Old souls (being one, knowing one)
Hi, first of all I’m fairly new here (I joined like 10 minutes ago) but I feel right at home, so I’ll just barge in with a big question:
Have you any experiences with the concept of an ‘old soul’?
I full well realize this may come off as a wee bit floaty to some, but I can’t explain it otherwise. I haven’t studied much on the subject, but those who have always immediately recognize me as one once they get to know me.
I was hoping others here could maybe share their knowledge and experiences with the concept, and perhaps if they feel they are one themselves could discuss some of the oddities it entails, the thoughts it bears and such.
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Hi Rutger! Welcome to HE! i know exactly what you are talking about. I consider myself an old soul as well. A few people have mentioned it before, mostly my mother who thinks I was once an egyptian. I find that pretty amusing and flattering. But it feels right. Not to seem all high and mighty but I feel like I see the world in a different light than other people. I feel like I understand it more than others do and have a strong sense of priorities. I feel wise but also very much in touch with my youth, like Stoned Dangles mentioned. I love to live and that it’s the greatest thing to feel. I’m always one to give advice and follow a keen intuition. We had another discussion a few days ago I think kind of talking about the same subject. I’ll go see if I can find it and post a link on here.
Those old people who don’t understand have just never been able to realize that their lives are meaningless compared to the whole sum. I do believe time is relevant because a toddler can go through lots of shit but not be able to comprehend; It takes time and knowledge to be able to adapt to the world and realize the significance of such events. An old person can experience many self-actualization experiences but never develop the realization because of lack of knowledge, just as a toddler wouldn’t be able to. It’s a matter of developing a more realistic perception which demands knowledge and time.
From my own experience it’s a very weird thing to be. Well, it can be. The aspect that seems most prominent is your state of being. I only just turned 21, but I appear to have made a peace with my mind and the world around me that I only recognize in some elderly people, whom have had rich and full lives. It’s an unexplainable calmness that sets me apart from other people my age, or even far past my age, that those who have no idea what an old soul entails, or have no belief in anything ‘supernatural’, still comment on it. I’ve felt like I was 90 years old since for as long as I can remember. I generally have a respect for nature and other people that seems far and few in today’s world.. As if I’m completely neutral, entirely Zen. I realize this may all come off as a tad bit egocentric, but I’m merely trying to convey how I’ve experienced my life.
I tend to agree that the “old soul” thing is just an illusion.
It’s a very convincing illusion, but an illusion nonetheless.
You can feel like you know someone so well, even if you just met them. Everything about them seems to “make sense”. I used to think it had something to do with reincarnation/spiritual knowledge, but now I think it’s just different levels of self-awareness. I tend to associate high levels of self-awareness with a certain sort of timelessness. High levels of self-awareness with some cynicism makes me think of older people.
I think it also has to do with the goals you choose for yourself. If you pick silly things to chase after, it makes you seem young and inexperienced.
Here it is. It’s quite interesting.
I agree. I met an old soul earlier this year, and though he’s maybe 25 he seems about 90 too. All the good things about 90, of course, as seen by us younger folks. Old souls have peace, as Rutger says, and perspective, and acceptance. They’re joyful and loving and non-judgemental. They have solid strength and purpose and resolve, that don’t get in the way of the little joys of daily life. They have been teaching forever and also seem eager to keep learning. I’d say they also have a lightness that you don’t see in people who are trying really hard to “be zen”.
Hah I’ll be damned, I was just reading through that before checking back up on this thread. I have no idea what I was. Or if I even ever was anything more. People tell me things, they all tell me something different. All I know is, I feel old. Very, very old..
I consider the soul a part of the physical self; there are no special attributes to it more so than the liver in my opinion. A young liver can be more mature than that of an older person’s by way of drug use/abuse.
Old Soul is just a label, given to something they can’t explain otherwise. I can’t explain it myself, I can only tell you about my experiences. Whether it indeed includes anything such as reincarnation or any form of eternal being is beyond my and anyone else’s comprehension. All I know are unexplainable feelings and phenomena I do not see in most other people, that would indeed fit in fairly nicely with what some people are saying about past lives. However, as with anything in the universe, one must never have the audacity to say they understand what is going on.
As I see it, if you have yet to learn everything God wants you to learn from this life before you die, then you are sent back in a new body. In this life you are to discover the parts of your true self that you still required to become sublime/complete and thus enter heaven.
Some folks have labeled me as such, and they’re probably right. I’m 24, but I don’t really feel out of place among elderly folk. Is that what it means? Sometimes they require patience to deal with and care for, but I’m more content to spend time chatting with my grandparents and reading books, than doing what typical people my age do. Several of my sexual partners have been around a decade older than me as well.
One of the most interesting aspects of it in my opinion is that I seem to be able to give extremely experienced insight into several things I’ve never done or even heard about. Whether this is simply a case of high intelligence coupled with empathy, or experiences from a previous life, I leave to you.
That’s an interesting view Dangles.. You believe in a ‘classical’ heaven, but one to which we are all entitled after our souls are complete enough? Reminds me of the Cosmic Egg idea, if you’re familiar with that. Frankly I have no idea why I am what I am, and if there is any significance to it whatsoever. All I know is how much it has affected me in this life, which is no small foot print.
If u mean reincarnation,I know some people who lived before and still remember things about their past life ,some of them even met their old families..I believe that most of us have live before but only few people remember their past life…one thing I noticed about all those people is that they all died in a tragic way ..
Read “Many Lives, Many Masters,” By Brian L. Weiss! This is a true-story about a Psychiatrist’s findings when he uses hypnosis and past-life regression to help his client overcome phobias and recurring nightmares in her current life. Its a very interesting read!
The way the old soul was described here: http://personalityspirituality.net/articles/the-michael-teachings/reincarnation-the-35-steps/stage-5-the-old-soul/ describes me very well. I feel very much like a new old soul, but I also have a feeling that it’s just the body/mind I’m in right now.
@Rutger: How do you feel when people tell you their problems?
I’ve always been called an old soul by my parents and even my current roommates. I believe it’s just a matter of maturing faster than people for your age and older. It’s a matter of being conscious of others around you and having a knack for things before your lifetime; the way when things were excellent, i.e. the golden 20′s.
@ Animus. The soul is part of the body yet it doesn’t die when the body dies? Interesting.
The power of our brains shouldn’t be underestimated. They are the most complicated thing in our known universe. We aren’t dumb creatures with souls. We are transcendentally intelligent creatures who have lost touch with ourselves by externalizing the source of our being into such things as a God or the soul. Either that or we have adopted an atheistic worldview, and for some reason retain that we know exactly what we are and what’s possible by looking at the systems around us, all the while ignoring the possibility that we are way off. These are both plagues caused by limited human perception.
Don’t develop bias toward your beliefs people. Always challenge your own mold; you stop growing if you stop doing so.