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I live in Miami, Florida and can’t really seem to connect to much of anyone. Just returning from my trip to New York, I know there and here are places I never want to live, and made me realize how blind I was; every day Miami becomes more like New York City, the trees are razed and skyscrapers built in their place, the air is getting progressively filthier, artificial light and concrete all the more inescapable… I just realized that I wouldn’t want to live in NYC for anything and that the same applies to Miami. The city is insufferable and I found myself yearning for the feel of the earth between my toes and stricken with sadness by the endless concrete. I’ve lived a quarter of my life here in Florida and it’s long overdue for change. I go to school right now, community college, and there is a stagnant culture of unintellectualism and apathy, it is essentially high school part two, and the professors tailor the classes to suit the masses. That is, they try to get you out of their classes with the highest grade possible covering bullet points and never really going in depth on things. I hate it; I have basic studies blues. I just feel trapped and kind of want to just drop out and move on, and mind, body, soul, for whatever reason, is calling me to California. I guess I should research more on where I’d want to live there. I wouldn’t spend my whole life there, but I know that it will lead me in the right direction. People there are more health conscious, there are more farms, I love the weather, and have tapped into my intrinsic human affinity for nature and there is plenty of it there. People at large are more aware of the detrimental effects of GMO’s, etc. etc.. I’m exhausted physically, spiritually, and mentally as I write this and want to just get away, but I don’t know if I have the skill set to survive on my own. I’m pressured to go to school by the family, but institutionalized learning is such a drag. Florida’s not the place for me and I don’t know, I go to a crappy school due to being manhandled into going there by my parents, that and their divorce and the impact it had on finances, I just, Heh…

Thoughts/comments/advice/wisdom?

ps. apologies; I’m writing this as I’m sleep deprived and still haven’t recovered from my trip…

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i live in florida also and want to leave BADLY!! florida is not what it use to be, atleast to me it’s not. I to would like to experience the cali way of living : )

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Ashley B (@ashtraybroom)1 year ago ago

I feel the urgency of your OP really strongly. Back in college/university days (now 24) I was pressured heavily by family to get a degree in some dreary, shallow and meaningless field. I ended up dropping out, operating a business but later finishing the degree as a commitment to myself to be better at seeing things out. In the end it didn’t mean shit, and I can share that outside of strict disciplines with governing bodies controlling practice like medicine and law (though I believe these will gradually unravel in the coming decades, giving way to radical self-reliance, removal of bullshit control mechanisms and stronger communities), there is no point going to school unless it means a lot to you.

As an Australian traveling the US at present, and having spent the best part of a month in California (it’s all you dream of and more) before jetting over to Hawaii, I believe that you should definitely fly over and go for it. If you make a firm commitment to yourself to follow your mind, heart and gut by…
1) Showing up courageously.
2) Listening intently to the wisdom of others.
3) Seizing opportunity.
4) Letting go of trying to control the external environment…

You cannot fail. Without living true to yourself you cannot give your highest good to others. Your family will NEVER know you better than you know yourself. Live your dreams – nobody else can.

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maia (@papaya23)1 year ago ago

You should come to northern California (its better than socal)! I live here and there are a lot of people who care about the environment, being outdoors, health, etc. You are right about the great weather and beautiful nature. I really like living in Cali. But you should also realize that the problems you find in your hometown you will find anywhere. It is definitely possible that you will be happier here, but don’t think that we don’t have our fair share of apathetic people and big cities.

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@ashtraybroom, That’s what I’ve been feeling; I kind of said ‘fuck it’ when I was in New York and bought a bus ticket to Woodstock and the universe seemed to smile at me as I was following my bliss and a lot of people helped me out along the way, it was quite surreal.

I truly think you’re right. And know it’s not a matter of whether or not to but a matter of when. I guess I should begin researching and finding out what part in California I’m going to live and how I’m going to go about doing it.

Which part of California did you visit?

@papaya23, So long as I have my woods nearby and all around! I know that no place is without its flaws but a healthier environment equates to healthier people and on average people are more in touch and aware than people over here. Care to share experiences about living in California and have any recommendations or things to look out for, take note of, maybe things that most people wouldn’t see/know from visiting or living there briefly?

