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@AutumnMan, What if our perception of a person and their astrological sign are just a placebo effect? In other words, we may know a person and then read about their astrology sign and since subconsciously we know that this description supposedly “reflects” them we can’t help but see the similarities. But what if this person lies and says they are a Taurus when in reality they are an Aries by birth date; are we not going to read the description of a Taurus and say “Wow, this is just like you!” Or it could be that each person possesses certain aspects of each astrology sign but because of life experiences or whatever they inadvertently repress some of those traits. Who really knows though.
@cristinelizabeth, Ahhhhh I have to point this out, but I don’t mean to sound like a dick (but I probably will)
Dog poop is made of the same stuff as us, but that doesn’t mean if we let Fido poop near the fire hydrant we’re going to have better financial luck instead of him pooping in the garden.
That was not a very good response to @drakonerythros, question, and I’m surprised he accepted it.
As for the original question of this post, I’m in the air about it too. It’s one of those theories that could go either way for me. I am leaning a bit more to the “it’s hogwash” side of things though…
@beyond, If we’re speaking of compassion by definition (feeling empathy for those stricken by misfortune), I have a thought. Maybe finding strength in compassion isn’t the the most suiting way to put it, for you?
Firstly, I don’t think showing compassion always gives way to future suffering. I do believe sometimes it will, though. Does that make me an asshole too? I don’t think so. Don’t even think it makes you an asshole! I think it’s called being realistic and knowledgeable.
Don’t get me wrong, compassion and empathy are highly valued virtues of mine. I agree with you, though. Sadly, being compassionate (too compassionate) can be harmful.
BUT, at the root of it all, I believe it’s not that there’s no strength compassion…it’s just the ability to tolerate assholes who don’t comply with genuine compassion/empathy and the know how to handle those people – all while still maintaining the same level of compassion you would have in the upmost best part of your being. So, you are not the asshole for thinking there’s mo strength in compassion! I think, though, finding strength in compassion = the ability to do right and keep doing right even if the world around you is littered with scumbags.
@drakonerythros, Something to do with synchronicity, spiritual realms, not pretending as if we know and are in control of everything and such. It’s speculative but ancient people invested a lot time in it, so I think it’s worth entertaining the thought.
Why would a cell have any reason to believe anything matters beyond its membrane?
I don’t know. I mean, personality seems oddly predictable by astrology, but compatibility? Well, I generally have trouble getting along with people I “should” like and get along best with the ones I “should” clash with.
For example, I’m a typical Water sign (Scorpio), but my best friend is a typical Aries, lol.
I am a Leo and everything they say Leos are I am. I’m friends with almost all signs but strongest with fire signs, one of my closest friends/ possible future significant other has the same birthday as me and we are almost exactly the same person. But I do think that mostly when people read their star signs they associate with the similarities and discard what they don’t see, also the characteristics seem very vague so I think there is a lot of confirmation bias.
@cristinelizabeth, i dont think any ‘internet’ compatability site is right personally, I think it comes from what you think as a personally. like @splashartist, said, I think its more of a general thing than anything. For example, i notice Vergos seem to stay in my life longer and teach me alot, and I am much more attracted physically and mentally to leos and libras. I also notice I tend to clash with leos alot, maybe being the same sign as myself? I dont know. The point im trying to get at is, if you listen to yourself, you will probably see who your ‘compatible’ with.
@cristinelizabeth, There’s exceptions to everyone I believe. I just use it as a general guide. From what I have observed over the years from many peoples failed relationships is that it does play a role in it for sure. I also find myself more physically attracted to certain signs then others which is quite funny.
@beyond, I think it’s definitely a strength, but can also be a weakness if given blindly. Compassion allows me to feel empathy, and to help people whenever it’s possible. But it’s draining to take on board everyone elses feelings, then it becomes self destructive. I have both good and bad experiences with it. But my mum and dad are like that too, and they’re not pisces.
@cristinelizabeth, im kinda up in the air about it. I don’t know whether to believe it but at the same time there have been truths behind it, in my own personal experiences. Could be coincidences but then again who knows. Not I.
@xyver, Lol honesty that scenario in my perspective has nothing to do with anything. But I also don’t understand why it wasn’t an alright response, I suppose it was kind of biased based on my current theories. I apologize @drakonerythros,
@kellah, Yeah makes sense, @maryalice, I thought about the prejudice thing also, trying not to base their whole life on their sign. Lol.
Reading your daily horoscope though sometimes is spot on,,, Mine was yesterday.
@beyond, does this resonate with you?
I’m skeptical of astrology but I can’t help but notice when someone’s sign matches their personality, which does happen a lot.
Sign compatibility, maybe.
I’ve gotten along famously with every Aquarius I’ve ever known, but this is just subjective, retrospective examination.
Since people from many cultures have written about it for thousands of years, it might not be that absurd to take it into consideration. For example:
The moon’s gravity affects the tides and menstrual cycles.
People born in summer months have better psychological health in the long run.
Hormone levels fluctuate throughout the year depending on the season.
That being said, these could just be the ways of the world and have nothing to do with the planets.
Jung and Gauqelin did some solid research into the topic. You could check out their work. Most of the other info on the net is shady, though.
@maryalice, Well, I should have said that most of my closest friends before I discovered astrology were Aquarians.
But the points you make are certainly valid. The first point is similar to what the Forer effect posits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forer_effect
The second point could also be valid because an individual’s sun sign is only a fraction of who they supposedly are according to astrology.
Maybe both astrology and western reductionist science are two sides of the same coin. The yin and the yang.
@ojai, Haha, I agree. Empathy and compassion allows me to keep calm when people are behaving like assholes, cause I can see it’s just a reaction to inner issues. So I react by feeling sorry for them. But on the more destructive side, I have sometimes found it difficult to separate other people’s emotions from my own, I’ve been carrying around other people’s grief to the extent of putting my own life on hold. Then again, this is a trait I kind of inherited from my parents. Might not have anything to do with astrology at all.
@ojai, Thanks for summing it up. And thanks for asking me how do I ‘gauge’ compassion, everyone interprets it differently. Maybe the strength doesn’t come from being compassionate, but from acknowledging the weakness that comes with it. I think compassion should just come in the form of an action, not just feeling it.
@ARCANUS, I also think that it’s like this for everyone, but I’m the same sign so I don’t know. Maybe even if it is, pisces just put more thought on it? “Pisces and Temperament:
The Pisces personality is hard to pin down, it is very mysterious and elusive.” Well, shit. I like to read on and learn about such things, but sometimes I get frustrated that the sources really aren’t written with a little more imagination. And when the source isn’t enough for me, I happily become my own.