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Erich Eisenhart (@eyeslikeskies)    1 year, 11 months ago

Alright HEthens,

Here’s my hypothesis: Cannabis is the holy herb. It balances the Autonomic Nervous System which allows for optimal function of the human being as an organism. This balance also allows one to experience heart-consciousness. Our hearts pick up and interact through electromagnetic information (www.heartmath.org). Therefore, cannabis breaks down the bridge between inside and out, energetically speaking.

I believe cannabis is a teacher, a plant teacher that shows us how to interact with others out of love.

I believe this herb has the potential to change human history if used correctly.

I would like to hear thoughts, insights, similar experiences. Don’t beat around the bush.

Most importantly, if something helps you gain higher consciousness, it is only healthy to use.

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Zykanthos (@chodebalm)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Wow. This is the best way I’ve ever heard it put. I love this. Thanks for posting.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)1 year, 11 months ago ago

I believe this to be true..

I think that this holy herb can be the solution for world peace.

If all our world leaders smoked a community joint together..they would laugh, cry, feel awesome, feel awkward..and experience profound realizations.

No anger, no animosity when you are feeling mighty high.

It’s a tool..and peace must be at the forefront of the marijuana push. We can’t use it as a crutch..and we can’t use it to bolster our image.

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josephm (@josephm)1 year, 11 months ago ago

drugs are chemical accelerators of the body. THC(tetrahydrocannabinol) naturally occurs in our body. It is released in example: running, running is a subliminal form of meditation which (aside from the obvious physical benefits) it soothes the soul. weed strives to balance all chemical imbalances in the brain at all times. if your down it brings you up and if your up it brings you down.

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Olivia (@lolivia)1 year, 11 months ago ago

The first time I smoked bud I thought I had discovered the key to life. Maybe I did……. Whenever I schmoke the ganja I feel such intense love for everyone, currently trying to bring that into sobriety.

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JayBird (@jasonrodz)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Yeah the first time i smoked weed was like… 4 years ago?, it made me realize things you just normally don’t no matter what; I started feeling sorry for a dying tree i saw, and after seeing that it literally made me appreciate my life. I felt like i held the answers to everything. this level passed, after awhile there isn’t much to notice, then i went into a state of spirituality, i just wanted to be peaceful like a hippie lol and now all i care about are philosophies, theories and new ideas that can help me expand my mind, weed just, makes me feel human instead of a robot like everyone else get me? i think weed takes you through steps in life, it gives you thoughts and feelings you don’t pick up with out being aware of them, weed helps you become aware. For me at least, there’s this saying “Marijuana affects people differently” – they could be right. idk.

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dakota (@dkhamlett)1 year, 11 months ago ago

I couldn’t agree more with everything being said in this post. I Believe you are all correct and hopefully this world we live in now is going through a complete conscious awakening. I would love to live in a world where our leaders sat around and passed the peace pipe before making any drastic decisions. It’s up to people like us to keep moving forward and bring forth the truth and drown out the ignorance.

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crux58 (@crux)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@eyeslikeskies, I started smoking herb about 1 year ago, and as I commonly tell people who ask me about it I say… “I once was blind but now I see”.

There are two points in my life, pre-weed and post-weed. Pre weed I was a bitter person who was opinionated, selfish and didn’t give a fuck about anything but myself and my opinions. I didn’t give my family nor my friends the respect they deserved and could not find anything positive in this world. A few friends of mine had always smoked and I always said no when they offered me a joint. But gradually I accepted and felt my mind explode, open up and start loving everything and everyone. It didn’t happen straight away but with time my mind became awakened to the world around me. Every time I get high I want to learn as much as I can and I think this corresponds with your, “I believe cannabis is a teacher, a plant teacher that shows us how to interact with others out of love.” comment. It is so bizarre that on this tiny spec of rock in the Universe a herb that grows from the ground can completely change the way someone thinks.

The world is meant to be a place filled with love and happiness, and as I smoke this joint I can feel that message swell up inside of me like a pulsing heart beat.

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Gosho (@gosho)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Hey guys, good topic, but don’t you think just looking at one side of things will never show you the big picture?

What I see here is a bunch of happy people who smoke marijuana so that they can enhance their happiness. But I’ve seen many people smoking marijuana when they are in a bad mood or their point of view is negative in general, and when they get high that just gets enhanced.

They don’t magically get converted into smiling hippies. They don’t suddenly feel connected to the Universe. They feel the same, just now they are also “buzzed” or “stoned” or whatever. For first timers, they could have a “bad trip” , some people never smoke after that (might be for good). Marijuana just isn’t for everyone.

