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The_truth_is_
(@sirensetmefree) 10 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1

@nightowl,

Kind of, but I find it difficult to separate the two. It sounds to me like you’re trying to differentiate between “I love hammers!” and “I love being able to smash things with hammers!” and I can see the differences, but would say they are negligible, or at least boil down to nothing really.

But I guess that’s a difference in the importance of diction.

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1

@sirensetmefree, yeah I gotcha. Good secondary clarification, hahah.

For me there’s difference between discussing fallacies and discussing hammers as you presented that makes it quite less than negligible… hammers are not errors of the mind. I’m quite glad there are hammers in the world, but the world could do with much less (or no!) error of this sort.

LOL!

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The_truth_is_
(@sirensetmefree) 10 months, 2 weeks ago ago

@nightowl, I second that motion! Let’s get rid of errors.

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 2 weeks ago ago 1

Yesyesyes! @Martijn oh-so-kindly bolded the fallacy categories for us on my request. Now it’s >9000 times easier to find them and generally navigate the post!

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 2 weeks ago ago

Bump for near-constant relevance

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Clare
(@mowgli1) 10 months, 1 week ago ago 1

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/

This is a free poster showing logical fallacies it’s really cool to look at. i have it hanging up in my room! :)

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Ray Butler
(@trek79) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

So are we allowed to have opinions, or will you just refer us to the fallicy list?

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@trek79, opinions aren’t fallacies. If you read the list you won’t find anything that blurs the line. If you express in the form of an opinion, then you’re not claiming a fact of something that isn’t assuredly so.

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Ray Butler
(@trek79) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@nightowl, It got a bit long, I have a short attention span, read about 1/3rd. But opinions are all I ever give. I would like scientists, politicians and the media to obey it, but as far as a site where people just basically have interesting conversations, I wouldn’t hold it as a rule. But yeah, for people to be a little clearer on the possition that it is an opinion would be nice, but that is an ideal that I don’t think is nessecary because I only ever take anything anyone on here says as opinion. That is because I don’t research their references, short attention span remember :)

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@trek79, indeed, opinions are all you ever give. I’ve never seen you commit a fallacy or say anything disagreeable, whether it’s my perspective or not. Thank you sir.

Also. I quote you very often – “People think the problem is huge so the answer must be radical; they are just allowing their frustrations to over-ride vision.”
In some ways you are a fallacy-crusher without intent or realization.

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Ray Butler
(@trek79) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@nightowl, I wouldn’t say I’m completely innocent but I try.

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Ray Butler
(@trek79) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@nightowl, This original post, did you find this somewhere or is this a personal essay? The link you provided is to a wiki on dialect, is it there somewhere? Just my dad is interested in it because he takes politics very seriously.

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@trek79, I’ve seen them in several places. Philosophy websites and forums mostly.
Wherever it comes from, it doesn’t belong to any source, but the world. The source would not matter as long as these are correct.
The link Clare posted above has many of them, most of the ones that are necessary (whereas this post has just about all of them, and is quite a hefty list) http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/
The one I copied-pasted here is from a forums, but it also was brought there and only slightly modified from elsewhere online.
This isn’t from the forums, as I won’t post that, but this is the first one I found long ago. http://commfaculty.fullerton.edu/rgass/fallacy3211.htm

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Ray Butler
(@trek79) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@nightowl, Thanks, that’s good stuff.

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

@mercurial, fortunately (oh so very) we’re not bound by your “shoulds” and can do as we please

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

Whatever, troll.

Leave.

Just like that other thread, I will not reply to you again here.

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Nightowl
(@nightowl) 10 months, 1 week ago ago

Identifying you a troll isn’t ad hominem since you’re a troll. I even moderators agree. You troll all-around. Your post before the last was a sarcastic and attacking troll post and nothing else.
Bicker with him all you want, this is my last post towards you, not just in this thread but ever.

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