Principles – good or bad?

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Living by a set of principles, what is it good for?

November 28, 2011 at 11:17 am

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Profile photo of John OMallen John OMallen (@omallen) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

Principles allow one to operate under an easy set of morals.
Morals are typically good.
These principles can decide what someone does in their daily life without much thought: A lady is being mugged on a street outside the bus, a man sees this, he deices not to get off the bus because he’ll be late for work, and not to call the police figure someone already had.
Same situation but he’s getting on the bus, not already on it: He attacks the mugger and the women gets away shaken but fine.
This man’s morals are based only what will be easy for him. Some people will have leaped off the bus to help, some would have phoned the police, most do nothing and will even have the audacity to record things like that with a cell phone.
Some principles work off of what people have seen or heard, like picking up the tab on a date.
Morals are good; some people just like to be Superman, and others don’t give two fucks about anybody.

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Profile photo of Haakon Haakon (@hawcon) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

But what if we turn it the other way around?

Principles doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with moral. With good moral, you may act differently judging by the situation, as long as it is in your/others best interest. But by following principle, this may hinder you from acting morally (depending on what your principle is).

Maybe the man in the bus sees the lady in distress and wants to help from a moral perspective, but he follows a principle that doesn’t allow him to put himself in danger out of respect for whatever it is.

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Profile photo of eastsighed eastsighed (@eastsighed) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

Yeahh morals are principles, but principles aren’t necessarily moral.

I think if you make a set of principles to live by, then people are able to respond to their surroundings more easily. I’m not talking about any specific situational or moral outcome, I’m talking about how people like to have a set of guidelines to follow, whether it be made by themselves or their own religion.

This could enable people to not take each situation as an individual situation, just kind of act as they have already instructed themselves to do in their personal guidebook, perhaps not give the situation at hand as much thought as it needs.

If people live well with structure, then I think people like to live by a set of principles, generally. People like feeling as if they have answers, or at least feel like they have them.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

I have a code 1)Have love and compassion for others and 2)Try not to harm others. These may be rather general, abstract or open to interpretation but of all the sum of knowledge I encounter in my lifetime I can hit the erase button to it all but these two things.
They are the base that I build everything on and nothing that I build, not the walls or roof, can ever become more important. It is my default, my safety net for what I judge all my “building materials” on and if any brick clashes with this base it (the brick)is replaced. If by chance the whole structure clashes with this base then it is the structure that comes down and the base remains for what I shall build the new structure on.
If they are good or bad? I don’t know or much care, it is just what I can agree with on every fiber of my being, unlike everything else.

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Profile photo of eastsighed eastsighed (@eastsighed) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

^thus strengthening my argument

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Profile photo of Alex Alex (@hollowinfinity) 3 years, 4 months ago ago

Morality is the basis for Confucianism. Where some people think math is intrinsic in reality itself, some people believe morality is. Some things you just know without ever being taught. People have a built in sense of right and wrong like some animals are good with direction. It is getting harder to be moral however. At least the line between good and bad/ right and wrong has become more and more grey.

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