Molly, First time after affects?
Okay so I took molly for the first time, it took about an hour to hit me and when it did I felt like a spirit took over my body, anyway, at first I freaked out a bit cause I was at a music show to see Hardwell and the place was PACKED and everyone was pushing people so I freaked and my friend took me downstairs and we chilled there and listened to the DJ there and I began to relax and just have the time of my life, It was the best experience ever besides freaking out at first.
Now the next day I woke up my pupils were still a bit dilated, I went to work found myself moving around like i wanted to dance all day and its been 2 days since I took molly and I find myself in a great, peaceful mind state still and in love with the meaning of plur, like just so happy. I hear some people get depressed but that was not the case for me, is that normal? I’m taking it again at another place next month, but I wonder if still feeling good and happy is normal. I also have a sore throat cause I didnt drink enough water because I found myself not thirsty and I usually fall asleep pretty early and now I sleep late and have lost my appetite a little bit, but I force myself to eat anyways.
So yeah any answers or opinions and thoughts is apprectiated!
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@sech, I know that kind of after-glow, a feeling that could last weeks!
My only advice.. try to not have that be your expectation every time you use the drug. That kind of expectation and desire can set you up to be bummed out and totally suppress the experience- stress your brain way too much and lead to a nasty hangover. I find it always has a new and exciting effect so always be open to whatever is thrown at you, good or bad. Less is more!
My first time trying it I did not get a hangover either, I think that is pretty normal of first-times. I really enjoyed the experience too, probably my favorite state of being. I’ve heard the warnings before as well like the people above are giving, and I think it’s okay as long as you don’t use too often. A month sounds like enough.
be careful with molly
ive been experiencing with molly/ecstasy for some time now, and what I have learned is that no matter how awesome you feel on the drug, NEVER try to achieve that same “high”. Molly differs from ecstasy (im assuming you know this already), but just because molly is the purest form of MDMA does not make it a safer drug. People still cut their molly with different fillers (caffeine, adderal, baking powders) and that can alter your “high”, making it not as easy to achieve the state of mind that you are trying to experience. WIth that being said, your probably going to want to take more and more to feel the effects, but that is not the answer. rolling is fun, it turns shows into experiences and you can find yourself being in a utopia of serotonin and adrenaline.but if you keep taking more and more of the drug, you will burn yourself out. Over time of bingeing, you could burn away all your serotonin and other “happy” chemicals in your brain. and just wait until you start getting hung over. you will start waking up the next day with no energy, no emotion, no drive. Your mouth will be completely torn up from biting the insides of your mouth (whenever i take molly or e, i always chew on a binkie. i know it looks crazy but it seriously works wonders with lock jaw and biting) and you’ll probably want to cry. you’ll fight with everyone because every little thing pisses you off. you wont be able to eat, youll have to force yourself to drink. its not fun recovering from the drug. taking Omega 3 will help your brain repair itself, but no vitamin will make you feel 100% better or help you fix the damage 100%.
and just as a personal opinion of mine – FUCK PLUR
there is soooooooooooooo much more to this scene (im assuming your into EDM) than kandi ravers and naked chicks. Please do not blind yourself with ignorance and immaturity of these 15-18 year old kandi kids, they do not know what they are doing out there at these shows. I just saw Pretty Lights and instead of raging when i was down in the pit, i had to feed little kids water and calm them down because they were bugging out on molly. do your research and know what your about to take. dont over do it and you’ll be okay. do it for YOU
From my experience, the first time i took it there was also no hangover and the next day I felt very peaceful, pupils still very dilated.
The more you take it, the less euphoric you will feel on the highs and hangovers will keep getting worse and worse (unconditional depression from 1 day to 1 week for me, not to mention the change in thought processes, but I fully recover from everything within a week.).
It’s a beautiful drug, but since i’ve abused it the ‘magic’ is gone now for me.
I suggest you take it no more than 3 times a year.
@sech the more you do it, the worse the comedown. The Molly will significantly deplete your brains supply of serotonin and you will feel sadness or like I describe it “an impending sense of doom” for a couple days after. I was on a Molly binge a year ago where I did it almost every weekend and now I only do it every few months. Moderation is key
@sech, I disagree with everyone who is saying its never as good as the first time. People always say that..
The more experience you have with the drug the more you can unlock its full potential. If you space out your trips enough to let your brain fully recover.. you could actually have an even better time when taking less. Its not about how much you take, its more about your environment and mindset. You can for sure get burned out by large doses or frequent use.
I’ve never done molly, but i have seen about 80% of my friends start doing it at partys. They all did it all the time way more than they should have, after months of loving it each and every one of them came to the conclusion that it was shitty and now none of them will do it anymore.
@sech, I tried molly for the first time when I went to paradiso 2013. I didiny want to feel left out so I took it. It hit me within the first 45 minutes. Then I noticed something wasant right. I couldnt breathe. I felt as if I just threw uo and my throat was kind of swollen. Then my heart started raising like crazy I walked awat and started gaging and throwing up but nothing came out and it hurt. Then 1 minute passed and my boyfriend was really worried, I looked at him and then all of a sudden I felt soooooo good. It was amaizing. U feel everything. But I dnt think im evergoung to so it again. The next day my tounge and throat was kind of soar and as I would sleeo. My legs would cramp. U dnt get good enough sleep. Dnt do that drug anymore.
I took it for the first time this weekend. I never will again. The high itself was great. I have never felt so happy or at peace with myself and the world. It was also my first ever rave. The next day, I started coming down. First I thought I was going to throw up, then I got really depressed. I already have depression/bipolar issues, so it wasn’t good. I was in the same mindset I get in right before I get suicidal. I talked to a friend about how I was feeling, then I fell asleep. When I woke up again, I was feeling emotionally better, but very zombieish. I’m still not completely normal. I also tried acid that night, but I didn’t trip :( I will definitely try that again.
