Polyphasic Sleep, The Dymaxion Sleep Schedule.

2 years, 4 months ago

I am currently keenly interested in attempting a polyphasic sleep schedule, and I am specifically interested in attempting the Dymaxion sleep schedule as it is the one with the shortest amount of downtime (Sleep time) I’ve discovered. But I have run into a problem with the timing of the naps, every webpage I’ve read about the Dymaxion sleep schedule words it essentially the same way “The Dymaxion Sleep Schedule consists of a 30 minute nap every six hours.” My question is this; Do the naps have to be six hours apart? Is that really a crucial part of this? I understand that if nothing else it will make it easier on your body to adjust to the schedule with naps being not only at set times but also the same amount of time apart, but is it possible to achieve the same results by shuffling the naps around a little bit and retaining the same length of nap?

The typcial Dymaxion sleep schedule times would be something like this:
Nap #1= 0000-0030
Nap #2= 0600-0630
Nap #3= 1200-1230
Nap #4= 1800-1830

The schedule has each nap 6 hours apart. I would like to know if I could have my naps scheduled like this:
Nap #1= 0100-0130
Nap #2= 0500-0530
Nap #3= 1700-1730
Nap #4= 2100-2130

So that after my first nap I am awake for four hours, then I take my second nap, after which I remain awake for 12 hours, then I take my third nap, after which I remain awake for four hours, then I take my fourth nap, after which I remain for four hours again.

To simplify, the Dymaxion schedule is referred to as being six hours between each nap.
6\6\6\6

I want to know if I can do four hours, then twelve, then four, and four again between my naps.
4/12/4/4

I want to keep the same amount of time asleep versus time awake each day but the problem I’m having is with scheduling, my job averages about 10 hours a day with an hour round trip to work, my job is physically laborious and does not allow me to have a nap in the middle of the day, so I want to find a way to work around it. My hope is that once I am adjusted having a 30 minute nap then four hours later having another one will offer me enough energy to be alert and energetic for twelve hours (work and commute) and then return home and take another 30 minute nap, then be alert for four hours and then start it all again, without building a sleep debt over time.

I really appreciate your help!

December 15, 2012 at 9:46 pm

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Profile photo of DaJetPlane DaJetPlane M (@lytning91) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

http://www.highexistence.com/?s=sleep+cycle&post_types=

Start with those 3 blog posts and see if that helps ya out =)

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Profile photo of Mark Brisbane Mark Brisbane (@bigfoot29) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Dymaxion is… Tough. You might want to be fully aware of what you’re getting into to begin with.

For information on Dymaxion I’d recommend checking out PolySoc:

http://www.polyphasicsociety.com/polyphasic-sleep/overviews/dymaxion/

What you’re planning is like a SPAMAYL for Dymaxion instead of Uberman, and I don’t want to discourage you but Dymaxion itself is pretty much impossible, let alone a modification like that. Having said that, I am no expert on polyphasic sleep and the field is still growing. I’d recommend that you check out the PolySoc forums (same website as before) as well as the SPAMAYL.

Whatever you decide on committing to, I’d love to hear about it. Good luck!

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Profile photo of The Passionate Pupil The Passionate Pupil (@deanzumwalt) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

A very substantial part of me is wanting to try this purely to see if I can do it, and for the reasons stated above, but I have to say that the majority of me is screaming to do it because I’m so curious about how it will affect me. I’m literally fighting the urge to try and start it now because for one I’m going to go see the Hobbit tomorrow (Hell yeah) and I don’t want to be so tired or groggy that I can’t make it through it or remember every little detail, and two because like I said I have a physically laborious job and I spent the last 6 months jobless hunting for employment every single day, and I do not want to dive into this without being prepared or having some kind of plan for if I reach a point of sleep deprivation bad enough that it effects my work and ends up costing me the job I worked so hard to get.

I can say for sure that I won’t be doing this “soon” because I want to make sure and study it out and everything, but also because I want to start keeping a journal and recording how much sleep I get now, how it affects me, how being woke up in the middle of the night and staying up etc. effects me and stuff like that. I’m super curious about all of this so I’m going to record as much data from as many different situations and I can think of before I start changing sleep schedules, but I can say for certain that I will cover the Dymaxion (my own little edited version above lol) schedule and I will succeed at it!

I am beyond excited about all of this so starting tomorrow I am going to begin planning and then I’ll get on a regular sleep schedule and start collecting data! If anyone is interested in the data I’ll be collecting or wants to toss out situations/schedules/etc. for me to cover then I’d be more than happy to hear from you ^_^

EDIT** Also any data that you have collected or found online would be much appreciated ;D

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Profile photo of The Passionate Pupil The Passionate Pupil (@deanzumwalt) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

Also while recording my “normal” sleep schedule and its effects on my body I am also going to begin learning how to meditate because I hear that if you are really good at meditating and can get into a deep enough state it has similar effects to REM sleep, so if that is true and I can get to that point then it would be amazing if I were able to start the Dymaxion sleep schedule to decrease my amount of time asleep and then replace what little sleep I was getting with meditation and then live the rest of my life awake. Which that may be a pipe dream and extreme and maybe even impossible but very few amazing things were done or created by people who didn’t believe in or attempt to do the impossible so who knows!

Also I have a question, I’ve read a hundred times over that dreaming occurs almost exclusively during REM sleep, but I haven’t had a dream in years. I know that the two aren’t mutually exclusive, its possible to have REM without dreaming, but does my lack of dreaming have any repercussions or and meaning behind it? Thanks again!

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Profile photo of tigerlily tigerlily (@tigerlily) 2 years, 4 months ago ago

I’ve read that you only recall dreaming if you wake up in REM sleep, otherwise there will be no memory of a dream whatsoever. And along with that if I remember correctly it’s in REM that you dream.

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Profile photo of TravisAD TravisAD (@travisad) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@deanzumwalt, could you please give us an update. How did this go for you?

Did you keep any logs?

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Profile photo of The Passionate Pupil The Passionate Pupil (@deanzumwalt) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

*UPDATE*
It didn’t “go” for me at all. Regrettably for about a week after my initial post I continued planning and researching attempting to learn whether or not I could transition to the Dymaxion but make it fit my sleep schedule, unfortunately I didn’t discover any information that conclusively told me if even one other person had done this or even attempted this.

That was not enough to deter me though, I was as prepared as I felt necessary, but unfortunately my job interfered. Before your body finally breaks down to the point to dive straight into REM sleep you have to experience severe sleep deprivation, unfortunately sleep deprivation tends to not go well for people who have jobs, but again that did not deter me… until my boss told me he wanted me driving the trucks.

So unfortunately I was unable to even attempt my experiment (And to think of all the wasted free time I had as a school kid… summer break…. its frustrating to be sure. You’re given free time when you don’t know what to do with it, but once you do know you’re lucky to get a week off after 3 years -_-).

I would like to note for anyone who may be interested that as soon as I encounter a time (when I am in good health) when I have a month or more with no obligations I will then attempt my experiment for the first time.

Thank you for your interest.

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Profile photo of maqroonio maqroonio (@maqroonio) 1 year, 3 months ago ago

http://pulsify.blogspot.com/p/easy-sleep-hacking.html Helped me get on the dymaxion sleep cycle. Although took me a couple of months though

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