Looking for quality kick drum samples.
Anybody know where I can find some quality kicks for Hip-Hop/EDM?
@iPrentice, Here’s Sounds in HD set I just uploaded :) http://www.mediafire.com/download/txd1aia6f7f7k71/Sounds_in_HD_Complete.rar
@stevenv Sweet man! Much appreciated. Thank you!
@iPrentice, Of course, have fun!
Dude the samples out there are all the same. It’s all about HOW YOU USE them.
How to kick:
Make sure the kick has its place in the mix. You can high-pass everything but the kick and the bass around 100hz, and you should make a notch in the bass for the kick’s main body. Cut out unnecessary sub frequencies.
For classic hip hop kicks, just make it muffled. Use a bit of dusty distortion and a low-cut filter, and cut the subs out.
Kicks are ridiculously easy.
There is no magic setting which works for every track, it’s ALL ABOUT SHAPING THE SOUND.
@manimal, Thanks for the advice man. Will definitely work on those things. Any compressors you recommend?
@iPrentice, Different ones are good for different things. I don’t know many good free/cheap ones though, but I know that they do exist. Lots of em.
Depending on the DAW you use, there could already be a great one built into it. Live has a few good ones, and FL has the great FL compressor, Logic has some really good compression.
Personally I like the Waves compressors, especially the SSL, The LinMB and the Vintage compressor. Fabfilter Pro-C is the one I recommend though, because it’s extremely versatile and has lots of different settings.
Then theres TheGlue, which may or may not be free. It’s also built into the recent versions of Live.
But the freeware and native ones are good too these days. As long as it does its job.
Look, using pre-processed samples is very limiting, and they’re often very hard to fit into a mix. Most of the time they aren’t very usable, they’re just made to sound good on their own so people will want to buy the pack. Those kinds of samples rarely sit good in a mix.
Most producers only use a handful of samples. Basic ones. 808, 909, some lo-fi/break samples, and a few proper acoustic samples. Then they shape and layer them in various ways.
That’s how the pros do it.
Glitzy sample packs are just ways to make money. And sadly, people often confuse that kind of stuff for professionalism and start trying to mimic it, so the non-commercial samples sound the same.
@iPrentice, Also, if you hear a kick (or other sound) you really like in a track, see if you can sample it. That way, you’ll get kicks that sound just the way you want.
A lot of EDM tracks have simple drum tracks at the start and/or end of the song to make DJing easier. That also makes it easy to snag a sample.
Almost all tracks have the kick in mono, so if you get rid of the stereo content (by phase inversion) you can snag some samples that would otherwise be masked by other stuff.
@manimal, Thanks a ton man. Really appreciate the depth of your answer. You seem to be very knowledgable. I take it you make your own music. Do you have a website where I can check out your stuff?
@iPrentice, No problem, I’m glad you like it.
Yeah I’m a musician, I have an unhealthy obsession with music haha. You can check out my mixed EDM project here: https://soundcloud.com/psychophanth/
But the kicks in those tracks aren’t sampled, I synthesized them from scratch. Actually, almost everything in those tracks is made from scratch. That’s the whole idea of the project, sound design practice.
@manimal, Really like your stuff man! Production is awesome. I’ve been stuck for a long time on my mixing and mastering skills. I could use a few pointers if you wanna check out some of my tracks. soundcloud.com/michael_prentice
@manimal, What if you want the bass drum to be between 70 and 80Hz? What if you don’t want the kick to sound like a ‘boom’? What if you hate that?
@iPrentice, Tracks checked out, nice tunes. I’ll send some feedback in a pm.
@beyond, Well, I was just giving general pointers in the context of the genre range.
@manimal, mind-numblingly benign tracks. Wouldn’t believe a word of it coming from a man who makes generic crap like you. Cooky cutter bullshit. I don’t know what coerced you to attempt making EDM, but stop. You’re embarrassing me.
@hybridext, Why don’t you share some of your work instead of talking about degrees? Because you seem desperate for attention like the arrogant musicians that don’t know how to promote themselves in a better way, just because they put their ego before their music. My condolences if that’s the case.
@manimal, Thanks man!
@hybridext, Whatever, haters gonna hate.
