Synthetic Marijuana-DO NOT DO IT
I’ve been waiting to post this slightly horrifying trip report for some time. For those who think synthetic weed is a safe legal alternative to weed, I’m here to tell you that it just ain’t worth it. I apologize for the length of this report, but I’ve been waiting to get it off my chest for months so here goes.
It was a seemingly normal lazy Saturday afternoon, and me and my buddy were out driving around town. We were out of ganja, but intended on going to a head shop to pick out a new piece that day. After a short conversation with the vendor at the store, we left the head-shop with a brand new bowl and three grams of “spice”. We left the shop, and loaded a fat bowl of this stuff. We downed it in about 5 minutes, and it took both of us higher than we had been in a very long time. We even got the munchies, and so made a quick stop at BK for some burgers.
We both came down in about 45 minutes, and took the opportunity to renew our highs with a few more hits on the way home. We smoked on the highway, and felt the full effects once more, laughing at each other, and how this substance was technically legal, but pot was not. It was at that moment, as I took the exit off the highway and headed for home, that things went from excellent to horribly wrong.
My friend stopped talking to me mid conversation. I looked over at him and laughed, thinking he was messing with me, which is something we do often when on our stoner adventures. He kept his gaze steady, staring out the front of the car for a few minutes, remaining silent to the point where I began to grow annoyed. I pulled off onto a side road, and yelled at him to say something. He turned to me and looked at me from behind the blankest eyes I’d ever seen in my life. Horror instantly crawled its way down my spine. I reached my hand out, touching his chest, asking him if he was alright. He responded by crossing his eyes, and sticking his tongue out, curling it in a grotesque fashion. He then leaned down fast at my arm in an attempt to bite me.
In hindsight, his panic might have been directly brought on by my following actions, but how was I supposed to know something like this could happen over spice? I proceeded to scream at him telling him to handle his shit, and calm down like a man. His face flushed at the sound of my screaming, and he began seizing, as if possessed by some insidious spirit with the intent of killing us both. He flailed is arms, seizing and contorting his body in ways I’d never imagined possible. He kicked out with his foot, smashing out my rearview mirror, and leaving my actual windshield with about two feet of splintered cracks in it. My windshield was on the verge of cracking. All the while I was driving, and trying to keep him in his seat.
I sped down the road and ended up parking in front of a house down a secluded back street. He had flailed his way into my back seat (I drive a coupe, so this is actual quite the feat) and it came to my intention that he was puking violently facing up. Using all my strength, I thrust him onto his stomach, stuck my hand in his mouth, and forced his jaw open so that he would not suffocate himself. He was still puking a seizing, when I noticed a woman storming down the driveway we were parked in front of, on the phone with the cops, pointing at my car.
I pulled the fastest Uie (spelling?) of my life, and got the fuck out of there. It had been about twenty minutes since my friend had started seizing, and I was about to drive him to a hospital when he stopped moving violently, and slid himself back into the passenger seat, with a look on his face that instantly told me that he had no recollection of what had just happened. He looked around the disastrous car in horror, and could only ask “What happened?”
The next few hours consisted of avoiding cops, cleaning my car, and preventing my friend from slipping back into “the void”. He continued to trip out for an hour afterwards, but was generally in control. He claims he has never been the same since. I’ve left out a few details here and there, and summed up the experience to just a few paragraphs. But don’t underestimate the fear that this synthetic substance caused both of us, in the moment, and even now out of it.
It is not safe. It is not an alternative. This could be you. If it had been me, the driver, both me and my friend would likely be dead. I count my blessings every day for that. So everyone out there considering this alternative, keep in mind that this is an unstable, unsafe product that could damage you permanently. We only smoked a bowl and a half of it between two of us.
Have fun, be safe, and smart everybody! Learn from others’ mistakes, and avoid making the same yourselves :)
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I’m sure you mean well, but people prone to psychotic breaks are just as likely to spaz out on weed as they are on any other psychoactive substance.
“Have fun, be safe, and smart everybody!”
“We smoked on the highway, and felt the full effects once more”
We need emoticons.
@laurenlouise, Good description with that Harry potter metaphor. I dig it. Well I’m glad so many people know the deal with this stuff. Ever since my experience, I’ve felt a nagging hatred at the legal system for allowing this substance to occupy shelves while pot users are thrown in jail. It’s truly mind blowing haha
@eruptionwarranty, There have been studies that show that spice can cause psychosis and hallucinations, even after you have stopped smoking it. It can change some of the chemical structures of your brain. I smoked it maybe three to five times. I did this before I even smoked weed. The last time I smoked it, it was the scariest time of my life. I have pretty good control over my thinking when high, so I just kept reminding myself it would go away, that I was just high, but I felt extremely paranoid and hostile. I also felt tremedously hopeless. You know when Harry Potter describes how the dementors make him feel, as if all the happiness had been taken from him? That is how my last trip on spice was. I have’t touched it since.
