LSD: good or evil?

2 years, 4 months ago

A few weeks ago I tried LSD for the first time. I was nervous considering the fact that it’s not a natural hallucinogen. (For example, shrooms/marijuanna) I went to the beach down the road from my house, layed a blanket out, took two “hits” and read my book for an hour. I had done a lot of research on it before I tried it. I learned that It’s difficult to start tripping if you think about it. It’s better to occupy yourself. So that’s just what I did. I’m not going to go into detail of my trip, but basically you get the picture. It hit me and I cloud watched for a good 4 hours. ever since then i’ve been doing it every now and then. Once a week maybe. Some of my friends are jealous, and want to do it with me. But some of them are completely against it. I feel like the people against it, don’t have a good enough reason. That’s just my opinion. Anyways, I want to know your opinion on LSD. Share a trip story, good or bad. Explain why you like it, or don’t like it. etc etc…

November 29, 2012 at 7:51 am

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Profile photo of Ellie Ellie M (@tangledupinplaid21) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, That sounds like a beautiful day. I think it’s great but used too often and it loses the magic and sort of becomes pointless. (This applies to any drug). I recommend limiting it to once every few months so you can get the most out of each trip. I doubt you will take my advice though, I certainly had to learn that lesson for myself. :)

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Profile photo of Taylor- Ann Battiste Taylor- Ann Battiste (@taylordacreator) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, Actually, I trust your advice! I’ve had many people tell me this, and i’ve seen it happen to a friend. After he did it for the first time, he became a… heavy weight, i guess that could be used as the correct term. He’d have to take more hits each time and eventually he couldn’t even feel it anymore. Almost as if he became completely tolerant to it.

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Profile photo of Ben Ben (@benjamin) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

I’m copy-and-pasting one of my replies from a thread very similar to this. Someone tried psychedelics a couple times, had bad experiences, but wanted to know whether he should keep trying to learn what there is to learn. This is what I said:

I’ve never tripped at all, but from what I’ve observed there are people for whom psychedelic experiences help their philosophical/spiritual/whateverrual wisdom journey, and also people who are set back on said journey by psychedelics. Although there are similarities in experience, everybody has a different mind/body setup, so everybody is going to react to each drug in their own unique way. Perhaps with your mind/body setup psychedelics aren’t met for you. I wouldn’t worry if you think this could be the case; a couple of BIG TIME ex-hippies have told me that although some things can be hard to see without drugs, there are no lessons you can’t learn sober that you can on drugs.

Some here may argue that psychedelics are essential to realize how and why one should reduce and/or look beyond their ego. I don’t think this is necessarily true. I have seen some people end up so lost in psychedelics they reinforced their ego. Our culture thinks inside the box, and we need to start expanding this box so we can widen our perceptions and wisdom. But I think for some people, instead of expanding/opening the box, psychedelics just trap them in a different, equally as enclosed box 17 galaxies away from the box our culture thinks inside of.

Like I said, I’ve never tripped, so I can’t say I can speak with a ton of authority on the subject. But I’ve known and talked with many a-trippernaut and have read/watched shit like The Doors of Perception/The Spirit Molecule. I feel like I’m as informed as one could be without actually having had the experience (although most who have had the experience would probably say that makes me not informed at all!). Basically, I would just consider whether or not psychedelics are essential to your progress. And regardless of whether or not they are, potentially look into other methods of exploring consciousness such as meditation, kundalini uprisings, binaural beats, etc etc. I’m not trying to push you in any direction; your journey is your journey and you need to do what you need to do. But assuming that drugs are the right way for everyone to explore themselves/their relation to the universe could end up hurting in the long run if drugs aren’t the way you’re meant to explore such things.

Still haven’t tried any psychedics since I posted this. I don’t think they are an invalid or “evil” way of experiencing of our world. Like I said I’ve known plenty of people who’ve used them, come back fine, and learned alot. But no matter who you are you’ve gotta keep that shit in a balance or else you’ll go loony. It’s all up to you in the end, but keep yourself in check and make sure you are respecting the experiences those drugs bring you by recognizing the parts they are meant (and not meant!) to play in your life.

