothing more beautiful than the sacrifice of work!” That being said, I do believe my situation on another level is quite similar to the author of this post who starts off by stating that “I want to live a life of transcendence and detachment”. Selling everything you own, moving to another country and living with shaman is quite the transcendent experience – and I would say living as I do is indeed far detached from my society’s norms….
I also find your comments regarding my choices rather judgmental. Who are you to say that my choice to take up filmmaking and the study of shamanism is less unique and interesting then my previous job in Investment Banking? Your comments are rather opinion based, don’t you think?
I also disagree that he author is being selfish. He has a right as a human being on this planet to do as he chooses. And if living in the wild makes him happy then so be it. Maybe his experience in the wild will lead to something great in the long run. i can tell you that many of the shaman I work with lived in the wild for many years, and now their wisdom and healing powers help many around them. But, they never would have acquired this wisdom without their years living on their own.
BTW – you stated “If you always in your life just do what makes you happy, you will be pretty unhappy in the end!”, I disagree, if you are always making yourself happy, you will continue to be happy.
And, finally – It is not true that “Actually, people that don’t do much, have a high tendency for getting into depression.” It is quite the opposite, most people who are on depression or anxiety medication are working people – they have crappy, low paying jobs, bills and stress caused by their work. Companies are in business to make their shareholders money, not make their employees happy. It ist he long unrewarding work hours, stressful commutes and lousy working conditions that lead most people to depression.
I was lying on the diving board of a swimming pool belonging to some ridiculously rich chick this weekend (I was paid to take pictures of her party but was invited to stay and party with them in this ridiculous mansion) and at about 2am they cranked the song below (Frank Ocean – Super Rich Kids) and I laughed to myself as I was lying there because I realised how much fun I was having but that living in that environment would absolutely sabotage me and cause me to become stagnant. It’s fun to drop in on that life but I would never want to become it. I hope that provides a little insight.
@seti, Well, all I can say is good luck! If your documentary doesn’t sell, you won’t be so pleased about your choice.
I bet you like to go to a restaurant and have a waiter serving your food… have good food cooked for you… have a beautiful environment designed to please you… cleaned up by someone… But you think doing the jobs all these other people did is waste of their life, because people should do only what pleases them. I’m sure it’s not fun to stay in a kitchen cooking for other people… but the chef is paying his part in society and he gets in other ways.
Actually these people are much more important, than someone that just wants to please the self and live life for yourself. Thanks God, not the whole world is like you! Otherwise nobody would be able to have amazing experiences of going to a restaurant, traveling, visiting a beautiful park with a nice garden, etc.