I’ve smoked a bunch of spice. There were so many types to choose from. My friends and I finally settled on one particular “brand” and it was ok. It was a mellow, weed-like high.
We tried out some other stuff though and I have had some really fucked up trips…I had a completely alien perspective on everything. I felt as if I were trapped in some odd looking meat suit. I was freaking out. My friends tried to help me relax and they were really worried. Everything was distorted and I felt that they were “friends” but I had no idea who they or even I was. My home was unfamiliar and I had trouble adapting to this “vessel”.
Thinking about it again, It definitely was an interesting experience that I’ve never encountered before. I think I freaked out because I was unprepared for it. It was so radically different than just your basic high.
Another time I just had waaaaaayyyy too many thoughts in my head, like an over-crowded Japanese subway train. Way too often my mind would flood with thoughts I really didn’t want to think…they felt so negative and ugly. It made me very aware of some of my emotional “issues” and neurosis.
Anyways, the stuff we settled on, we smoke a shit ton of. No issues, just lots of munchies!
It’s illegal in this area now though and I couldn’t care less. It was never my favorite. I like the real and natural stuff! Not that I can get high anymore anyways!
Should you be smoking on the highway!? Probably not. But yeah that’s not the point I get it …
Shit man yeah, I’ve never heard of anything as scary as this, but all the times I’ve witnessed people fuck around with these legal highs (I never have; I tend to be smoking a real J instead) they’ve have had some horrible, or at least disappointing, experiences. From migraines to full-on paranoid trips … it seems to me these legal highs seem to possess all the bad effects of the drug they’re supposed to replicate, with few or none of the good things. It’s the same with other legal highs, not just the marijuana equivalents – legal ‘powders’ seem to amount to little more than snorting a comedown and opiates just leave you unable to sleep. I know a few people who smoke salvia on occasion, without ill effect: they all exclaim how ‘MENTAL’ it is, but a 10 minute trip you can’t remember? Sounds pretty pointless.
Maybe my ability to discuss this is hampered by the fact I’ve never tried this shit, but I’d rather just stick to things that I generally know the effects of. Like with all things, just be careful and forewarned of potential dangers, I guess! But legal definitely doesn’t mean safer … but everyone knows that …
@jaminslack, Exact same thing happened to me, being trying describe the vision I had but you got it spot on “experiencing all events ever to happen in the universe at all times, an infinite amount of times”.
I tried a blend called Pandora’s box. I should have done some research first because the name should have put me off. Found out the name if from Greek mythology -all-gifted”, “all-giving” which contained all the evils of the world. Scary right? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora's_box
Basically without knowing I was going to smoke a blend that was going to scare the shit out of me. Which it did… This is what happened…
Took two hits from a bong and it got me straight away, extremely intense! Paranoia anxiety kicked straight away. I was thinking what if my parents find me here smoking this shit (at the time they were at work and would not be back for hours) but in this state I thought they were on there way home so I quickly packed everything up put it away in my room. Thought everything was safe I’ll just ride this trip out in my room, but then I started to hear voices calling i swear i could hear neighbours calling from outside the house that they knew I was up to no good having a smoke etc. At this stage I was shitting it. Fast heart beat shaking etc. I started calling out “hello who’s there what the hell is going on, is someone in the house?”
I was really not with it now, I decides to walk outside my front door of my house, but suddenly my front door closed behind me, it came to my attention that I did not have a key or phone on me. And this is where the shit starts to go crazy. I swear I hear the house burglar alarm going off. Shit shit shit I start to think I’m stuck outside my own house and I can’t get in and I need to turn off the alarm before the police call and turn up. I was in sheer panic!
Moment later I think I start to here a large convoy vehicle with a swat team and police are coming to get me, I think and hear a police helicopter above me. I don’t know what the fuck is going on. Next thing I’m tormented by thoughts that this is a setup someone is trying to frame me for burglary and purchasing legal highs!? Every time I took step forward anywhere and thought what I should do next these different scenarios of different consequences would occur vivid visions. Eg if I I walked out into the street I would get shot by the swat team!!! Fucked I know.
I somehow manager visualise a safe route in my head to get back into my house. Not sure how long this took possibly an hour? Next thing I know have these intense visions of repetitive patterns and that everything is one and united (not in a nice pleasant way but in hardcore this is the truth of your reality accept it!!!) Then next thing I know I wake from the floor of my kitchen facedown in vomit and have a large gash on the back of my head!