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@creativenik, Everything is a reflection of the environment they live in, and South Florida is largely fake, with all its Queens Palms & Banyan trees and other exotic plant species brought in to dry up the land; it’s fake and so to are the people. What part of Florida do you live in?

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

Lake Merritt ~ Oakland, Calif. the place to fucking BE.

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@Shalalanovala, I’m in broward. I’ve lived here all my life, I was born in palm beach and when I was growing up Florida had culture, it stood out. Now it’s all fake people, fake boobs, everyone’s a damn party promoter lol

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Megan (@fearlessldr)1 year ago ago

The west is the best, duh

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Anonymous (@)1 year ago ago

I live in Hawaii and Cali is calling me as well

If not only to appreciate my home more so, but to grow in opportunity and experience; out of my comfort zone but not to the point where I will end up hating myself and everyone around me (Should I move anywhere on the East Coast, god forbid)

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iXfactor (@Xtine)1 year ago ago

I just did your story. I too was a community college kid, born and raised in New Jersey (truly guido-ville) and literally started buggin out about living in a suburban robotic lifestyle so I left. Sold my car, had a yardsale, gone in a week. I work for a nationwide company and transferred locations, so I highly recommend having a job or some means of finance right from the start. I’ve never been happier, its like instant metamorphosis when you start fresh– you can be who want to be because you’re free from the ideas/prejudices people such as friends and family hold of you. Dream it achieve it!

“Adventure may hurt you; but monotony will kill you”

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Richard (@canadamagic)1 year ago ago

Better yet, come to Canada! I live here in Kelowna, British Columbia, which is a few hour drive from Vancouver and the city is amazing. The people here are open minded and the culture is a melting pot of diversity. The community is progressive and always evolving and really easy to connect with. I used to live in Raleigh N.C and moved up here and I fell in love with it. The weather here isn’t something to be afraid of, in the summers it gets up to the mid 90′s and in winter it may only snow half a foot in the city (which for Canada is good). Kelowna is located in the Okanagan Valley which has some of the greatest hiking, orchards, and wineries in the world. The city sits with a few other cities on a massive lake that has beaches a few minutes away that are considered the nicest beaches in Canada. Big White is a ski resort 45 minutes away that is rated in the top 5 in the world and Whistler is about 2 hours from here! Plus it helps that Kelowna is one of the top Mary Jane distributers in North America and the “produce” from B.C is known worldwide. Plus the free healthcare is a huge plus!
But aside from sounding like a spokesman maybe considering living outside of the U.S wouldn’t be a bad idea…?

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Epiphileon (@Epiphileon)1 year ago ago

Maybe you could look into going to Humboldt University, maybe. I’d caution you about expecting too much out of Cali though,, definitely stay out of any of the big cities. I lived in the SF Bay Area for 20 or so years, and brother, I’ll tell you, the cops there are out of hand. By the way, ever been in a major earthquake? It is something to think about. I definitely would not think of going any further south than Humboldt, and would much more highly recommend Oregon.
I hear what you’re saying about the culture of junior colleges, it is pretty much a joke but, that doesn’t mean you can’t get a lot of use out of it. Ignore the teenyboppers, take a good general education mix of classes, definitely take English 101 and 102, and really apply yourself to them, you wouldn’t believe how much being able to write well will effect your ability to get a good job. The same is true for Communication classes, they were speech 101, and 102 when I went, 101 is public speaking, which is a great ability to have, and 102 should be something like “Interpersonal Communication”, that was one of the most valuable courses I took in five years of college. The best thing I can tell you about teachers at JCs is the best ones, are probably the ones you hear most people complaining about. Good Luck.

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

@Epiphileon, bay area. public transportation.lots of shit to see.lots of cool people to meet. Easy to get around. easy to be your own person.

OPD were legit. SFPD are cool to.

~lol earthquake’s.

~lots of education opportunities, plus lots of alternative route’s of life plus people pursuing them to connect with.

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

CHP are the boy scouts.

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Epiphileon (@Epiphileon)1 year ago ago

@josephm, Yea SF Ive heard is fairly cool, I only ever got to visit there though, never lived there, however, the cops in Palo Alto, Sunnyvale, San Jose, and Mountain View, are, I can tell you from personal experience, really scary, and dangerous to your freedom. In places like Los Altos, don’t dare be looking out of place, or be prepared to be harassed.
I.m curious, as it appears you think earthquakes are a laughing matter, how long have you lived there, and were you in the Loma Prieta earthquake of 1989?

