My UFO Experience

@danfontaine, That is a big thing that S.E.T.I (the Search for Extra-Terestrial Intelligence) type organizations are looking for, star systems that have stars similar to ours (yellow/orange/red dwarf) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun
Another thing is that there are stars similar in many ways but their radioactive output is vastly different, on levels deadly to us and life as we know it.
They are also looking for stars like this that have planets in a relative orbit to Earth in accord to energy output of the star and distance of effect of that energy. Planets that are big enough to have tectonic plates but not so big that their gravity would crush life as we know it.
But our idea of what conditions life can possibly exist in is generally small but scientifically large. The idea that places in our own system may support life have been entertained http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(moon) that a molten core may provide the conditions for aquatic life to spawn. Also life in extreme situations like volcanic and steam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrothermal_vent and high pressures http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_sea and space bacteria http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panspermia

@manimal, If you’re able to negate all possibility of intelligent life throughout the whole universe why is it irrational for somebody to assume life exists elsewhere? Belief man, it’s all belief.

You, for example, once stated that you thoroughly believe you’re not going die. I jokingly, to mess with you, said “eh nah you’ll die too”…to which you asked me why I would spread such a negative viewpoint across to others or even hold to that belief that we all die.

Living forever is a radical (and fun) idea but where’s the proof? Why would you live forever when seemingly everything else dies?

There is proof of life in space. Is it intelligent life? No but it is life. COULD there be intelligent life? MAYBE there could. Why do I say maybe? I say maybe for this reason – I say it simply because we are here. Now, does this make it true? No it makes it a belief. Frankly, it is what it is and finding any form of life in the universe is a ‘good sign’ for the argument of the possibility of intelligent life SOMEWHERE.

I just find it funny how a person can state that he/she believes they will live forever (when nobody else has and there is no concrete evidence whatsoever for this) but at the same time unable to accept there may be some possibility that even intelligent life itself even exists somewhere else (even though life, be it small, has been found).

Belief, it is all belief.

on Sunday night driving home around 12:30am I saw this red light in the sky.. at first I thought it was mars or some really bright star.. then it grew a little bit bigger.. then faded away in a instant.

Am i the only person who wouldn’t go running around saying “aliens!!!”

apparently so.

All “UFO sightings” are from man-made aircraft.

Let me explain why I believe this;
The technology we have available to us is far surpassed what we know right now. The top-secret projects around the world, including the US must be incredible. Look up “The Rainbow” project – this was from the 40′s. Who knows if it is true or not.

We had the stealth bomber years before it came out, and I’m pretty sure we have some insane shit happening now. To the OP: Are you near an airport?

What better place to test fly anything other than in the desert, near the airport?

Why there isn’t aliens visitung us:
The “cosmic speed limit”.

There may be ways to get around it, worm holes, and so forth, but in reality – there does not seem to be a way to travel faster than the speed of light, and if we can’t surpass that, contacting other life forms isn’t going to be a possibility unless we dedicate hundreds if not thousands of generations aboard some spacecraft to make the distant travel… Hopefully we have fusion by then.

@trek79, Beautiful shit

@spaceghost, Trying to convince people? Lol.
I’m just keeping it real and bringing some logic.

If I was an alien, why would I say aliens probably aren’t real? That would mean denying my own existence. And it would also be retarded, seeing how I would have (be) proof of the opposite.

I am not an alien. I am not a mithria/antichrist. I am not Bashar. I am not a robot. And I am not any of the other crazy shit HEthens seem to think I am.
I am just a manimal.

@boribori90, Amazing lights doing tricks? Wow, must be aliens….
Ever heard of a disco ball or a lazer haha?

In my town there’s frequently weird lights that look almost like stars, moving around in the sky, and those are from the spotlights on the concert hall.
There’s also airplanes and satellites flying all over the world all the time, those have lights on them as well.

How would aliens mine the asteroids and planets if they had no way to reach them?
Why would a strife for survival or competition bring them to our planet, of all the billions and… billions of planets to choose from? Hmm?
And why would they want to explore us, if there’s so many other aliens to explore? Hmm?

Water is not a miracle, it’s just a combination of two common, basic gases. It’s no wonder it’s all over the place.
Sure it could freeze and melt, even evaporate, how is that a big deal? It takes a lot more than water for life to have a chance.
Science knows for a fact that there’s a lot more conditions required. And the most likely scenario is that there’s a few metric shitloads of other required conditions that we haven’t found out yet.

There’s nothing condescending about what I say. The fact still remains, if there are hyper-intelligent lifeforms trekking through the universe, we’re about as interesting to them as piss in the Mississippi is to us. We’re just a fart in space in comparison.
And if E.T.s were so common like you say, that means they are in the audience. It’s interesting how you keep the two apart… why is that? Hmm….