I make some generic stuff, but not much. Also, it’s dance music, like all forms of dance music the lines are quite distinct.
You have a ‘phd’ eh? Wow, not even a real phd but some quotation mark shit. Wow man, big creds… Not even a real phd means a shit.
Go back home under the bridge…
@manimal, Your track “Juice” sounds kinda skrilly
@manimal, @beyond, Sasho, I think you’re getting music confused with business, dear. And ‘Manimal’, there’s a reason I put it in quotation marks. It is equivalent to a PHD. I am an accomplice in Jazz music. I’ve also produced the David Markey band. I have done my grades and I don’t need to be vindicated by some college frat boy who’s stuck some loops together on Ableton. And please, enough with the ‘haters’ malarky. It’s just an excuse to say “I don’t like people having different opinions”
I’m sorry, how informal of me. When’s your next track going to ‘drop’? :)
@hybridext, Not only are you using the “fancy words” wrong, but you’re also misspelling… rhetorical backfiring.
Oh, I can assure you that thing is not equivalent to a PhD. If it’s not a PhD, it’s not a PhD. End of story.
I haven’t been to college, never been in a frat, haven’t used loops in the last 7 years, and the only time I use Ableton products is when I perform live.
I’m not planning any ‘drops’ in the near future. I’m busy writing songs with my prog band, oh and I’m also writing an overture.
Haters gonna hate when I say haters gonna hate.
@manimal, Well I’m dreadfully sorry, with English not being my native language and all. I was born in Beirut.
And oh I’m sorry, I meant to say Massive presets, pardon me.
If you attempt to seduce me with your nonchalance then you’ve got another thing coming. All I see is a little ant, squirming and screaming to the world “I am big goddamnit”. Thinking of becoming the next Tool are you? Very sophisticated you. Big boots to fill. And sir, I’m afraid an overture is little more than applying for a job vacancy. Your role here is very small. I on the other hand am on bigger pastures.
@hybridext, Hahaha, you’re unusually funny for a troll.
Music doctor, eh? That’s just a void concept, means nothing.
Massive? I don’t use that. Presets? Don’t use that shit either. I’m a sound designer and all, yknow.
The only one seen acting big and pretentious here is you, and why did you even come here in the first place if all you’re gonna do is rip on Sasho and me? Hmmm?
If you have nothing to say about kick drums, begone.
@hybridext, “Sasho, I think you’re getting music confused with business” I surely doubt so. I don’t even know what you’re talking about anymore. No music from you, only bragging about… nothing, really.
I haven’t seen discussion like this on this site about music competition, and even though you’re not contributing to the thread at all or coming with the intention that we could learn something from each other, I thought you’re kinda interesting and was curious how your work sounds like. Everything is off-topic now.
One of the reasons I don’t even share most of the music I started making 10-11 years ago is because I had to start hating visiting studios of self-proclaimed producers that couldn’t earn my respect, yet had a very high opinion of themselves and took an absurd amount of money from musicians they didn’t even like. Not anyone was even remotely passionate about music, except some of the artists that tried to work with those “producers”. I found that awful.
What is the “David Markey band”? Who is David Markey?
By the way, excuse my incompetence, but I had to google what EDM is, because electronic music isn’t something I’d listen to alone. So I found this and thought it’s hilarious:
“His bandmate Guy-Manuel de Homem-Christo then added: “I don’t know EDM artists or the albums. At first I thought it was all just one guy, some DJ called EDM.” When asked if that was because it all sounded the same, he replied” “A little bit, yeah!” while Bangalter added: “Maybe it’s just one guy called Eric David Morris.”"
@manimal, I kind of admire you want to make everything from scratch and I love messing around with knobs and ‘learn’, but if I don’t like some trick used by someone else somewhere I wouldn’t even get inspiration from the basic samples. I got bored once and made something with sounds of a nylon bag because it sounded like maracas. I also made a believable R2-D2 from Star Wars on the Reason Subtractor. And probably a thousand different things when I preferred to stay at home and tinker. If it isn’t fun I won’t do it at all. Speaking of fun, this reminds me to post my gypsy song from 9 years ago.
I could sure use some of your advice about the mastering tweaks, but I always loved raw and unpolished stuff. An arranged charming jumble or the complete opposite. :)
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