With shortcuts, the higher you get, the lower you will get afterwards. We take these things in order to take a peek into the other side, but however great it works, the lack of control during a peek makes it quite dangerous. I knew people years ago who dropped acid like candy until one day they had a trip into a place not so nice and happy. They never tripped again after that. I’m surly not saying don’t trip, but please be careful if you decide to.
“The Right Amount, of The Right Thing, At the Right Time, Can produce Enlightenment”
If all 3 of those things are not right, then the opposite effect can manifest. : )
I can totally relate to this. I had my first MDMA bomb 3 weeks ago, the dosage was probably a little on the large side for first use, about 200mg followed by another 150mg a few hours later. When it first hit I felt like I’d been hit by a train, maddest feeling ever, panicked, felt sick then ran out of the pub! My mate sat with me and calmed me down, he’d done it before and was also bombing with me, after a while I felt great and went back to join the party, then it hit me again, guessing my body was digesting another lump, same again but eventually everything was calm and I was having the time of my life. The next day I felt great even after only 2 hrs sleep, but oddly I was looking at my mate in a whole new light, couldn’t stop thinking about him, I told him and we’ve been seeing each other since, it’s been an amazing few weeks, my serotonin must have stayed sky high. Desperate to repeat the experience we arranged to do it again last week ( 3 weeks after the first time) Made smaller bombs this time, about 120mg, after an hour and a half it still hadn’t come up, so stupidly I took loads more, not even sure how much, rest of the night was pretty good, but nowhere near the same high I’d had previously. Next day I felt dreadful. Totally different to before but it eventually passed and I’ve been ok, until yesterday, 6 days after the last bomb I feel so sad, questioning my relationship with mate that I have completely fallen for, not questioning my feelings towards him but his towards me and feeling like I’m losing him, feel really fed up and worrying about the future and what’s going to become of me, nightmare! I’ve always dabbled with recreational drugs and this is possibly worst comedown I’ve had. As someone said earlier in the thread, I think moderation is key here! If this passes soon though, I’ve no real regrets this wonderful drug has made me realise the love of my life has been here all along!
@Caz1181, 350mg is a hefty dose, especially for a first time. You can only roll so hard, upping the dosage is just more likely to leave you with serotonin syndrome and dumpy comedown.
Most I’ve ever done was .3 in a night and I will not do that again, it was stupid. Since there seems to be a lack of safe practice around here I’m going to post this too http://rollsafe.org/
I don’t have bad molly hangovers anymore, just tired because I probably didn’t sleep much but still afterglowy. The magic is still there
Well you an I have had the same experience . This is how my first experience happened . I went over to my neighbor house (boyfriend) whatever . But he was like you want to get on this Molly with me and I was like Shure. Then I took the Molly . It took like an hour for it to start working but it felt like a spirit was going into my body Cause I started shaking and my eyes had rolled back then my body became really hot but i did not sweat then I was looking around and everything became really blurry but it was cool . Then my boyfriend and I decided to have sex it was the best sex I’ve had in my life then I tried to pick up my phone and get on fb but my hands was shaking so I couldn’t do anything eventually I did and I found myself looking at my sister page and getting emotional but I did not cry I was just so happy for her and told get life story from what I was there to see looking at then i was looking at how happy she is with him to my BF and stuff then eventually I went home and I had no intentions to sleep I was wide awake all day long . I even watched the sun come up. But I put in some music and I found my self wanting to dance so I was in my bed jamming . Then my throat became soar once I was finally off the Molly cause I did not drink enough water . Then I was starving but had no appetite so I forced myself to eat but after the next day I was perfectly fine . Just happy and in a loving mood . But IM going to stay away from that for a while but I love it
The symptoms you experience are normal. It’s a wonderful drug but it can exhaust your body. 2 of the 3 times I’ve tried it, I’ve had an amazing afterglow, the happy effects you experience even after the drug has stopped. The last time everything was quite neutral, I felt a bit sad but I think that was more because of the situation I was in. People talk a lot more about a comedown (the negative effects after) than about an afterglow, but I think that if you use it carefully and conscientious about the effects, you can create an afterglow yourself. But be sure you don’t overdo it. I do it once every few months to experience the little enlightenment I get from it. My perception of the world always changes afterwards.
Sounds like you had a similar experience to me, only I would say I never experienced the panic which you described.
It’s been 2-3 months since my first and only Molly experience and the afterglow still exists somewhat and I can’t imagine that it’s going to go away any time soon. If I’m feeling down, I just seek out the beauty in ordinary things which my Molly experience made me realize existed.
I am however, making the assumption that this afterglow is due to Molly, rather than the most intense psychedelic experience of my life, which occurred only the day after – so it could be that I’m confusing the lasting effects of two drugs.
I will also say that I’d be careful taking another dose within a month of the last experience though. I, personally, am very careful in terms of protecting my brain from any permanent damage and I have read that you should leave 3 months (to be entirely safe) between experiences, to avoid neurotoxin inhibition which will cause permanent, though arguably insignificant damage.
Enjoy yourself, but be safe!
My advice is to just let it go
I am telling you this from a personal experience,if I had the option to go again from my first time, I would do it once and stop.
Marcopolo said it ,when you do it once when you are feeling low and you are low on serotonin you will be apsolutely destroyed in mind and body.
To sumarize : Do it once and move on to other things with the experience and the new view on life that you got from it.