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

well i walked around mountain view/los altos/palo alto on drugs all the time(for a year while i dated someone there)(lastyear). the higher income places in southern bay such as what you are saying hold a higher social standard(be civil) and most of the time I look like a hippy. no problems.

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

@Epiphileon, i bet most of the people using this site were not born before 1989, kind of irrelevant.

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Epiphileon (@Epiphileon)1 year ago ago

@josephm, Well it seems to me relevant to why you think earthquakes are a laughing matter, I think if you had been in that one, you’d have a different opinion. Prior to that one, I’d been in a few, and actually thought they were pretty trippy. Loma Prieta was not, it was devastating and deadly, and relatively mild compared to what can be expected from the San Andreas.
I do however wonder at the relevancy of age, do you seriously think only people born after 1989 get high? Or that the perspective of people older than that is irrelevant? We are all sojourners on the path of life, freethinking minds no matter which direction they are in relative to to ones own position on that path, are valuable resources.

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josephm (@josephm)1 year ago ago

@Epiphileon, people are going to heed their call to california regardless of a potential natural disaster that could be happening through any element on any geographical location on this planet

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@Xtine, And monotony is sinking it’s dagger each day deeper into my heart living here. And heh, I would love to start my own business, online, though trying to figure out what exactly I’d like to sell. I just purchased Timothy Ferris’s “Four Hour Work Week”. I’m seriously considering dropping out, I don’t, school just isn’t right for me and is draining my energy and staining my soul.

@canadamagic, hahaha you do but you’ve made it sound quite enticing…

@Epiphileon, I agree with your take on teachers, but maybe I could just take classes outside college and on my own? Taking a look at Humboldt right now.

@josephm, While I wouldn’t say that it’s irrelevant because I wasn’t born before 1989, it’s [earthquakes] definitely not something that is in any way affecting my decision, for better or worse, not to steer this thread off topic.

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Stockton has a public bad rep. I came here two years ago and found the progressive people and activities. 15 years ago I lived in Santa Cruz. Now it’s so different; I re-visited it and SF, Oakland, Berkley, etc. Change has happened, Stockton is the center of agriculture and it’s rep is so improving. Inside the city is the Delta that connects to the shipping channel to SF. Many waterways within the city, many wonderful old trees line streets like tunnels of strong trunks and full branches of leaves, enclosing the streets, and then there’s the love of colorful flowers/plants. Granted it does not have all the “coolness” of the others, but is in close proximity to them and it’s Cheaper to live here.

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SK Waller (@skwaller)1 year ago ago

I’m a native Californian, hailing from the Santa Ynez Valley wine country. I’ve been sort of stuck in Oklahoma for the past 13 years and want to return home. It is in fact my main ambition right now. What I’ve come to realize is that my time here in OK was what I needed spiritually, for a lot of complicated reasons. This have all sorted themselves how now and I’m ready to leave, grateful for what I’ve learned here. I’ve lived a lot of places on this planet, but the Santa Ynez Valley always calls me to return.

Best of everything to you!

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Alan James (@nobleheart)1 year ago ago

I’ve lived in SoCal for 22 years, (that’s my entire life.) I’ve jumped around, living, from the deserts to the beaches to the middle of the city’s to the middle of NOWHERE, and while i have enjoyed it, i long for some green and some forest! The grass is always greener on the other side, true, except i currently live in Downtown Los Angeles, and there is no grass, it’s all concrete… and the only stars you’ll see in LA are on the floors of Hollywood.

So it depends on what you want. If you want to be a city kid and like the fast pace 24/7 lifestyle, then Los Angeles is great. If you want suburbia, venture out a little further from the city to find it. Venice, Long Beach, Santa Monica, Ventura, Santa Barbra, Malibu, etc; Are all great places for hippy beach living.
I want to move to Northern California to be closer to nature,

But it’s whatever you want. I’m sure you’ll like it here. I wouldn’t want to live anywhere else in America other than California :)

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TheSkaFish (@theskafish)1 year ago ago

This might be a silly question but is there anyplace at all in Hawaii or California that is neither insanely expensive nor ghetto? Is there any place in those two states for a regular guy?

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@josephm, Oakland is by far my favorite place I’ve ever spent an extended period of time in.

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