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Profile photo of Taylor- Ann Battiste Taylor- Ann Battiste (@taylordacreator) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@benjamin, I couldn’t agree more, balancing that shit out is one way to keep your mind set high. I know some people who become completely dependent on hallucinogens, either as a crutch, or just to get away from “boring ass” reality. That’s the opposite of what they should be used for. I for one am not dependent of lsd and honestly, I couldn’t ever imagine doing it ALL the time. It’s an open door to knew things and i’ve thought about using it for meditation purposes. I’m just not sure how that’ll work yet.

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Profile photo of Ben Ben (@benjamin) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, Wordup yo, sounds to me like you got the right attitude to approach it with! Hope you have good journeys :D

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Profile photo of Taylor- Ann Battiste Taylor- Ann Battiste (@taylordacreator) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@benjamin, Thanks, that’s the plan :)

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Profile photo of sonika sonika (@sonika22) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

i too wana try LSD. I had marijuana and had awsome trips (except wen i overdosed and started tripping im gonna die) . well excess of everything is bad, once in a while is okay…ur shot sounds good!! :)

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Profile photo of Veggies4Lyfe Veggies4Lyfe (@iluvdamusic) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

As mentioned before moderation is key, especially for psychedelics. I know a few people that like you take hits far to often, every week/every day. They always seem to end up a little psychotic. But that could just be them, and of course drugs do affect people differently. But I would suggest lessening you’re use. It’s always fun to look forward to tripping, but if you’re doing it weekly it looses it’s “magic”.

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Profile photo of Forlane Forlane (@forlane) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Well, I don’t know about LSD, never tried it. I have experience with mushrooms and ayahuasca. What’s important to me is the intention you have when taking it. So far, it has been to heal and gain clearer insight in some issues in my life. Also to connect more with my intuition. Ayahuasca did wonders for that :-). I’ve also been practicing zen for a long, long time and as far as I can see, it’s a very good combination.
I wouldn’t take it more than once a month. Just let it sink in and see how it works.

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Profile photo of Taylor- Ann Battiste Taylor- Ann Battiste (@taylordacreator) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

totally rad! Whats ayahuasca?? I dont think ive ever heard of it.@forlane,

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Profile photo of Forlane Forlane (@forlane) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator Well, ayahuasca is a hallucinogenic plant brew, made from several plants and contains DMT. It is considered to be medicine and can have different kinds of physical, mental and spiritual effects. Pretty potent stuff :-).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayahuasca

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Profile photo of Brendan Barstow Brendan Barstow C (@eyesopen) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, Please maintain that mature attitude towards drugs, stay informed and curious and you’ll be swell!

I’m extremely curious about LSD and psychedelics in general. I’ve only experimented with weed and shrooms before. Mushrooms provided me with a fantastic experience and that experience heightened my curiosity about other psychedelics, the only thing inhibiting my exploration is an inability to find a local supplier. I feel that altering your state of mind through a variety of methods like meditation, sleep deprivation, and psychedelics can yield awesome insight into both the self and the nature of other people and the world around us.

On frequency of use, the best approach is Alan Watts': “When you get the message, hang up the phone.”
Psychedelics, like any other substance or activity, can become habit-forming and thus should always be taken with a purpose – whether that be personal growth, introspection, creativity, problem-solving, as long as you can justify your use with reasons like these one should never run into the problem of ‘addiction’ (psychological) or psychosis.

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, I don’t think LSD is the issue. Asking ‘good or evil?’ is the programmed part. Why not “benevolent or wonky?” or “serendipitous or scary?” Just because a trip is hard, does not make it evil, and just because a trip is pleasant, does not make it good. everything has it’s purpose.

Every chemical on planet earth is natural to the universe. I did LSD once. It was enough. It was perfect. It was hard. It was scary. It was awesome. I saw how everything is the same thing: me, the holograph of the universe, expressing itself in this form. Good or Evil? that’s the ‘knowledge’ that the psychedelics help us erase (when we are ready).

