Money is Bad Mojo
Wow. Just wow.
Humans did just fine without money, that’s true. But how did they get things back then? By trading other things, and by killing eachother for it, or stealing it. There was just as much fighting (or even more) over possessions before money came around.
Money makes trading a whole lot simpler, and generally a lot more fair. Let’s say all you have that you can trade with is tomatoes. Now you’re gonna buy a tree or a dog, but you can’t afford a whole tree or a whole dog, meaning you could at best get a part of a dead one. Because you can’t save up the tomatoes, because they rot. Money doesn’t.
Money makes it simpler, easier, and sets a price standard.
You don’t need money to get by. No, not even in today’s society. Money makes it easier, but you don’t need it. And if you can’t hunt/gather to get your own needs met, then YOU have put yourself at other people’s mercy. YOU did, not the money.
Money cannot do anything, cannot control anything, because it’s just a made up concept. It has no will, no power, it can’t do anything.
Money doesn’t kill equality. Money is the same for everyone, and we all have the opportunities to make money. Most people rarely take these opportunities, but that’s their own decision, nobody else’s fault.
People CHOOSE to sell themselves for money, choose to slave away in factories and offices, wasting their time and energy for nickels and dimes, choose to let other people use them in exchange for money. It’s a choice they make. And if that’s not what they wanted, then it’s a fucking stupid choice.
Taking money out of the equation won’t change anything, because the problems don’t come from the money. The problems come from people.
And if you don’t like it, then go somewhere else where there is no money, where you can live in peace with your generous tribe.
If you just want to float along and passively receive, you have no right to make demans, you’ll have to take whatever shit they give you. That’s society. If you don’t like it, stop playing that game. You choose to live in a society like that.
Take some fucking responsibility.
That’s what’s missing in this world. If people were responsible, there would be no problems with money, or with society at all.
Some people have more than others, and that’s because we’ve earned it. We have all earned our place in this world, by our actions, our choices, if you don’t like where you’re going then stop and change course. The hobo and the CEO have both earned their place in this world. They’ve both worked for it, worked to get where they ended up.
I like money, it’s really practical.
Money is simply an empty symbol. It’s up to you to place a value on it.
You have a very compassionate mindset for the human race, but money or the elimination of money will not create the vision you see.
What good is it?
It can be good in a lot of ways. But the one that a lot of people forget or don’t think about in the first place is, you vote with it. You can fund changing the way things are with it.
Small scale and big scale. Big scale, pour a lot of money into whatever efforts you want. Support people you want to support. It’s an instrument of change–whether it be good or bad, it’s what it is.
Small scale–well there’s this really awesome concept of voting for what you believe in with your money.
For instance, the health food industry. The rise in the availability of organic and all natural products/food over the last decade. Sure, some of it is mislabeled because some companies do still suck, but the main thing is there’s so much of it available these days.
Why? Because a lot of people started to only buy those things, and were genuinely concerned about healthy eating. Food is something we buy or grow or find or slaughter. If we buy it, that’s a lot of money invested in what we eat. Years of investment by mass amounts of people are going to alert bigger businesses that their products have to keep up with an increasingly selective consumer.
Voila, we now have many organic and healthy options everywhere. Even former McDonald’s executives are launching an operation with a healthy fast food chain in coming months.
That’s just one example of what money is good for. Money is the equivalent to so many intangible things. And it can be powerful.
It can even change some things in a big way, from the ground up.
Pretty cool actually.
@dirukari3, Dude, youre totally right. Quick, give it all to me so I can rid of it for you!
You have made good points, but here is what I thought as I read your post:
It’s true that in some cases it was dog eat dog, but that was during expansion and colonizing when everyone wanted everything because no one technically owned it in agreement. In today’s age people are a lot more advanced and boundaries are set.
Hunting and gathering. You have to buy permits for hunting. Gathering is possible but just about all land owned by someone and they will call you out on it.
Money has no will but it definitely has power. We give it power as a majority. It is a made up concept that people put value in. Even if you don’t put value in it others do. So it is what, and it is all they will accept. Mercy comes from other people. You cannot choose it. It is cast upon you.
Money can’t control you, but it can control what you do legally.
Money does kill equality. If a person loves a job that pays less than another a job that a person also loves, why should it pay less when it is being done for the same reason. Yes the person chose the lower paying job, but should that person have to trade their happiness for more money?
I’m sorry i forgot a lot a prostitutes forced into prostitution chose that. Silly me. For those who do choose it, yes it is their choice, it is their only choice. It’s all they have left. Get a different job? Doesn’t pay enough to support a family. Go to college? Can’t afford it.
The problems do come from people, with the power given from money.
Live in a tribe, don’t have the money for the plane/ship/train. Well shit. What do.
@dirukari3, Economically speaking, no, things don’t have equal value. You wouldn’t trade a horse for a raspberry, would you? Or a computer for a bubble gum?
You think it started during expansion? What the hell? It was like that from the beginning, humans evolved among all the other animals, it was all about survival, jungle law, dog eat dog. And it never stopped, it’s still that way, as it always has been. It’s the human way.
You don’t have to buy permits for hunting, you don’t have to follow other people’s rules. Sure it makes it easier to keep them off your back, but you don’t fucking have to. Same goes for gathering. Obedience is a FUCKING CHOICE.
Money doesn’t have power at all. Sure people put value in it, and do all sorts of fucked up shit for it, but that’s their own decision, not the money’s.
Jobs are not made for enjoyment, jobs are made to fucking get things done. And how much a job pays is determined by the person OFFERING the job. Of course this person has to keep wages interesting for the workers, but other than that they can do whatever they want. After all, it’s THEIR business, they’re the ones offering the opportunities.
Getting a job is a CHOICE. And if you choose to have a job, you also choose the terms and conditions, and you put yourself at the mercy of your employer.
If having a job means trading your happiness for bullshit money, and you value happiness higher than money, then having a job is a really dumb choice.
It seems you also forgot that those people who are forced into doing stuff they don’t want… always have the option to escape, fight back, or a thousand other things that could get them out of there. Yet they don’t do any of that. That’s a choice.
Money doesn’t give power to people. People give imaginary power to money. And as a result, whoever has most of it somehow has power over them. It’s a strange game, but it was invented for a reason. And just like you say, the majority favour these rules.
You can live tribally anywhere, although it is of course more practical to not do it in a city.
Well, you obviously have a thing for blame and excuses, so why not just keep doing that? Or, yknow, stop making up a bunch of bullshit to whine about and TAKE ACTION.
Your problems don’t come from money or anything like that, they come from within yourself. Same goes for everyone else.
That’s why your economy sucks. It’s just a result of your choices.
I don`t believe that the problem is money, but greed.
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