I think marijuana enhances the way you experience life. Connects “reality” with your patterns of reality, everything starts “making sense” and you feel so much more *insert intense feeling* than before. Then you come down, the feeling is lost and you want it back. You want those insights back, you want that connection back. That’s how you get psychologically addicted to marijuana. And then you find reasons to justify it. From there on, it’s a long road.

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magik (@magicmush)1 year, 11 months ago ago

i agree with what a lot has been said so far but yes – very one sided topic. I had been smoking weed for about 5 years and in that time i have learnt so much about myself, others, life, people, interaction, corruption – everything about the world that you learn on those ‘buzzy’ sessions with your mates, learning things that no one would even give a shit about if they were sober. but there is a horrible dark side to smoking this. it is the gateway drug to a lot of things and often leads to you meeting rough people, getting in dangerous situations, being financially buttraped, having run ins with the law and mixing and mingling with a whole different crowd of people. i have seen people – my best friends lives been overtaken and ruined cause of this little herb. my best friend became a full on dealer because he was a heavy weed smoker, what started out as a big habit turned into buying large amounts for free smoke then selling off the rest to make the money back. the money and no job seemed a dream and too easy and before you knew it his house turned into the local tinny house. i couldnt stand seeing the corrupted person my best friend had became it ruined our friendship. i was working my ass off doing 50 hour weeks paying all my bills and buying his drugs fueling my horrible weed addiction whilst he sat at home selling to 100′s of people not even lifting a finger. i havnt even touched on the dependancy of the drug, you get so used to it when you smoked as much as me – multiple times per day that the best part of your day was the first 5 minutes of waking up that you were sober (and this sober non high feeling even felt rare and odd) i was at the point where i couldnt imagine people not walking around being high or smoking weed. then i realised that something was seriously wrong and i was under this massive spell that comes with the drug now ive stopped and my life couldnt be better without it.

I really think it all does its wonders for everyone but if you go around smoking it day in day out and thinking oh its not addictive i can do as much of it as i want – isnt that the addiction? for me its the most addictive drug in the world – not physically but mentally because there is this whole ‘its not addictive’ regime with it.

Getting high is the addictive part. It doesnt matter how you do it thats what it is and thats the harsh truth about it. I have seen both sides of this drug please dont argue with me on this im not looking to cause trouble.

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Machiruu (@machiruu)1 year, 11 months ago ago

I definitely think both sides of the coin need to be visited here. I am a devoutee to the bud but there is definitely something to be said about overuse and how it can lead to mental and physical lethargy. Not to mention an array of negative emotions it can accelerate like anxiety, nervousness, austere introspection that can send you into a spiral that aint so fun. Also it is difficult to be mindful and smoke casually at the same time because it is so mentally draining. On the other hand, creatively it can work miracles to enhance your mental cognition.

Initially I came to many grand revelations after smoking but after continual use I find the feeling is not what it used to be. After 3 hours of ephemeral magic I find that no amount of smoking can recreate the initial feelings and then I feel like I am just wasting my time – and my weed. The rest of my day will be plagued by my tired mind and I will be noticeably less active the day after.

Its can be a beautiful think to smoke, create, connect and epiphanise but when you are spending more days lying zoned out on your couch its time to take a break.

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thezango (@thezango)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Agreeing with the general tone of the thread, I believe that marijuana is a wonderful creation and in the past year that I have smoked ‘full-time’ my mind has grown amazingly, I have learnt to appreciate different perspectives and have learnt a great deal about myself and the world.

However, on the flip side, I have/am also experiencing the effects of addiction, like that little voice that takes over when ‘its just one more’ or I buy weed without considering my weekly budget. I also believe that its very easy to get trapped in negative thought patterns with weed, such as getting stuck with a negative thought that pops up from time to time, subtly playing on your mind. But as I have realized the negative effects I have tried to maintain control and adjust my smoking, so now I only get amazingly high with friends, and am more prone to one nice relaxing joint in the afternoon and one before bed otherwise.

TL/DR: Weeds awesome, just make sure to maintain both moderation and control

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cadeus (@cadeus333)1 year, 11 months ago ago

There can be no doubt that bud can lead to other drugs BUT is is the conscious decision of the user to move on to the other drugs, you can’t blame the bud. I don’t. I blame myself for thinking I could handle it, despite all the information I had saying otherwise.

I smoke maybe one or twice a week if I’m lucky, I have a busy life and a family now so I don’t have much time or money to spend on weed. I think it is perfect for me though. A little reward for the daily grind, working my ass off and going to school. It is my ME time. It gives me an opportunity to decompress and reevaluate the decisions that need to be made from a different, positive mind frame.

