My UFO Experience
Someone uploaded this video to HE and I watched it today, It’s Niel DeGrasse, I had never considered the last point he talks about on this video (or at least not in that way) and sounds like a perfect explanation of why an alien civilization wouldn’t bother on visiting us, if they haven’t already…
@danfontaine, That is a big thing that S.E.T.I (the Search for Extra-Terestrial Intelligence) type organizations are looking for, star systems that have stars similar to ours (yellow/orange/red dwarf) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
When a planet passes between us and its star it is percievable, including size http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extrasolar_planet and gravity distortions are detectable in the star itself.
@manimal, If you’re able to negate all possibility of intelligent life throughout the whole universe why is it irrational for somebody to assume life exists elsewhere? Belief man, it’s all belief.
You, for example, once stated that you thoroughly believe you’re not going die. I jokingly, to mess with you, said “eh nah you’ll die too”…to which you asked me why I would spread such a negative viewpoint across to others or even hold to that belief that we all die.
Living forever is a radical (and fun) idea but where’s the proof? Why would you live forever when seemingly everything else dies?
There is proof of life in space. Is it intelligent life? No but it is life. COULD there be intelligent life? MAYBE there could. Why do I say maybe? I say maybe for this reason – I say it simply because we are here. Now, does this make it true? No it makes it a belief. Frankly, it is what it is and finding any form of life in the universe is a ‘good sign’ for the argument of the possibility of intelligent life SOMEWHERE.
I just find it funny how a person can state that he/she believes they will live forever (when nobody else has and there is no concrete evidence whatsoever for this) but at the same time unable to accept there may be some possibility that even intelligent life itself even exists somewhere else (even though life, be it small, has been found).
Belief, it is all belief.
I think I had a UFO experience not exactly sure, but I was walking down the street heading home one day and I happened to look in the sky. I saw a bright light hovering not far up from a house, then a few seconds later it was gone. (I believe I blinked and it was gone?) To this day I don’t know if it was a real experience or not, but I never hallucinated about anything in my life and I never used drugs, so it’s a bit of credibility to myself that this was probably real.
on Sunday night driving home around 12:30am I saw this red light in the sky.. at first I thought it was mars or some really bright star.. then it grew a little bit bigger.. then faded away in a instant.
Am i the only person who wouldn’t go running around saying “aliens!!!”
@shbarton, I’m not doubting your story at all, UFO’s have been spotted all over the world, by millions of people. But when you take into account that almost all sightings (At least here in the United States, I have little geographical knowledge of Australia) are near military bases, it’s not hard to put 2+2 together. The other problem I have believing that UFO’s are aliens is the fact that, well, the universe is really fucking big. There’s not really any way to comprehend how large it is. So to say that a technologically advanced species that has presumably mastered faster-than-light travel, came to Earth, to what? Fly around in the sky? The odds of any other species in the universe even FINDING Earth is astronomical (See what I did there? :D). I have absolutely zero doubt that aliens exist somewhere out there. But I do doubt that any of them have ever been to or found Earth. Likely if they did, we would never have any clue or hint to their existence. Remember, technology and all that.
All “UFO sightings” are from man-made aircraft.
Let me explain why I believe this;
We had the stealth bomber years before it came out, and I’m pretty sure we have some insane shit happening now. To the OP: Are you near an airport?
What better place to test fly anything other than in the desert, near the airport?
Why there isn’t aliens visitung us:
There may be ways to get around it, worm holes, and so forth, but in reality – there does not seem to be a way to travel faster than the speed of light, and if we can’t surpass that, contacting other life forms isn’t going to be a possibility unless we dedicate hundreds if not thousands of generations aboard some spacecraft to make the distant travel… Hopefully we have fusion by then.
If you could travel 1000 times the speed of light it would take you 70 years to get half way across our galaxy. If you have a book with each star in our galaxy in it and spent 1 second looking at each star, it would take you 10,000 years to complete the book. (some size ideas about our galaxy)
@trek79, Beautiful shit
I agree with your thoughts on the existence of aliens, but why the fuck would a couple of strange lights in the sky be a UFO? if I had a nickle for every time a person swears to have seen a UFO and the discovers it was a fucking lamppost or a planet, or whatever – point is, you have 0 reason to believe it’s a UFO (well in the practical meaning of the word, not the actual) So why discuss it untill you have some sort of solid argument as to what the hell makes it an alien crafted object?
@spaceghost, Trying to convince people? Lol.
If I was an alien, why would I say aliens probably aren’t real? That would mean denying my own existence. And it would also be retarded, seeing how I would have (be) proof of the opposite.
I am not an alien. I am not a mithria/antichrist. I am not Bashar. I am not a robot. And I am not any of the other crazy shit HEthens seem to think I am.
@boribori90, Amazing lights doing tricks? Wow, must be aliens….