“So, if seeing is believing, then plenty of people have plenty of reason to believe. Whether they’re actually E.T? I don’t know, but that’s what it looks like to me. What do you think they are?”

Reason to believe? Not really. An unknown phenomenon is not evidence of anything known or thought-to-be-known. The only thing proven by something strange going on… is that something strange is going on.

“What it looks like to me” is not about seeing, it’s about thinking. PROJECTING. It doesn’t really look like that, it’s what you turn it into. I could look at an orange in the street and say “looks like someone robbed the orange truck and ran for the woods, and accidentally dropped an orange right here.” That does not mean it is so, that does not mean it really looks anything like it, just that I like to think that way.

What do I think those lights are? Well… lights. What else? Lights are lights.
I could come up with all sorts of theories, but that doesn’t mean there’s anything supporting those theories, other than my own imagination.
I don’t know what I don’t know, and I am aware of that and have no problem accepting it, I feel no need to fill in the blanks with nonsense. I recognize that there are blanks, and I’m ok with that.
I’d rather look for a proper answer than make someshit up. Or yknow, simply not give a damn and keep doing my thing, regardless of seeing things that I can’t explain.

Why is it so hard for you to accept that you don’t know what you don’t know, that there’s no reason to fill in the blanks with projections, to conjure an “answer” from imagination.

I want to know how things really are. That means I must not jump conclusions or project weird theories. Because doing so prevents the truth from coming through.

If you would rather imagine than know, then by all means do so. Just realize that spreading your illusions can be very harmful to other people’s minds.
And realize that what you’re doing is closing your mind.

You don’t know what you don’t know.
Believe in what you can see.
Only the mind is capable of lies.
See with your eyes, hear with your ears, smell with your nose, feel with your skin, taste with your mouth, and leave your imagination and ego out of it.
Because they are only capable of projections and illusions.
Your senses are reality, the world outside your mind is reality, it cannot ever lie, it is always as factual as anything can be.
Mind is not reality.

What do you want more?

Knowledge…

…or…

…faith?

@manimal, lol, what I love about your responses are how you claim to think you know so much about how the world and universe works, yet I can tell you barely know how to even communicate with a single person.

As far as “why would they come to see us”, while all your restrictions are valid.. you fail to understand how minds work. “If they’re intelligent, there’s nothing of value here for them.” -If humans were capable of travelling long interstellar distances, they would look for radio signals and all other “man-made” so to speak signals, and follow it. Even if they found out that a bacteria was alive on a very distant planet, they would go to it to research it. Did you already forget that we spent billions to go to Mars knowing we wont find anything that specs of potential past life? So how can you say aliens wouldnt visit us, knowing we arent as intelligent as them? If there are aliens within a certain calculable distance, and they are made of are awareness AND have the capabilities of travelling to us, they would 100% do it, even if we are just an anthill to them.

The fact that you or anyone else cant understand this simple fact boggles my mind.

I believe in aliens or some other form of species it is very egotistical as human beings which we are to believe that we are the only living beings in this universe. I mean compared to what other possible beings there might be out there and how futuristic they might me we may only be little ants compared. I have heard while talking with other people that aliens might have already been among us only now becoming more visible i mean if they traveled light years maybe further you have to think that they probably have the technology to become invisible. Maybe they are trying to become more visible for a reason i suggest going to youtube and looking into crop circles (crazy) I know but dont brush them off i mean seriously we dont have the technology to be making crop circles like that and the measurements are too perfect even the robotics we have today have a 99.99% chance of imperfections. So then are those circles perfect.

Check out this video on faking UFO’s

It has 300,000 views. Well I do believe there is some other life (if you could call it that) out there. I think the odds are 10^100 (that’s a googol) times better that you’re just being trolled by me or one of the other 300,00 viewers

@shbarton, While the probability of aliens in our universe are extremely high. The probability that the lights you saw in the sky that night were aliens are extremely extremely low.

Why?

1) You only saw lights in the sky and you assumed it was a UFO it seems like a huge stretch of the imagination to make such an inference from just that

2) Just because an organism has been in the universe a very long time doesn’t mean they evolve to have intelligence in the way we see it, (E.g Plants have been here long before animals and they can’t even walk) every organism adapts to suit their environment evolution isn’t linear

3) Wouldn’t they search for life closer to where they live like we did by going to mars

If you keep feeding the man he will troll you like an animal..Good points, but not actually good points. I have a feeling @manimal, will question me saying, of what points do you speak?, but he knows full in well what I’m talking about, i will take a quote from one of yours ” You don’t know, What you don’t know.” and @manimal, quite frankly i thought you had relevant input into these threads, but i can see You’re more interested in flexing your knowledge and demeaning others…But hey it’s ok, because you do a really good job at it.