It really is a sacred ritual for me and I feel that doing it weekly instead of daily keeps it special and keeps the inspirational aspect in tact. Some of the best decisions I have ever made regarding, my family life, work or other aspects of my life were made under the influence of cannabis. It is my spiritual adviser so to speak, it allows me to tackle problems from perspective of love. Even when regarding work, “what will benefit all parties?” I’m not saying I cannot make these decisions sober but cannabis puts me on the love wavelength and makes it obvious.

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I don’t think weed’s all that, but it’s certainly fun.

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Ellie (@tangledupinplaid21)1 year, 11 months ago ago

I don’t really smoke anymore except maybe once or twice a month(if that). I used to be a full time stoner and it was terrible. It’s definitely a myth that weed is not addictive. ANYTHING has the potential to be addictive, especially mind altering things. So do the world a favor and quit propagating this misinformation!

Lately I’ve been considering smoking again but want to limit it to once a week, twice tops. I used to think that MJ caused anxiety but lately I’ve been thinking that it only enhances what is already there and makes it more noticeable and intense. When I do smoke I will be using it for apartment cleaning frenzy days, and to enhance my focus with art and playing music. It is not a social drug for me.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@eyeslikeskies, I love these posts because there are people that are far left, far right and in between. So here is my opinion, and its just that an opinion. First off, weed is not for everyone, we all know that because we are all different and we all react to differently to anything in life whether it be food, alcohol, weed, weather, other people etc. However we also know weed is not physically addicting only psychologically so for me here the difference for people being addicted or not is their brain power, will power and maturity.

When i first started smoking it was solely to get as stoned as possible at any possible time. All my friends were like that through highschool with any drug they used, we just wanted to get fucked up. Now that I have been smoking on and off for about 9 years I have finally realized what it is weed does and how it helps me and how I can control my smoking when i want to. It is a drug that will expand your mind, make you creative, make you question rules, laws, society and pretty much anything and everything around you. That is the beauty of the drug, it helps you sift through all the bull shit life throws at us constantly. It will help you learn by sparking your interest in things that never before mattered and give you an opened mind.

As you said and as Bob Marley, SOJA and many others have said throughout history “it has the power to change the world”. I agree with that 100% because atleast for me and others i see that it makes people more accepting, more loving and more caring about the next human being. It will help alleviate hate in your life if you actually reflect on life and dont veg out every time you smoke. There is a reason it has been used for thousands of years in cultures that promote peace, meditation and love.

It is horribly demonized in the world now, at least by western society, and that is why is gets the negative stigma to it and thats why people abuse the drug as teens and young adults because they are using it for the wrong reason. If it were legal and promoted for what it is, (a love drug, a meditative drug) then society would be using it differently and having different effects from it. We would have to be around the horrible dealers, shitty fucking people if it were legal, and we all know it should be. Propaganda ruined this magical drug, and it is only now that people are opening their minds and realizing, hey this isnt a bad thing, its natural and it has healing powers.

I can only hope that more people are awakened to the wonders of this plant for medical and recreational use and it one day becomes legal.

@cadeus333 you seem to have a good thing going there, using it for the right reasons and not over using. Thats the other problem with some people that they over use and we all know anything can be bad when that happens no matter the vice.
@thezango yea definitely moderation and control, you have to have that reflection time/sober time
@magicmush yea its not for everyone and for me i believe it all in the head and once someone has the power to realize the good and the bad and they can control the drug it has benefits

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Sean (@season)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@eyeslikeskies, Like, woah.

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Shivvy (@shivvy)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Weed is definitely something that has helped a lot of people throughout their lives but it does however have its negative sides. I used to smoke pretty much every day or every second day and I loved it, it made me think about things in a different way, made me stop being such an asshole to everyone, made me all around better. It did also lead to some existential anxiety though; one night I was smoking and thought about life, how wonderful it is, and how death is guaranteed for all of us no matter what and although there are some theories about what happens after we don’t actually know what happens. Some of that anxiety still lingers today, it follows me around and won’t leave me alone sometimes.

Weed is amazing, I still recommend it to people to this day even after what it did to me. We have to acknowledge its potential bad side effects though; I thought it was the Holy of Holies up until the day the existential crisis started.

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Erich Eisenhart (@eyeslikeskies)1 year, 11 months ago ago

My friends, the diversity and thoughtful tones of your responses are greatly appreciated.

@chodebalm, You are most welcome.

