Suicidal thoughts, letting go, and healing for real (long)
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
The part that gets me is that you are completely right about people and their worth in regards to me and so forth. I know this and acknowledge this to be truth. Often in my mindsets someone’s opinion on a specific matter will matter very little to me if it’s contradictory because of all sorts of bias factors that I’m really good at seeing. If I’m capable of thinking anywhere to my normal train of thought, I’m very good at understanding all sides from a logical point of view. I want to accept and embrace the words you’re saying… I see them and understand the nature of what you’re saying in the abstract sense. And of course you’re right about the girl…. what it really is about is that it becomes a metaphor for my life and the main entree of my large group of friends that I can no longer let myself interact with anymore. It does lead to the looping yet spiraling thought process. My lack of self-worth is based off of a lot of anger issues I have also. I tend to have a kinda rough personality sometimes and will be on the defensive by being on the offensive. I lash out at people, and often time the people I love most. It’s terrible, but when it comes to my friends I can be rude sometimes or too brutally honest. it’s just that half the time it comes from a place where I’m trying to be helpful by offering my candid worldview and it comes out too plainly, and the other half is me being really sarcastic, kinda bitter, critical, and maybe even attention-seeking. The last one is something I know I used to have really badly in years past, but am unable to tell unless it’s already obvious to me I just want some recognition in some way. And I also have this stupid lying compulsion. This personality type doesn’t sit well with people anyways, but I don’t mind too much when I say my mind with good intentions. But this is when I’m not depressed as shit. I have also worked off of low self-esteem and the stupid decisions I’ve made because of it. (cheating every relationship, etc) I’ve moved on for the most part for my past mistakes I’ve made but the feelings that made me able to slide into that lack of integrity is still there. |
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| Kip Goeing
(@kipgoeing)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
Stop JUDGING yourself and just BE yourself. Stop setting EXPECTATIONS; just set GOALS. An important question to answer is, Do you actually believe that your “worth” is less than the worth of all the other people in the world or is it just a feeling that you can’t control? Try to find something that you like thinking about. Something that won’t lead you back to depressing thoughts. Let’s say you like to create new dance moves or something. Make a list of the top 10 starter thoughts for you depressed state. Maybe, “Nobody likes me.” or “I suck at life.” Whenever you have one of those thoughts, mentally scold yourself then immediately devote all of your attention to creating new dance moves (or whatever the thing is that you enjoy thinking about). Make sense? |
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| Nick
(@splashartist)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
@heedthem, “i know all of the tricks of meditation” I’m sorry, but that is completely ignorant. You obviously don’t or else you wouldn’t be in this situation. Everyone goes through peaks and valleys in life, it doesn’t mean you have bi polar disorder. Classifying your regular depression as so only makes it worse and solidifies the idea in your head which creates a self fulfilled prophecy. The key to getting passed this stage along with other peoples ideas above is to live completely in the now. When you remove the story of you and the voice inside your head that’s gives you a false idea of who you are then you will be entirely free from this. But, if you know all of the tricks of meditation you are probably already aware of this. |
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| Ioana Bogdan
(@ioanabogdan)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
Hey @heedthem, You are not alone! Trust me, there are really many people out there who feel similar to the way you do. Many don’t show it, because they’re scared. Many hide in their own little shell. It is truly Brave of you to talk about what’s bothering you, to frame into words pieces of what you’re feeling. Take my advice, whenever you’re feeling down, Write! Write on a piece of paper, keep a journal, write wherever you feel like writing. Express yourself! Draw, if this makes you feel good. Your passions are there to help you and guide you. Sometimes a piece of paper can be a truly great listener. |
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| Alex
(@staylucky)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
@heedthem, Do you mean you don’t think you need to completely cut out weed or really you don’t want to? I didn’t say it to bum you out, but you asked for ways to feel better. So yes, cutting out completely does make you feel better! |
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| Allie
(@alliesull)
6 months, 1 week ago ago
Maybe it would be helpful for you to make amends with the people in, and out of your life. You have lost many of your friends, why? If there is something that happened between you and your friends realize that it is ok as long as you feel at peace with it. If you aren’t at peace with it you should seek closure by forgiving your friends, forgiving yourself, and moving on. You could do this by talking to them or writing a letter and just letting them know where you are coming from. The next step is letting go. It seems as if you want to let go and don’t know how. Try to wake up every morning with a small goal for the day that you know might help you let go of or change the things that bring negativity into your life and help you make your life positive. A lot of things can cause depression, and I am not sure what makes you depressed but that doesn’t matter. All you can do is make some changes in your life and see how you feel. Always remember that every day is a gift and we are all so fortunate to live on this beautiful planet. There is beauty everywhere, maybe you just arent where you are supposed to be right now :) hope this helps. |
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| Almeida
