Stay in Military Vs. Going Back to Civilian Life

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samseeks (@samseekssamfinds)    2 years, 4 months ago

So here’s the deal: Right now I am young, and have so many opportunities I am a little lost. I want to do something good with my life, something fulfilling where I can help fulfill others too. I am a Lance Corporal in the Marine Corps. I am about half way through my enlistment (2 years down), and I have to decide whether to stay in or go back to school full time. I already take classes now, but I don’t have enough time to study as I am on ship half of the year. At the moment finishing out my enlistment is a very attractive idea, but so is extending two additional years with the Marines and changing my boring administrative work out for something more fun, and interesting. Not only more interesting, but I could get a higher security clearance and possibly have a job with the FBI/CIA when I get out. That in mind, I don’t think I really want to work for the government after this. So my problem is, do I choose the obvious path to success or pursue a less stable route by getting out of the military and actually trying to find the right, fulfilling career for me? I’m just curious to see what others’ takes are on this.

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Martijn Schirp (@martijn)2 years, 4 months ago ago

It kinda depends on who you would like to be down the road. Because it seems to me the military fosters a certain mind set, as in, there is not much room for individuality. And I am not sure if I would call the FBI/CIA a success. I doubt it’s anything like hollywood shows us.

actually trying to find the right, fulfilling career for me?

Why would you want success if something else is fulfilling? ;)

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samseeks (@samseekssamfinds)2 years, 4 months ago ago

Good point, good point. Yeah, man you got that right. Individuality is definitely discouraged to some degree. I mean they want us to get out, have fun, and find new things, but definitely within some strict guidelines. A lot of mistakes made in the civilian world are a slap on the wrist, whereas the same mistakes could cost you a career in the Corps. And I actually hate most Military/Police/Lawyer/FBI/CIA centered movies. Not sure why, but I mean successful more in a measure of financial growth and stability. I think long term success in that respect is something I have always wanted to realize in my life, and have as an asset to encourage my family. At the same time, I have a feeling that success could be an empty one. Thanks for your comment.

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Brandon (@unstoppableobject)2 years, 4 months ago ago

I don’t know about you man, but I’m getting the FUCK outta dodge.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 4 months ago ago

I was in the military under a 6 year enlistment. Got 2 in and decided it was better for me to be elsewhere. The military can set you up for life, if you want to do that. It messes with your brain over time though, especially if you are that peaceful dude that likes to think about the Universe or something. (thats who I am, and it didn’t merge well with the military life)
I’m in debt now, but pretty damn happy too. :)

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corey (@neomerlin13)2 years, 4 months ago ago

i am in the marine corps about to get out in aug. im going to go to school and use the gi bill and get paid for going to school. finally have my freedom, but if things get to harsh i can always just go back and as long as u go back soon enough u can keep rank. you can change branches, ive heard rumors that the army will bump you up one grade. but still u got time still find you and what you want to be and just follow it.

i would much rather be a trash slinging hippy than go back. and kudos to you @Alex

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Brandon (@unstoppableobject)2 years, 4 months ago ago

MOS’s?

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corey (@neomerlin13)2 years, 4 months ago ago

7234

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

Alex, so you got chaptered out because you thought the “universe” was full of unicorns, and rainbows, and so was the army, and it turned out to be too hard so you pussed out and couldnt “merge”….. basically it sounds like your a bitch….if your such a “peaceful dude” why would you join organization that kills people…

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x (@ParalyticDreams)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@sgt-joplin, People like you are the ones who are destroying our humanity and this planet.

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eraOFterra (@teranicole11)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@samseekssamfinds, you are in the same exact position I was 2 years ago. I joined the US Army when I was 17 during my senior year of high school. I thought I was doing something fulfilling, honorable etc etc etc and would be able to have a guaranteed job and income for college. After basic graduation I went straight to college and joined ROTC to become an officer. Slowly as I was growing as an individual, I began realizing that I hated what I was doing. It began becoming a burden, and something I would start mocking. I hated the mindset that I was immersed in- my battle buddies’ idea of “killing them damn hajis” started to tear at me until I started slacking a lot. I just couldn’t bring myself to do it. I went to a liberal college so I began learning a lot of things about the gov, military and that solidified my disgust for the american military. (any watch Zeitgeist lol) I filed for a conscientious objector but with a year of processing, I was stuck to my duties. Luckily my objector packet landed in my NCO’s hands and after he read my essays for the desire to leave, he found a loophole for me to get out and 1 year later- I’m out. I got a general discharge- which sure I won’t be able to get a gov job- but honestly I would never want one. I’m perfectly happy thinking and acting freely, I don’t feel as though I’m going against my morals by my work. I got slapped with 2 years of debt payment for my college, which was highly expensive- but I still feel it was 100% worth it moving that section out of my life. And also, since the military is on my resume I get asked about it during job interviews, and when I tell them the reason I decided to leave- I have never got turned down by a job til this day.

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eraOFterra (@teranicole11)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@hollowinfinity, virtual high five!

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Obfuscate (@HowardHolmes)1 year, 2 months ago ago

The reason this appears tough is that you are giving yourself no options. You are considering Career A or Career B. Careers are not a good thing. No animal other than humans has a career. This should tell us something. You do not want a career.

Choose life instead. Figure out how to never work another day in your life. It can be done. It a like a vacation 365 days a year.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@sgt-joplin, lol whatever you say bro. It takes more strength to stand up for your beliefs, then to be told what they are.