@searchingforthetruth, Your remark about the herb as a tool is a central crux to the conversation. Similarly as a hammer may be used to break a skull open, it may also be used to build a garden.

@josephm, A very excellent point. We do have cannabanoids in our bodies along with other psychoactive chemical structures such as DMT. Makes you think that plants may contain natural neurotransmitters…

@lolivia, The best of luck to you on the path of integrating love. It is so difficult at times but also so loving. If we are all one, how could we hate another, except by hating ourselves?

@jasonrodz, I hear you brother, the plant definitely just pushes everything to a deeper level. It challenges us to examine our lives on a very complex plane. The remark about the dying tree is wonderful, to hear that ganja allowed you to truly see life as it is.

@dkhamlett, Very well said. We need to be vehicles of change, we need to be brutally compassionate. To call out that which is not aware, so to say!

@crux, How close this post lies to my heart. I went through the same awakening as you. Marijuana transformed me on such a profound level that I rejected suicide. It opens up the heart, and that is the key. Thank you so much for sharing such wonderful thoughts.

@gosho, Thank you for grounding this argument. It does enhance whatever one experiences. Therefore, if one’s intention is to use it as an escape, it will become just that. I have many friends in sad situations with marijuana. Similarly, one may kill or hit a home run with a bat.

@magicmush, Your insights are valid and valued. I share similar experiences with friends. It can be the most damaging addiction. But, again, it is all based upon one’s intention.

@machiruu, Your thoughts on moderation are very well put. I always take one hit and stop, and as the threshold is crossed, one is able to do the work they set out to do. It’s not as exhausting to use a small amount, at least in my experience.

@thezango, Incredibly put. A delicate balance must be maintained with this herb. But isn’t that just one of the lessons it has to teach us, about balance?

@cadeus333, Couldn’t agree more about cannabis and other drugs. To suggest that marijuana convinces one to use different psychoactive compounds is a serious lack of responsibility. Once or twice a week is by far the best way. I use it one a week as well and feel that it allows for the clearest insights that way.

@generaltitsvonchodehoffen, A valuable opinion, good sir!

@tangledupinplaid21, I used to experience anxiety with marijuana as well. Try taking one small hit. You’ll be pleasantly surprised :)

@reinvented2012, The weed is absolutely not for everyone, couldn’t agree more. Marijuana receives the stigma it does because it threatens the power structure. It forces one to question authoritarian society and recognize how barbaric and unnecessary it is. I am delighted to hear about your transformation and growing experiences with the herb. You are so right about it being a love drug. Let’s spread the love!

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derek (@dkanowsky)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@eyeslikeskies, To introduce a new point of view – I recently stopped smoking weed because it greatly inhibits dream recall (being able to vividly remember your dreams upon waking up). I’ve been reading pretty deeply into lucid dreaming, and realized it’s a nearly impossible skill to learn while in a weed smoking lifestyle (this coming from a guy who smoke several times a day for the last 2 years, and remembers only a couple dreams if that). Not to burst anyone’s bubble here – as I believe everyone is completely free to do as they please and if weed helps one gain a greater understanding of reality or compassion for others, by all means do it – but I think the things capable within skillful lucid dreaming far exceed the abilities of weed. Not to mention, it encourages finding contentment and satisfaction within one’s own mind, rather than relying on consumption of something external to bring it.

This is simply my recently developed point of view, but I thought I’d put it out there just to broaden the discussion a bit.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@josephm, THC is not naturally occurring in the body – don’t say stuff like that… that’s a huge claim and to just throw it around without a simple google search is…not good.

I’m attempting something in my other thread about “astral projection” used loosely. The immediate results are interesting…

http://www.highexistence.com/topic/i-want-participants-for-an-astral-projection-expt/

However I have a much deeper reasoning of doing this, for all of you lovers of THC please take part in the experiment.

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Keriaku (@keriaku)1 year, 11 months ago ago

I generally agree with basically everything said in the thread, but I’ll add a couple points I’ve thought. Overall, I think weed has the inherent benefit of making people more open minded by inviting them to look at reality from a viewpoint beyond their regular perspective. In this sense it is a good thing. At the same time what I’ve found, for smoking it to actually be beneficial the person needs to be interested in this kind of thinking. People need to actually want to use their mind, and only then do all of these positive things follow. Being a young adult, I look around and I see a lot of people who smoke a lot, but they do it to ‘turn their mind off’. They use it so they have something to do while they don’t think about anything, with the added benefit of making a TV show slightly more interesting. So it definitely depends on the person, but I don’t think a lot of people actually try to get the most out of it, and it’s deifnitely how they look at it. A lot of people look at it like alcohol and drinking, where for weed they smoke just to get really stoned, not for introspection or creativity.

