RON PAULS LAST SPEECH

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Heather (@hhhkelly)    1 year, 8 months ago

IF YOU HAVEN’T ALREADY: http://www.naturalnews.com/038006_Ron_Paul_farewell_speech_liberty.html

WHY ISNT THIS MAN PRESIDENT?

ALSO; EBT CARDS = DEPENDENCY ON THE GOVERNMENT

4 votes, posted 11.18.2012 at 5:56 pm
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Alex (@apacheco10)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, He predicted exactly what would happen to the economy over the past two decades. What part of it is questionable?

whyronpaul.com

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cadeus (@cadeus333)1 year, 8 months ago ago

If anything, his knowledge of economics is the least questionable thing about his platform…

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Colton (@emecom)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, What specifically do you not like about his position on economics? Wanting to back the dollar with gold instead of the Fiat system? His negative view on the federal reserve and inflation? He has said he likes the Austrian School only to a certain point.

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PDC (@chemicalspike)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Nothing at all wrong about Ron Pauls understanding of Economics. Let us look at the most controversial position, gold standard.

The arguments against it are that it would act in a detrimental way to the financial system. Speculatory arguments not evidence based since no one country has specifically maintained a standard and suffered mass bubbles, in actual fact there has been mass deviation for inflationary or war financing purposes.

We currently have a fiat money system, let me ask people if they can think of a massive crisis hitting the financial system due to the current fiat money set up? Anyone?

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Jack (@jackflash)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Could someone please explain to me why Ron Paul would make a good president, and why a lot of people on HE seem to like him?

Its just that not living in the U.S. , I have little knowledge of the (former) presidential candidates other than the big two.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Again, everyone fails to acknowledge the EPA and FDA.

For all their bad doings, their protection of the environment and regulating what can and can’t be food is incredibly important.

I could belabor the topic, but… agree or die.

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Colton (@emecom)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, Yeah I do sort of remember that topic and a little about what you mentioned, I don’t agree with all of Ron Paul’s stances either but I think he is going in the right direction. I can’t read you link right now but I will try to when I get a chance.

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Colton (@emecom)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@jackflash, There are a ton of reasons that people like Ron Paul, and a ton of reasons that people don’t like him. He was the only presidential candidate other than some third party candidates that would have really made a difference. President Obama and Governor Romney are not as different as they would like people to believe. So the fact that there was a candidate that really wanted to change things made a lot of people excited.

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pat (@epath)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@apacheco10, So did the Democrats, but Republicnas were elected.

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Jared Edwards (@jaredwards)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Thanks for posting this.

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Alex (@apacheco10)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@epath, you mentioned democrats and republicans… I can’t take you seriously. One of the main problems with politics in the US is specifically this. People only see one party or the other, thinking one side is right. They are both wrong, and they are both right.

The real debate is right vs. wrong, not who is right. Ron Paul stands up for logic, human rights and our founding principles. Not Republican or Democrat.

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pat (@epath)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@apacheco10, Yes, according to you. Unfortunately, we all have to respect others’ views. If you see things in black and white, then your party will never win. No one person has all of the answers.

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Eric (@blankey)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@alltoohuman, Why? Because he understands that the Federal Reserve is NOT federal and is in fact the very reason why we are so far in debt (yes, there are other reasons, but this is the MAIN one).

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Zykanthos (@chodebalm)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Eric is right – the Federal Reserve is the main problem. There wouldn’t be such a thing as “fractional reserve banking” if the Federal Reserve had never come into existence. In fact, none of our money could have ever come into existence without prior existing debt. It’s literally out-of-thin-air money.

And to the OP, thanks for sharing this. This was an absolutely terrific speech. Crazy thing is….about 6 months ago, my sister served him at the restaurant she works at. It made me think about how much I would enjoy sitting down and having a chat with that guy and picking his brain.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@hhhkelly, Ron Paul is a dam genius if you ask me, or just a real man looking to help the people rather than the corporations. We all have to know by now that our government is run by the corporations with all the money. If a pharmaceutical company wants a medicine on the market it will get to the market no matter what. Then we find out 5 years later is causes more problems than it does good, that company made millions maybe even billions and Americans are hurting because of it. The same shit happens with our food supply and the fact we have GMO foods all over the place. Then looking at the FED as discussed earlier, its corrupt as all hell, its privately held and they basically have control of the government as well, deciding how much money to print and the interest rates and all that.

Andrew Jackson, Lincoln and Garfield were all against a privately held bank controlling the money supply, and guess what Lincoln and Garfield were assassinated trying to get rid of a central bank. Where do you think Green Backs came from, Lincoln. These presidents fought for us and in the end lost because large banks controlled the money and bought themselves into action.