In my town there’s frequently weird lights that look almost like stars, moving around in the sky, and those are from the spotlights on the concert hall.
How would aliens mine the asteroids and planets if they had no way to reach them?
Water is not a miracle, it’s just a combination of two common, basic gases. It’s no wonder it’s all over the place.
There’s nothing condescending about what I say. The fact still remains, if there are hyper-intelligent lifeforms trekking through the universe, we’re about as interesting to them as piss in the Mississippi is to us. We’re just a fart in space in comparison.
“So, if seeing is believing, then plenty of people have plenty of reason to believe. Whether they’re actually E.T? I don’t know, but that’s what it looks like to me. What do you think they are?”
Reason to believe? Not really. An unknown phenomenon is not evidence of anything known or thought-to-be-known. The only thing proven by something strange going on… is that something strange is going on.
“What it looks like to me” is not about seeing, it’s about thinking. PROJECTING. It doesn’t really look like that, it’s what you turn it into. I could look at an orange in the street and say “looks like someone robbed the orange truck and ran for the woods, and accidentally dropped an orange right here.” That does not mean it is so, that does not mean it really looks anything like it, just that I like to think that way.
What do I think those lights are? Well… lights. What else? Lights are lights.
Why is it so hard for you to accept that you don’t know what you don’t know, that there’s no reason to fill in the blanks with projections, to conjure an “answer” from imagination.
I want to know how things really are. That means I must not jump conclusions or project weird theories. Because doing so prevents the truth from coming through.
If you would rather imagine than know, then by all means do so. Just realize that spreading your illusions can be very harmful to other people’s minds.
You don’t know what you don’t know.
What do you want more?
“You don’t know what you don’t know.
If sense is reality, what of the orchestration between them? Surely the ego/mind plays a vital role in accurate sensation.
@manimal, lol, what I love about your responses are how you claim to think you know so much about how the world and universe works, yet I can tell you barely know how to even communicate with a single person.
As far as “why would they come to see us”, while all your restrictions are valid.. you fail to understand how minds work. “If they’re intelligent, there’s nothing of value here for them.” -If humans were capable of travelling long interstellar distances, they would look for radio signals and all other “man-made” so to speak signals, and follow it. Even if they found out that a bacteria was alive on a very distant planet, they would go to it to research it. Did you already forget that we spent billions to go to Mars knowing we wont find anything that specs of potential past life? So how can you say aliens wouldnt visit us, knowing we arent as intelligent as them? If there are aliens within a certain calculable distance, and they are made of are awareness AND have the capabilities of travelling to us, they would 100% do it, even if we are just an anthill to them.
The fact that you or anyone else cant understand this simple fact boggles my mind.
@yoinkie, Antagonistic as usual, I see.
I don’t know how to communicate? Haha, that’s funny. Communication is what I do, it’s my specialty, and it’s working pretty damn well.
I don’t understand how the mind works? Oh cuz it’s not like I have a psychological education and lots of experience…. It’s not like I succesfully sort my own and other people’s minds out proffessionally… And it’s not like they keep coming back for more help… And it’s not like I’ve learned from some of the greatest masters of mindstuff and spirituality or anything…
What makes you think you know better than I do? Hmm?
As if that wasn’t enough, you gotta realize that a highly developed superhuman mind, one that developed in a completely different place, under completely different conditions, as in alien visitors’ minds… would not be like your mind.
And if their technology is so highly developed, they probably wouldn’t even remember that there ever was such a thing as radio signals. If I talked about birch horn signals, would you even know what I was talking about? Hmm?
In a few hundred years, that’s probably true for radio as well. And when you talk about the long-ass type that people usually suggest would be required to develop space travel and such… radio will be forgotten by then.
And what makes you so sure those aliens ever discovered or used radio? Seriously, it is extremely unlikely that another civilization would come up with the same things as ours has. Where we had radio, they may have had something completely different.
Some (NOT ALL) people would go far away to examine some bacteria. This doesn’t imply that another intelligent life form would. Especially not one that’s much more developed than us and very different from us.
We spent millions to go to Mars? I didn’t. Did you?
” If there are aliens within a certain calculable distance, and they are made of are awareness AND have the capabilities of travelling to us,”
You lost me halfway through, with those confusing broken sentences and crazy grammatical errors.
They would 100% do it? That’s another one of your crazy claims. You don’t know that, you’re just making shit up.
The fact that you and most other people don’t think things through before jumping conclusions and spewing bullshit is very amusing.
Stop thinking you know a bunch of shit you don’t. It’s amusing, yes, but also very, VERY distasteful and an eyesore.
