Ever wonder if the subconscious part of your mind has a much bigger role than most would think? I always do. I feel like I almost live life through my subconscious.
My friend was explaining the other day to me that the reason he waves at everyone he sees and sets an impression on himself, he figures that those people(They add up) will notice him much more once seeing him again. Although they may not remember exactly if they have seen him before, just the fact that they may subconsciously being paying much more attention to him.
Intriguing. What do you think about our subconscious mind?
@rotoenforco, Fun fact! Us humans use our subconscious a whopping 95% of the time and our conscious mind 5% of the time. Think about that for a second… So basically, because we have this constant awareness, this observer inside us all, we are simply being AWARE of our subconscious actions. We are most of the time following a set “plan” if you will. And, what is even more bizarre is that we have NO FUCKING IDEA what the subconscious is. We just lump all of the shit we have no idea about into this category and call it good.
@rotoenforco, I think people who think such things are a little ‘off’ compared to everyone else.
In order to come to that conclusion you would have to be doing something that most people arent which is why you notice yourself noticing and other people dont even notice that they notice. If thats not too backwards sounding.
I think, to really address your question, that it depends on what people we are talking about. Are we talking about ‘people like us’ who notice ourselves noticing? Or are we talking about people who just ‘follow the plan’ without it even really occurring to them that there ever was ‘a plan’? -Because if we are talking about ‘people like us’ then NO, I dont think the subconscious has more to do with things than we really believe. . .because deep down inside we KNOW it has a whole fucking lot to do with things which is why we notice. If we are talking about blissfully ignorant people (which I mean without even the slightest tinge of disrespect) then the answer is YEA WELL OBVIOUSLY, because if they did it would change the way they are altogether.
My question to you would be, if your subconscious is 95% of ‘you’ and the ‘you’ you think of as ‘you’ accounts for only 5%. . .for people who DONT feel as though they ‘live’ in their subconscious, who/what is living in their subconscious?
If you think of it like studio apartment, one room with everything you need. If you do everything within that apartment and never leave, how are you to know if there is even a hallway outside your front door? Or that you are really living inside an apartment at all and not just a suite within a house? Why should it even occur to you that youve never left your apartment because since youve never left you dont have any preconception about there being anything else outside of your apartment. But in order for someone to have electricity and food and running water and waste disposal and an apartment at all there would need to be someone or something providing all of that whether youre aware of it or arent. If you arent getting the milk, who is?
So if you arent whats ‘living’ in your subconscious, and it is responsible for 95% of ‘you’, what is? That is a much more interesting question, in my personal opinion.
@rickvonstar, wouldnt that have to be everywhere? I mean there arent really a whole ton of other options now are there?
But to be straight, why is there an inner world and outer world? Why isnt there just a world? Period.
I dont really the the purpose in segregation here. It serves no benefit in that application. Trying to separate the two is only useful to make the two aspects of the same thing easier to contrast against one another. It is like saying do you like white or black instead of just accepting that there could be beauty in the general aspect of shades and the sub-aspects there-of.
Dont you think?
@rickvonstar, It doesnt matter who the question is pointed at. I am asking about the content of the question its self.
You could be asking me, yourself, or Ghandi and I will still be curious what your point is behind the set division.
Sorry if that wasnt clear.
@mjayne, yeah aspects of the same thing.
how can anyone say where the subconscious begins and the conscious begins? Many of the processes that go on not under your control or in “subconscious” are actually under your control because how could it be that there is something that is a part of your organism that isn’t under the control of that organism? As if the body/mind was not part of who you are and there is somehow something separate called “you” that gets pushed around by something else…
@rickvonstar, Totally interesting. Because heres the question then. Is your mobile phone also ‘you’ because its an extension of you? You control it, no? It does all kinds of shit that you dont consciously understand. . .but so does your body?
Where do ‘you’ stop and start? Do you stop and start at all? Do you exist?
@rotoenforco, check out this article about blind-sight.
There are various types of tests that have been done along the same lines, but they all show that the subconscious plays a vital role that your consciously not aware of.
I think we’re all consciousness, but we divide it and subconsciousness is that part which we are not aware of. The more your awareness raises, the more you are conscious of yourself – the less subconscious there is.
Maybe Enlightenment is when there is no longer any subconsciousness. Maybe not.
But the subconscious will ALWAYS but the underlying thing to actions- Its like stones being droped into a pond and the biggest stones have the biggest effect of the water therefore your more aware of it or it is brought to you concious easer , trying to be aware of your own thoughts,feelings,actions and consequences but underneath all that is the subconscious thing your concious mind is being drawn to.Its a bit of a paradox i think.
Or at least enlightenment is when you have a full sense of the entirety of it. Not like you’d be watching it as if it were thousands of little TVs, but there would be nothing getting programmed there without your conscious consent, and you’d also have the ability to freely rewire things according to what you believe.
Autistic savants are of interest when you want to put into perspective the subconscious mind. Regular people see this small area of vision, basically the words you are focusing on reading right now, but savants see all that in the peripheral vision equally as clearly, they see the computer, the desk, the stack of cds, and all that is written on them, every letter on the key board, etc etc.
Traits like that make for great detectives, like Bobby Goren on Law and order, he absorbs all this information and can categorise what has value. Many savants cannot dismiss that which is irrelevant so they become overwhelmed with stimuli and shut down or recoil inward.
But the subconscious is like this, that it takes everything in, but most of it is inaccessable to us, apart from something like hypnosis or dreams, but occasionally you can get little snippets of information or compulsions such as intuition or feelings.
The sub-conscious is the gateway through which all experience is attracted through our deep, underlying beliefs and assumptions.
The sub-conscious is your radio network, broadcasting a rich array of vibrations, which consequently attract correlating experiences to reinforce these deep beliefs. Hooray for the Law of Attraction at work!
Great thread : )
I think you become most aware of your subconscious when you are going against it; when you are fighting yourself.
When I am fighting my inner self, my subconscious drives, I get tired, sad, depressed, distracted, unable to perform tasks as well, overall just ineffectual.
I am most attuned with my subconscious when I am completely unaware of it at all, because it merges seamlessly with what I am trying to do in the moment.
It’s important that for practical purposes, everyone in this thread understands that the ‘ratio’ of subconscious brain activity to conscious brain activity is not malleable. There are some functions that can be controlled both consciously and autonomically, but outside of these functions your ‘ratio’ is fixed. Enlightenment is most certainly NOT expanding conscious awareness into previously subconscious-although one could say that one form of enlightenment is being AWARE of the importance of your subconscious, so that you can make informed choices by keeping in mind how your mind is made up.