We can blame England for adopting this system and bringing it to the US. We have too many government dependent people here in the US and until people realize we will be better off without the FED we will always have a Republican or Democrat in office. Hopefully 4 years from now the Libertarian Party will win, abolish the FED and get this country turned around. Then maybe all the fraud and shit that goes on will come out into the open and these people will be put in jail for White Collar crimes.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@hhhkelly, Also Gary Johnson was very similar to Ron Paul, and I wish more people realized that.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

EPA. FDA… am I alone here

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, What about them? They are fucking corrupt also, taking hand outs and pushing through whatever the proprietor tells them to. Why do you think we always have recalls, because that shit probably wasn’t tested in the first place. We are fucking guinea pigs, shits messed up for sure.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, OK SO IMAGINE IF THE EPA AND THE FDA WERE ABOLISHED.

TAH DAH. Nobody seems to understand how fucking important those are. WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Good bye national parks. Drilling in yosemite, in yellowstone, in the boundary waters – you name it. Want a view of ol’ faithful? Get ready for the giant fucking oil tanked right next door.

Want to know what is in your food? Too fucking bad – who would want to label whats in their food. Don’t know what a chemical name is? Oh – thats cause its patented – get ready to not know the ingredients on ANYTHING. Want someone to test if something is safe? TOO BAD.

There are recalls witht he FDA in place, but after the FDA gets removed – Recalls wouldn’t even be required. As long as the next batch maximizes enough profit to avoid lawsuits, deal with your shitty ass ebola or whatever.

Think factories pollute now? Say good bye to ANY regulation on dumping of toxic waste, cleaning of fume exhaust, or limits of cleanliness in products.

Heavy metals in your food drink? You can either spend 50 years of eating only to find out half your brain is fucked, or you could spend the 2,500$ to test it – for every single product and company out there.

You want to get rid of the EPA and FDA? GOOD FUCKING LUCK! I Ain’t supporting that idiotic move.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Most of that shit is happening now, they already allow puss in milk, arsenic in canned foods and even more shit i don’t know about so wtf. Yea they do some good, but not enough, they can definitely do better but because the country is controlled by corporations and politics is controlled by corporations and the FED were always going to be fucked. This country isn’t run by the people like it should be. Were not a democracy, were more of a plutocracy.

So no they shouldn’t be abolished but if it weren’t for the corruption of our government and money being more important than the livelihood of the people we would be good, but its not like that.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, yeah well they for all their bad, they are necessary. Getting rid of them at our stage of the game would set us back 200 years.

Ron Paul is great, but this would be a huge, huge mistake and I will not support him because of this. In order to even consider this you have to assume the general population will be completely informed of every companies doings. Companies would need to be completely transparent, and we’d have to trust everything they say.

AND THATS A BIG LOL

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, think about it this way though, you can abolish them and start from scratch. I’m sure there is a book of governing rules and shit that they have to follow, and maybe it takes re writing that book, giving them less control and making the EPA and FDA more transparent rather than the companies.

I don’t know all that i should know about these 2 entities but i can say there are ways of fixing our food supply, eliminating waste without having government entities in charge that are not doing their fucking job.

What about taking these big corporations and breaking them down into smaller companies, dont let them get as big as they are because they have too much damn money to spread around and buy whoever they want. Its the corruption of the money system that is the basis for the rest of the government corruption. And before those agencies people got along with their lives fine without all these fucking diseases and cancers. They had epidemics that killed millions but it wasn’t something that stayed around forever, it killed and then disappeared. Now were stuck with cancer and disease that will never be gone ever unless the entire human population is wiped out. That’s a by product corruption of the FDA and EPA and other government agencies and the FED.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, “break these companies down to smaller entities” now you’re speaking completely different than Ron Paul. Ron Paul would have none of that. He believes getting rid of any form of government, and allowing the free market to thrive would solve all problems.

This would allow monopolies to reign supreme, zero transparency required in any corporations’ doings, and catastrophic consequences for the environment.

I am not arguing that government is great here, I am only arguing that Ron Paul has a major flaw, and there are necessary evils.

In reality – if Ron Paul got elected and did everything he could, 15, 20, 50 years from now, EVERYONE would be thinking “Jesus we need some kind of regulation here! Lets start a government”

I swear to god.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, I’m just throwing ideas out there man. i never said i agreed with all of his policies and never said i was an expert of all that he wanted to do.

And if that were his stance i wouldn’t agree with that part but you have to know there is never a perfectly run government or society because people always get ego and greed involved somewhere along the line.

The one thing i can say that i will always agree with is getting rid of the FED. History has proven having a privately held bank is bad in all senses of the word. Having a money system that’s based on debt just doesn’t make sense. Thats why we have such a difference in rich and poor. At the same time i don’t disagree is taking more from the rich, at least not all of them. There are plenty of people out there who worked their asses off to get where they are and others that didn’t. Its probably impossible to distinguish in most cases but still all problems come back to our monetary system as far as I’m concerned.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, “Theres people who worked there asses off to get to where they are”

… I hate this statement so much because of THIS:

http://ih.constantcontact.com/fs012/1102126628934/img/20.jpg

http://www.csa.com/discoveryguides/india/images/organic.jpg

Versus:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/10/29/article-1223687-0077078600000578-16_468x378.jpg

One makes a a quarter of a million bucks a year.
The other makes a couple grand.
Which one worked harder?

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