Personally, I started getting a lot more out of weed when I started smoking by myself. I can smoke a tiny amount and get a lot of out of it alters my consciousness in the slightest. Where when you’re with other people you automatically smoke a lot more, you’re not as attuned to the slighter changes in your mind so it doesn’t ‘feel’ like you’re high. It’s an interesting thing I noticed.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@keriaku, I agree about the smoking alone thing in a way. I find that when i take a bong hit or 2 then go for a drive (usually to my girls house) my head is filled with thoughts. I starts solving personal issues and larger issues in my head. Things really start to make more and more sense as i am driving. I wish I wrote that stuff down, so maybe it would be good for me to chill in my room alone once and a while and start writing this stuff down. Its pretty amazing how the thought process changes.

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Vteezy Living (@groig22)1 year, 11 months ago ago

Well i started smoking weed about 3-4 years ago and i never stopped. i smoke lots and lots of weed everyday. there were a few days here and there that i was dry and couldn’t get high and it bummed me out, but that just made me appreciate it more when i could get my hands on some. also i went on vacation for 1 week with my family and i couldn’t smoke the whole time, but because i was occupied with new stimulating experiences it really didn’t bother me. My life seems to have improved astronomically from smoking weed. except i’ve always had this weird feeling that i’m “addicted.” I don’t seem addicted to weed but i definitely smoke it addictively. Everythings better on weed so why not smoke it all day everyday? Well what i decided is to see how addicted i was so i looked at my last gram and told myself “this is gunna be my last weed for a while :(.” Today is my full week off from weed, and honestly, it was not very hard at all to quit. All i had to do was not buy weed (saving money yeah!) and tell my friends some story like “I’m taking a break from weed so i can remember my dreams better.” (it deffinitely does help.) The first couple days were somewhat of a tease because everyone would blow bonghits in my face and oh they smelled so good. From day 3 on though i haven’t even thought of smoking. I’ve been high so long that i’m kind of in a state of natural high and just being around people who are high or tripping or drunk, i can pick up on their energy and enter somewhat the state of mind they’re in. I’m 1 week in now and the only downside i can think of is It took me much longer to fall asleep at night for a few nights. however i’ve felt better rested off of less sleep. Last night however i found out that reading right before bed until i’m tired makes me pass out like a baby again. My main goals from this are to prove to myself that i’m not addicted which i seem to have passed and to lower my tolerance so that when i start smoking again i can smoke a bong hit or two every once in a while instead of smoking tons of weed all day. plus my sober dreams have been helping me realize the things that have been stressing me out lately and now that i’ve come to terms with them i’m more relaxed than ever. I will go at least one more week without smoking and depending how i’m at then i’ll either start stoning myself again or try to stay sober till 12/21/2012. That seems like a great day for first bong hit in a month meditation i’d say.

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)1 year, 11 months ago ago

@eyeslikeskies, Ehh I kind of see what you’re saying. Marijuana can be very beneficial to a person, or very detrimental depending on how you use it. The same goes for many other substances that mess with the nervous system.

How do people use it negatively?
Basically just using it to get high is using it negatively. It’s pure escapism. I can really see a positive reason as to why governments would want to ban its use. The whole pot culture is really just advocating escapism in my opinion. Normal consciousness is boring, so they need to ingest a substance in order to alter their perceptions. Yeah you might have some interesting thoughts, but after a while you get pretty used being in the altered state, and then you just need more and more. You actually weaken the nervous system and train yourself to be less able to sense nervous system activation (that’s why these people tend to be pretty spacey and numb to their emotions).

How do people use it positively?
From my experience, it leads to conscious control of the nervous system. Marijuana alters and stresses the normal functioning of the nervous system, and if you can stay totally alert, you can learn to regulate and bypass these effects. It’s basically just really intense mind training and nervous system strengthening. At that point, you don’t even feel high at all, just super alert, super ‘in the zone,’ completely grounded.

Any time you get nervous or frustrated or sad or whatever, it’s an issue with the nervous system being out of balance. If you can learn to balance the nervous system by submitting it to a specific amount of stress that you can handle (marijuana is one way of doing this, if you use it responsibly to go just beyond your normal edge), you can learn stay alert and centered at all times. Using it in this way, you’d only take probably one hit (two hits at most). If you pay enough attention, you’d see that even one hit speed everything up tremendously. Take too much, and you have more nervous energy running through your system than you can handle, leading to a lowering of awareness and the ‘high’ feeling.

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