Mooji’s Question

I am the presence watching a part of me (physical body) disappear.

@martijn, you asking this for discussion or for us to question ourselves?

Obviously I haven’t done enough psychedelics to ponder this properly Haha :D
I have a very boring “rational” idea of this, I think that I think of myself, as a result of my ability to understand the connection between things in the world, you could argue that nothing is certain and that all is relative, but that doesen’t really take you anywhere, now does it?
I like to think that the connections between things describe our world, and thus the fact that i can think of myself is just me creating an image/idea of myself, separate from myself. as a mental clone of myself, or conceptualization as mentioned by Mikey W. I don’t see any reason to “make up” an external viewer, because nothing really tells me that there is a such. So untill I am given a hint that this thing exists, be it a physical or mental experience under the influence or sober, I wont think of it as reality. This is also why I am not religious.

However it makes a lot of historical sense to acknowledge one’s limitations in terms of observation and understanding. E.g. we thought the earth was flat because that scale was to grand for us to realize tthe curvature of it. In the same way Einstein through abstract thoughts logically deducted adn prooved that spce is not defined through euclidean space and geometry but rather hyperbolic or non-euclidean, something that is still being researched, this idea comes from intricate ideas rather than our simple observation, because we seem to be able to proove that the total sum of the angles in a triangle is 180 degrees, but again it’s a matter of scale, the difference is on a too large scale for us to notice visually and so it appears that the world is different than it truly is. – in other words, I haven’t seen it so I don’t assume that it’s there, but I don’t assume that it isn’t because i haven’t seen that it is not there etc.