I believe in aliens or some other form of species it is very egotistical as human beings which we are to believe that we are the only living beings in this universe. I mean compared to what other possible beings there might be out there and how futuristic they might me we may only be little ants compared. I have heard while talking with other people that aliens might have already been among us only now becoming more visible i mean if they traveled light years maybe further you have to think that they probably have the technology to become invisible. Maybe they are trying to become more visible for a reason i suggest going to youtube and looking into crop circles (crazy) I know but dont brush them off i mean seriously we dont have the technology to be making crop circles like that and the measurements are too perfect even the robotics we have today have a 99.99% chance of imperfections. So then are those circles perfect.
Everyone that is arguing that there IS definitively aliens that visit us, you are basing your opinion on things that can’t be studied and that there is no actual proof of. Yes the likely hood of alien life is very probable, but how likely is it to travel such distances and why repeatedly visit us? It is all just speculation.
@chodebalm No nothing like that video- (i wish though) they were far less bright and a lot closer and smaller.
Like i said before, i think it’s near stupidity to assume that we are the only life in our universe.
@manimal i never said i saw an alien, i chose the words UFO for a reason. The implication is that they are indeed ‘aliens’ is just inherent from a countless other stories….
With regards to the anthill you have a very very good point. Neil de grasse tyson (video linked above) compared alien life and their intelligence to humans and chimps. Whilst we share 99% of our DNA with chimps, we can do a shit load more than they ever could. So what if our DNA was 1% different to that of an alien, but we are the chimps and they are the humans? Their capabilities would dwarf ours immensely.
The speed of light is the universal speed limit… but who’s to say a linear, direct approach to travelling across the universe is how ‘aliens’ would do it? Who’s to say that travelling through a wormhole or anything of the sort is impossible? We do not know at the moment, we dont have the capabilities. But who know’s it could indeed be possible!
“has anyone had any experiences like this?” I was asking HE, not the entire population and their ancestors. Dont take things so literally
So wishing on a shooting star is somewhat closed minded and childish… I’m a pretty smart/educated guy- i still touch wood to avoid a jinx and i have to have the volume on a nice number- it’s what makes us human!
@josephm I dont think it was a hallucination… the friend i was with saw it as well.
Just to reiterate what @ladyartemis said about crop circles
Everyone should have a look at some of the videos on them on youtube… i used to by very skeptical. After seeing some of them and knowing the time it would have taken for the to have been made and bla bla bla… it’s quite bizarre.
One of the video’s talks about the crop that had beenaffected in the crop circle, and how there were weird radiation readings recorded The coolest thing in my view was that the crop that was affected proceeded to grow faster and appeared more healthy when compared to the unaffected crop.
Check out this video on faking UFO’s
It has 300,000 views. Well I do believe there is some other life (if you could call it that) out there. I think the odds are 10^100 (that’s a googol) times better that you’re just being trolled by me or one of the other 300,00 viewers
@ojai, “There is proof of life in space”
@shbarton, While the probability of aliens in our universe are extremely high. The probability that the lights you saw in the sky that night were aliens are extremely extremely low.
1) You only saw lights in the sky and you assumed it was a UFO it seems like a huge stretch of the imagination to make such an inference from just that
2) Just because an organism has been in the universe a very long time doesn’t mean they evolve to have intelligence in the way we see it, (E.g Plants have been here long before animals and they can’t even walk) every organism adapts to suit their environment evolution isn’t linear
3) Wouldn’t they search for life closer to where they live like we did by going to mars
@moonglade, As i said before, a UFO is an unidentified flying object. If i saw a pizza flying by, and i didnt know it were a pizza lets say, i could label it as the same thing!
The lights are what i saw though!
If you keep feeding the man he will troll you like an animal..Good points, but not actually good points. I have a feeling @manimal, will question me saying, of what points do you speak?, but he knows full in well what I’m talking about, i will take a quote from one of yours ” You don’t know, What you don’t know.” and @manimal, quite frankly i thought you had relevant input into these threads, but i can see You’re more interested in flexing your knowledge and demeaning others…But hey it’s ok, because you do a really good job at it.
@manimal, Okay haha the last part made me chuckle a bit.
It’s obvious that you possess solid rhetorical skills, and while I admire your professed realism on the matter, is the idea of intelligent life from other planets really so bizarre?
“There’s nothing condescending about what I say. The fact still remains, if there are hyper-intelligent lifeforms trekking through the universe, we’re about as interesting to them as piss in the Mississippi is to us. We’re just a fart in space in comparison.
-By “condescending,” I mean two things: One is telling us/the audience that our views are idiotic while implying yours are infallible. You’re a human too, buddy. Let’s relax here. Memento Mori and all that jazz.
yadayadayada Nothing personal, but I really don’t care to answer all those why questions. This tread is more of a “what”/”whether” issue.
Basically, here’s my side of the issue:
So that’s what I know about UFOs.
What you say about projection is interesting, though. Thanks for the new perspective.
AAAAND I’m done. Goodnight everyone. Say no to probes.
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