Meditation/Consciousness

2 years, 10 months ago

Meditation brings a sense of fullness and completion, and is the only permanent source of tranquility available to human beings. All other forms of serenity are temporary and dissolve into conflict and chaos over time. The euphoria of drugs quickly lead to misery and self-destruction. The wholesomeness of love, so beautiful and ethereal, is a relatively short lived and fleeting experience. As J. Krishnamurti said, meditation brings order and “That order is the order of the universe. It is irrevocable and doesn’t depend on anything.” Meditation is the eternal essence of nature taking on conscious form within the mortal human frame.

Meditation is an adventure of self-discovery. How can you live without knowing who or what you are? If someone asks you who you are during the day, you may state your name, as if a temporary label actually means something important. Ask yourself who you are when you are in deep sleep, unconscious, and without even a dream to prove that you exist. Ask yourself who you were ten months before you were born, and who you will be just one moment after your body dies. Meditation increases awareness of the natural phenomena that is actually going on behind your own eyes. Self-knowledge has intrinsic value, even without the indescribable bliss nature generously unleashes in those who practice meditation with sincerity and patience.

– Christopher Calder

June 14, 2012 at 2:34 pm

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, so when will mediation cause you to treat others with respect?

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@healingchime, ” There is no need to avoid it if you understand: Jesus is so innocent! He is not angry; it is his compassion. He is not violent, he is not destructive; it is his love. The whip in his hand is the whip in the hands of love, compassion.

A man of awareness acts out of his awareness, hence there is no repentance; his action is total. And one of the beauties of the total action is that it does not create karma; it does not create anything; it doesn’t leave any trace on you. It is like writing on water: you have not even finished… it is gone. It is not even writing in sand, because that may remain for a few hours if the wind does not come–it is writing on water.”

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, Jesus says to love your neighbor as yourself. Your self-love is obvious and your love for me in our interactions is lacking. You go on about the benefits of meditation but want to call me names. One who finds the place of peace of meditation has no need to label those others, with disrespectful names. I know you by the fruit of your heart.

I see that you have two states. There is the you that you pretend to be when you post these things. Then there is the one who spins out of control calling me names and saying I’m full of crap.

You are alternating between two poles, using your nice convictions to cover your fear and disgust inside. If it truly is writing on water, then why are you afraid of me?

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Profile photo of Shivvy Shivvy (@shivvy) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

This feud is really going on right now?

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@healingchime, get off this thread. fruity heart.

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, by the way, Jesus does not whip. He was the one whipped. He takes the swords away from his friends so the government can capture him, whip Him, and kill Him.

In this regard, I suffer with Christ as you whip me with insults. The Jews killed him because he told them he was divine, and that they were too (children of God). See the parallels to our little unfolding story here?

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Nothing is wrong with you, but the ideas
you have of yourself are altogether wrong.
It is not you who desires, fears and suffers,
it is the person built on the foundation of your body
by circumstances and influences.
You are not that person.
This must be clearly established in your mind
and never lost sight of.

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@shivvy, no its not a feud. It is just a love letter!

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All come back to the practice of meditation. By the merit of a single sitting he destroys innumerable accumulated sins.

Hakuin

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Whatever the problem it always comes back to the same answer, meditation.
Do persevere, even if you do not see any results coming, know that deep down something is happening and it will surface when the time is ripe, it is not in your hands, you just go on meditating.

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, How do you know I have desire? what are they? how can you be sure? Is it not a reflection of your desire that you project upon me?

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Bondage

To experience spiritual bondage and know intense desire to be free from it are both a preparation for the full enjoyment of the freedom that is to come.

Meher Baba

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We first have to feel imprisoned to create the desire to be free. Both are a preparation and a requirement to know the tremendous explosion of liberation.

Without sadness there would be no joy.
Without bondage no freedom.

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Profile photo of Healing Chime Audio Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, are you gay? why call me fruity?

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Here and Now

Whenever you have time close your eyes, even for a little while. Relax and just as you watch something outside this time watch something inside yourself. Watch your breath, coming in and going out. Listen to your heartbeat, tic toc tic toc. See the thoughts passing in your mind like clouds in the sky. Don’t judge just watch.
Be in this moment.

Shanti

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Anywhere, anytime, if you find a moment to go inside, do it. Sitting in the train, in the bus, going for a break, sitting on the sofa, sitting at your desk etc… simply close you eyes and be with yourself for a moment, the way you would be with your lover.
This moment is all we have.
Be in love with yourself.

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He depicts in words. Without any colors he makes paintings.
“The crescent moon — the eastern sky is dark, and the sound of a bell.” You can almost hear the sound of a bell. These are his moments of meditation. When he opens his eyes once in a while, he sees something: “The crescent moon — the eastern sky is dark, and the sound of a bell”…just fragments out of a meditative mind. They don’t say much, they simply depict a situation. Very visual — you can see it, you can hear it. Basho is very earth bound.