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@sgt-joplin, Also, you have to understand the difference between a 17 year old mind, and a 19 year old mind. If the military works for you, cool..have fun killing people. Do you even have the slightest inclination why we are at war? Or even how many places we have military bases set up at?

I will think for myself, thank you.

And no, the military isn’t hard. You’re told what to do all the time. That sounds pretty brain dead to me. It’s just a bunch of fucking drunks with guns.

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eraOFterra (@teranicole11)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@sgt-joplin, it’s a damn shame how simple minded you are. it’s people with your mentality who become the sheep, absolutely brain washed. stop “merging” for a second and realize what you’re even talking about. the big picture rather than the tunnel you live in. you’re part of the herd of sheep who would rather hear about car crashes, murders and sex scandals in the news rather than the REAL issues going on in the world. ones that affect us as a humanity, not ones that are purposefully meant to dumb you down and forgo thinking for yourself… seems like you’re already in too deep in the shit water.

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DaFunks (@Dafunks)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@samseekssamfinds, I am against WAR, Murder and Lying…. So. you know where I stand on this.

I am sure each option has bad points for you and good points. You will have regret no matter which you pick.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@ Alex..soldiers fought and died in order for you to have the privelege to “think for yourself” , and to “stand up for your beliefs”…i understand the “dude fuck this shit it aint worth it” lol trust me!..but thats because you were a private, and you were yet to be entrusted with responsiblilty to actually be able to make decisions on your own..the military isnt hard when your a pvt..right place, right time, right uniform..and do what your told…but when your in charge of molding, and mentoring the future leaders that will someday protect your children…its a lot different,… if you spent 2 years in the army, you might have thought it was a waste of time, but i bet you learned a thing or two about yourself, and i bet you use things..small things during your life and dont even know it…i bet you appreciate things a little more , ..and it doesnt matter “why we are at war” or “where out bases are”..or what kinda crazy conspiring goverment agendas are really going on..or…”kill the Hadjis !” what it it all boils down to, is we might seem like drunken idiots with guns….but anyone of us will die for you…without even knowing you…because its our job…and we dont have to like it…our families dont have to like it…but we took an oathe..and we will do it…with honor

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@eraofterra ..what are you talking about?….the media?

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stryder (@stryder)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@samseekssamfinds, you don’t want to be part of the military killing machine. You’ll feel more fulfilled doing something that benefits humanity rather than being part of something that is detrimental towards it.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@ EOT..
ok what are these “REAL” issues that im missing out on…because im dumb down, and not thinking for myself?

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@ stryder..the military is not always all about the killing machine…the military is not detrimental towards humanity….humans are….

- most militaries fight for those who cant fight for themselves…they dont just kill millions of people for no reason…

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@sgt-joplin, Is that really what happened? Which history do you believe? The one that logically makes sense, or the one you have been told your entire life because we live in fucking america?

Dying without cause is a waste of life. Sure, I would fucking take a bullet for any other human, even if that other human is the country we are fighting. You must realize that almost everything fucked up thats happened in the last 100 years is OUR FAULT. The American revolution wasn’t even as honorable as people like to think.

You learn about yourself and life through anything you do. You don’t need to sell your soul to do that, in fact its pretty harmful.

If we just left other countries alone, a lot less people would die, and everyone would be better off, and we can actually grow and learn crazy shit..but no, better to spend all our money on weapons. It’s actually sad when you realize the only reason we got to the moon was because we took a rocket which was used for a weapon, and tweaked it. That’s how we got there. Warfare. Imagine what we could do if we pulled our heads out our asses for once.

You can do what you’d like, and stand up for your beliefs..but I know I’m not wrong here.
I’ll continue standing up for my life, and the peace for all. You can continue preventing all my goals.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 2 months ago ago

ok well then let me tell you about what i havent been lied to about in history books cuz i was there…..”if we left other countries alone, alot less people would die” right?…well during the Iraq Invasion, we took Baghdad, outside of saddams palaces, was a human meet grinder, where he would throw thousands of Shiites alive and grind them (because Saddam was a Sunnie) , he had torcher chambers, sex chambers, and the insides of his walls were filled with weapons, and money….and a room with a tiger where he fed it Shiites….

Remember the Weapons of mass destruction that we didnt find…WE DIDNT FIND THEM …PUT TOGETHER….SO techinically we didnt
on my 2nd deployment we found bunkers buried with all the pieces to build the weapons….the chemicals..and all….but all in different locations so it didnt count…. we even found an F17 JET under ground….
Mass killings of a religious group, and chemical weapons isnt enough to intervene??? And what in the last 100 years “fucked up” is our fault your talking about?
Why do you hate america so much?

But i am 100% with you on Peace..I would love it, but even if we stopped making weapons, and left all countries alone, is every other country going to…No…
“if you want peace, prepare for war”

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Lyle (@LMorris1012)1 year, 2 months ago ago

Get out

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fluidity (@aimlesscreation)1 year, 2 months ago ago

@samseekssamfinds, Get out and go to school. Don’t take the easy path simply because it is easier. That is the cowards route. You said yourself you didn’t want to work for the government, and by your words; you already fucked that one up, albeit you are more or less property of the united states not a worker. In this life you only get this life, so follow your heart. pursue your desires. chase your dreams. fuck it man, why settle for security?

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