First of all, don’t smoke weed anymore. Never use drugs to make you happy or less sad. I’ll be very sincere with you… In the beginning of this year, when I started to visit HighExistence, the most overwhelming thing I saw was “Happiness is within”. I struggled for months saying to myself “Fuck no, things around me should be well too”, but in the end it’s the truth. Nothing matters, only the present, only you. I too had a lot of depressive and suicidal thoughts and the reason was so simple, all the time in my face: I was not only pessimist about my social status in the present, but also with things I done in my past and things I would do in the future. I did like that: |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago 2
To everyone else: thank you so much for all of your advice, support, and kind words you continued to share while I was gone. There’s a lot of long posts here, but I read all of every single one and I’m grateful for all of them. I will reread everything and seriously contemplate more things. Sometimes this website is all I have to fall back on when things on bad and say my boyfriend isn’t there or anything… Who knows, you might’ve saved a life… |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago
@xetado, @staylucky, |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago
@ioanabogdan, @kipgoeing, I do have an itty bitty notebook I keep in my purse. It’s been good for scrawling painting ideas and philosophy, although I kinda shied away from using it as a diary. But I’m trying to not put myself down or set weird rules and expectations for myself like you suggested. I think that out of all of the advice that people gave me, I think that’s the first step I need to do. You’re right, @kipgoeing, I need to not beat myself up over and over. @ioanabogdan, I believe in my heart that me staying away from those people was the right decision. They were mental/emotional leeches. |
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| Ed
@heedthem, Awesome :) My love goes out to you, good luck |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago
@orange, same to you, Namaste friend |
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| Ioana Bogdan
(@ioanabogdan)
6 months ago ago
@heedthem, What you need is also a Strategy. A simple strategy to make positive thinking effective and make things happen. Give it a try to all the positive things that you enjoy doing and put them into action. And do them often. You need a positive/helpful Routine. Go out (even if it means going out alone), go anywhere, go jogging, sign up to an art class or something like that, somewhere where you can meet different types of people. You need to extend your circle of people if you want to meet positive people. Personally, I’ve always found comfort and a positive attitude by talking to people older than me (I’m 24), grown ups, people in their ’30s-’40s-’50s, people that have learned a lot by their personal experience. Sometimes you don’t find the comfort you need in people of the same age as you are because they also are dealing with their own personal struggle. So, go easy on you, cause you’re not alone in this. Don’t lose hope and stay strong. |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago 1
@ioanabogdan, |
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| lovelysusabella
(@lovelysusabella)
6 months ago ago
@heedthem, Way cool that you went for a drive this morning. Getting out is good for those of us who deal with depression! I have read through this entire thread and have seen some really interesting stuff! One thing I noticed was that you didn’t actually ask for advice, as you mentioned, but that you went with it. My original post was meant to share some of my story, which I do consider successful, even though I still struggle with depression. I wonder what would have happened if you had stopped and watched their game. I wonder if they would have spoken to you. I wonder if that would have resulted in some contact of the human sort. I think following those sorts of desires can be something that actually benefits us because we are giving our brain a new experience! |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago
@lovelysusabella, You’re right about the advice thing, but I really didn’t mind if people threw it in or not. I was just desperate for external voices on my problem. I mostly wanted to talk to other people who had been very depressed/suicidal, and the topic delivered. I did wonder about that myself.. Although I have been considering delving more into the more mature crowd for a couple weeks so perhaps it was just a confirmation or and inspiration. I guess I’ll never know :) I just need to go find my own old ladies. |
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| lovelysusabella
(@lovelysusabella)
6 months ago ago
@heedthem, So awesome that you saw the sign and acted on it! And I love the things you did to take care of yourself and make the drive a good thing for you. I totally get it about not feeling comfortable enough to walk up to strangers like that! I just wonder what would happen if you (or I) did something really unusual like that. I hope you can find your own set of nice old ladies. One place I think you might be able to find them would be at a book group at your local library. Not sure about that, but it might be a lead. Also, I suspect I might be an old lady, from your point of view (51) and I can tell you I would love to be a resource to a young woman, and I know it’s kind of tricky for two people to find each other. But if I were going to be a resource, I would imagine myself meeting with my young friend on a weekly basis or so, over coffee, just listening and caring for her. I would imagine I would be inviting her to my home for a meal or to spend some time with my family (I have five kids and a sweet husband). I would imagine myself inviting her to go to lunch or for a walk in the park or to an art exhibit. I would imagine myself being someone she could call and visit and feel safe with. I know there must be women like myself wherever you are. Tony Robbins teaches that we get more of what look for. So, if you continue to keep your eyes open and look for your old ladies, I know you will find them. Peace to you, @heedthem. |
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| Heed them, HEthen
(@heedthem)
6 months ago ago
@lovelysusabella, Thank you for the inspiration and insight you offered, that was very helpful and a point of view that had been unavailable to me. Those are some nice suggestions, I will further look into those. I love reading, so :) |
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