Nothing is Better

Homepage Forums Mind Nothing is Better

Viewing 5 posts - 26 through 30 (of 30 total)
Avatar of
Anonymous
(@) 11 months, 2 weeks ago ago

This started out from a nihilistic viewpoint but others seem to have taken it a different direction where you can’t compare things. Of course you can, take dogs and cats, cats suck and dogs are awesome, they’re very different but I compare them and I choose dogs to be better. The point of nihilism is to say that nothing holds any intrinsic value, so any value placed on an action or object is purely subjective. This absence of intrinsic value means that everything truly is just existing, any meaning or value is only so because we put it there.

Take the bike example, one functional and one broken, someone who needs to get from A to B would say that the functional bike is better, I’m personally not a fan of biking, I’d say screw em both, somebody who enjoys fixing up broken bicycles might say that the broken one is better for his interests. Some people might say that killing is always bad, others might say it’s ok in self defense, others might be brought up in a way that tells them it is ok to further their desires. But how can anyone say that any view is better or worse? They can’t be right or wrong, their subjective interpretation can only clash with yours.

Unless I missed the OPs original point and he actually was talking about how everything is unique and therefor not subject to comparison, in which case I disagree.

Avatar of Sasho Stoyanov
Sasho Stoyanov
(@beyond) 11 months, 2 weeks ago ago

“It’s all a matter of taste” – said the dog and licked his balls.

I wish I could say more on the topic, but that pretty much sums it up.

Avatar of The_truth_is_
The_truth_is_
(@sirensetmefree) 11 months, 2 weeks ago ago

@lytning91, I can agree to that. (=

Avatar of Ray Butler
Ray Butler
(@trek79) 11 months, 2 weeks ago ago

I understand Nihilism, and I like the debate to be on the subject of life and death, personally, that is valuable to me because the analogy is easy to understand. Yes life and death just are, any meaning or value is what we have put there. Death is an unknown, we can theorise about it but nothing is certain until it is actually experienced. To an explorer, the curious mind, death is an attractive thing, just wanting to know, to discover. But in the sense that you will get there inevidably, even to the explorer it makes sense to live until it is forced upon you, for while living, one can explore things that potentially may not be explorable after death.
The ultimate Nihilism demands that even reason has no value so any rationalising that I have just stated about the explorer is irrelevant. To me, that is like a religious person saying “God exists because he just does” it is not a case of it being an unreasonable assumption by the religious person because they say “It’s a matter of faith”

Avatar of DaJetPlane
DaJetPlane
(@lytning91) 11 months, 2 weeks ago ago

I’ll sum this up really briefly for everyone: Comparison is relative. Human life is relative. The world he SENSE is relative…but the world as it is is absolute and objective.

You can debate that last part as much as you like, but you can’t prove it right or wrong because, as is the human condition, we don’t really have a choice but to see it through relative eyes. Every argument you can fathom is sourced in unreliable foundation, and therefore moot.

It is like saying you can HEAR the quality of digital sound, when your ears can only perceive analog. Your ears can only hear so well, to a point where having “digital sound quality” is somewhat wasted on you.

Viewing 5 posts - 26 through 30 (of 30 total)

You must be logged in to reply to this topic.