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Profile photo of Kip Goeing Kip Goeing (@kipgoeing) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Good or evil?? Good, evil, right, wrong, morals, or justice–whatever you want to call it–it’s the biggest game of play-pretend/make-believe ever played. Think about that next time you’re tripping.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, It’s both. Besides physical refractory period I see no harm in dosing as often as you can handle. As long as you keep your karma in check and stuff.

http://www.holybooks.com/wp-content/uploads/Timothy-Leary-The-Psychedelic-Experience-The-Tibetan-Book-Of-The-Dead.pdf

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

“good or evil”

Its an inanimate object. The user manifests these things in their experience.

LSD and all entheogens are tools. Would you ask the question is a crow bar good or evil? IS a bullet good or evil? No, they can be used in various ways with different outcomes.

Just be smart and listen to whats being told to you.

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Profile photo of AbeLincoln'sBeard AbeLincoln’sBeard (@abelincolnsbeard) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

LSD is neither good nor evil. Just like any psychedelic, it will be whatever you choose to label it drawing from what you take away from the experience. Some people will have bad experiences and be convinced that the devil was talking to them. Others will have a transcendental experience in which they contact god. I’ve done LSD twice and have had very positive experiences both times; the first time was one of the best nights of my life. LSD isn’t going to harm anyone physically but it can be a rough psychological experience. My advice for if you do it is to simply not fight it. Go along and enjoy the trip wherever it may take you.

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Profile photo of josephm josephm (@josephm) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

all it is is a sub-conscious eliminator, you realize that you ARE your sub-conscious.

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Profile photo of Mikey W Mikey W (@mikeyw829) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Technology: good or evil? Thinking: good or evil? Food: good or evil? Power: good or evil? Money: good or evil?

get the picture? Good or evil depending on how you use and perceive it.

Not one way or the other ultimately. Ask yourself if something is good for you and the environment around you. If it is, then do it. It has nothing to do with what people judge you superficially as.

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Profile photo of josephm josephm (@josephm) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

also allows you to laugh ANYTHING off. without an ounce of negativity in the right environment effectively fixing you if you grew up wrong

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Profile photo of oniverse oniverse (@jneggleston) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Great drug if you have the mind for it, you must be ready to give yourself to the universe and have full acceptance of whatever may come of it. LSD has a lot to offer, it can be a catalyst to some extraordinary thoughts/ experiences. But once you’ve seen what’s beyond that ‘door’, there comes a point when re-opening the door ceases to be beneficial to oneself, in my opinion. Once you see what’s to be seen, carry the experience(s) with you, let them change you for the better, but don’t over-do the trippin otherwise one tends to lose appreciation for what LSD has to offer.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@taylordacreator, it’s neither good or evil. The key is learning to use to your advantage.
Do it too often and it loses it’s value. Delving into the depths of your subconcious should be something special not. Also, doing it way too many times too closely will burn you out mentally adn physically.

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Profile photo of Chris Chris (@chlomo) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

LSD allowed me to visualize infinity and conceptualize my place in the universe. I saw that I was the result of infinite interactions and faced with infinite possibilities for the future the each contained an ifintite amount of intricacies. Now I understood what inifinity ment before this trip but I never had an example I could visualize. Acid did that for me and for that i thank it. Also it has spiritually recharged me and realigned me on a number of occations and that is why I hold it in such high esteem.

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Profile photo of Kazi Kazi (@kazi) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

LSD is fun, but don’t do it as recreationaly as you seem to do. If you suck yourself too deep into the mindset you get when you’re high, you can start to lose touch with reality. Or at least that is from my personal experience and observation

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Profile photo of Arun Arun (@arunmehta1986) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

I’ve used acid twice and the main thing about it is the setting and the people you are tripping with. Both should be good and it should not be mixed with other drugs ,esp alcohol or tobacco. LSD is not only recreational ,but also has therapeutic potential , that’s what I thought because my confidence boosted significantly during and after the trip. LSD also improves sensitivity , as opposed to liquor, marijuana etc which lower sensitivity. So, LSD can make you appreciate beauty, and this appreciation would in some cases linger for several days beyond the trip. I don’t approve regular usage of any drug including LSD. For being on the safe side ,I’d say keep the usage below once a month.

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