– Osho

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Expectation

You should find freedom by means of both examination and investigation.Don’t brag.Don’t be consumed by jealousy.Don’t act capriciously.Don’t expect thanks.

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Atisha

Comments: Life has no obligations to follow your desires.Expectations can give you big discontentment, big dissatisfaction if what you expect is not fulfilled. Be careful whenever you expect something, if it does not meet your expectations the fall will be harder.It is wise to follow this attitude: expect the worse and hope for the best; whatever happens you will be fulfilled.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Meditation is a quality; it can be brought to anything. It is not a specific act. People think that way, they think meditation is a specific act – when you sit facing to the east, you repeat certain mantras, you burn some incense, you do this and that at a particular time in a particular way with a particular gesture.
Meditation has nothing to do with all those things.
They are all ways to automatise it
and meditation is against automatisation.
So if you can keep alert, any activity is meditation;
any movement will help you immensely.

Osho

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“There is no path to truth, it must come to you.
Truth can come to you only when your mind and heart are simple, clear, and there is love in your heart; not if your heart is filled with the things of the mind.”

“To know yourself you need not go to any book, to any priest, to any psychologist. The whole treasure is within yourself.”

– Jiddu Krishnamurti

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Profile photo of Nic Nic (@ltwild3) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

To get back on topic, do any of you have any good (and possibly quick) suggestions for pineal gland decalsification for better metitative experiences?

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Love and the law of Moses

Let your gestures be alive, spontaneous. Let your own awareness decide your lifestyle, life pattern. Don’t allow anybody else to decide it. That is a sin, to allow anybody else to decide it.

Why is it a sin?–because you will never be in it. It will remain superficial, it will be hypocrisy. Don’t ask anybody how to pray. Let the moment decide, let the moment be decisive, and the truth of the moment should be your prayer. And once you allow the truth of the moment to possess you, you will start growing and you will know tremendous beauties of prayer. You have entered on the path.

Osho

A famous story about Moses:
He was passing through a forest and he saw a man praying. The man was saying such absurd things that Moses had to stop. What the man was saying was profane, sacrilegious. He was saying, “God, you must be feeling sometimes very alone–I can come and be always with you like a shadow. Why suffer loneliness when I am here? And I am not a useless person either–I will give you a good bath, and I will take all the lice from your hair and your body…”

Lice?! Moses could not believe his ears: what is this man talking about? “And I will cook food for you–everybody likes what I cook. And I will prepare your bed and I will wash your clothes. When you are ill I will take care of you. I will be a mother to you, a wife to you, a servant, a slave–I can be all kinds of things. Just give me a hint so I can come…”

Moses stopped him and said, “What are you doing? To whom are you talking? Lice in God’s hair? He needs a bath? Stop this nonsense! This is not prayer. God will be offended by you.”

Looking at Moses, the man fell at his feet. He said, “I am sorry. I am an illiterate, ignorant man. I don’t know how to pray. Please, you teach me!”

So Moses taught him the right way to pray, and he was very happy because he had put a man on the right track. Happy, puffed up in his ego, Moses went away. And when he was alone in the forest, a thundering voice came from the sky and said, “Moses, I have sent you into the world to bring people to me, to bridge people with me, but not to take my lovers away from me. And that’s exactly what you have done. That man is one of the most intimate to me. Go back and apologize. Take your prayer back! You have destroyed the whole beauty of his dialogue. He is sincere, he is loving. His love is true. Whatsoever he was saying, he was saying from his heart, it was not a ritual. Now what you have given to him is just a ritual. He will repeat it but it will be only on the lips; it will not be coming from his being.”

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The noise slowly dies down. This leaves you with a tremendous stillness. The noise is made of all the engagements your mind loves to immerse itself in. The stillness is what happens when all that clamour dies away. Taste stillness deeply once and it becomes a curative craving.

“When there is no thought moving inside you there is stillness; that stillness is meditation.”

Osho

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

On the one hand they will respect poverty,
and on the other hand they will say, ´Serve the poor.´
Strange! If poverty is so spiritual then the most spiritual thing will be to make every rich man, poor. Help the rich man to be poor, so he can become spiritual.
Why help the poor? Do you want to destroy his spirituality?
To live in abundance is the only spiritual thing in the world.

Osho

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Reality is simply the loss of ego. Destroy the ego by seeking its identity. Because the ego is no entity it will automatically vanish and reality will shine forth by itself.

-‘Be As You Are’,

The Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi

Edited by David Godman

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Profile photo of O Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, destroy destroy destroy DESTROYYYYY!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

…there is nothing to destroy, the idea of ego is simulated pieced out of “the” everything flow. Experienced is not pieced, reality is not pieced.

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@seeker, what the hell is “pieced” and why even argue semantics? Ramana Maharshi was not a prolific writer but nontheless, amazingly every major religious group in India agree he was fully-enlightened, a Buddha!

You’re just being a doofus.

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Profile photo of O Anonymous (@) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

@tigerturban, you just want to play around, me too in a very abstract sense.

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