This was not good I called my gf but could not remember any of the conversation we had, I then called an ambulance because I was terribly confused. I found out I had concussion from where I smacked my head on something and had to stay the night in hospital!
Don’t do legal highs they fucked up!
So just made this profile to share my experience with this fucking aweful fake weed. Here it goes: just quit smoking it after about 2 years nearly every day (nearly EVERY fucking day, multiple times a day). Im addicted to it, and not an addictive person just thought I liked getting high. I had a few bad experiences with it, namely rapid hearbeat, anxiety, paranoia, and scariest of all 1 time I got sp tripped out I thought I was either gonna die or becone mentally retarded then proceeded to have seizure-like convulsions and I couldnt breathe and my wife called 911 (still smoked it after this, hence the addiction). Anyways its been a week since I quit and ive b.en noticing sometimes my heart is just beating unnaturally fast for absolutely no reason. I hate going to the doctor but im thinking about making an appt to get checked out, dont know if the shits still in my system or im jist freaking out, ill give it another week or so. One time I smoked it and my mind was literally transported to ramdom events in my past and my wife told me I was blabbering like an idiot and hissing like voldemort and I also tried to lick her nose in a veey weird way tht made her uncomfortable. By the way the only thing I remember is my visions no words or the lick or anything and it lasted about 20 minutes. Just so nobody thinks im an idiot (even tho I am) the reason I smoked it so long is bc I smoked real weed forever and got a union job and had to quit (not addicted to “real” just a relaxing habit) and wanted to simply get high. I quit weed no problem at all… this shit is addicting. Maybe not to u or your friends but me it is. Im gonna leave my profile active for a while just so ppl can read this and maybe I can save one person from making a life altering decision… then imgonna delete it bc I dont do the whole internet thing at all eccept funny videos and shit. FAKE WEED IS BAD!!!! Just to mention my pulse is like a machine gun right now and im just sitting on my couch watching the hangover…. not good. Please take this post into consideration and be smart. All in all: fake=bad/real=good
Ive heard and read worse horror storys about this shit
Do not use Spice! You have an endocannabinoid that is specifically designed to work with Cannabis’s main psychoactive chemicals: THC and CBD. What synthetics basically do is force similar compounds that produce similar effects into those receptors: like jamming a car key into a house lock, wtf do you think is gonna happen?
Inform yourselves about your own body and substances before you hurt yourself.
Peace Love and Soul
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@eruptionwarranty, The first time I tried spice I smoked it alone in my room. After about half an hour and bowl later I passed out. I had this intense vision that I could only describe as “experiencing all events ever to happen in the universe at all times, an infinite amount of times”. It was an awful experience. When I woke up, my heart was racing and I was convinced that I was dying. I called my girlfriend and told her that I was having a heart attack. Needless to say that caused a lot of upset. For nearly a month after that time I had changed into something else. I felt like the world around me was a lie and that nothing was really there. It was the scariest feeling in my life. It took a long time for me to overcome that feeling and I will never go back to that horrible substance that is supposedly legal.
This is the same
Way I’m feeling right now but the difference is that I’ve been feeling like that for 10 months now and I only smoked it once , I feel like I’m going to go insane , it also really messed up weed for me now when I smoke weed I feel paranoid and crazy like if the drug turned me insane . I can’t go a day without thinking that everything is fake and it’s really not a good feeling at all I feel like throwing up when that happends , I’m going crazy :( please help I’m only 18
Hi Kev, my name is cameron and I go around various Forums about this stuff to help people like you. I had thee act same experience when I was 18 which led to depression and an extreme existential crisis. You are not going insane, and these symptoms will soon pass. I too felt as if everything was ‘fake’ but this sensation will pass. After such a traumatic event our minds go into protective mode often leaving you with a detached feeling from reality. As if you are watching a movie of your life from behind your eyes. Just let time pass and you’ll come out on top my friend. I concentrated on exercise, art and yoga which relieved every symptom. How you feel right now is just a state of mind, that can and will go. So chin up my friend and find a hobby you enjoy and get good at it. Before my bad trip I couldn’t run 2km after passing time focusing on fitness, I can now run 20km at a really good pace. Seriously man it will be okay :) just smile and get on with your life. Message me if you need to talk more. Peace and love homie.
Had to post this had similar experience today.
ive smoked weed before and never had problems but today was first time i tried synthetic “bombay blue”
within 1 minute i felt heavy and sat down. Everything started feeling really intense, vision was all shaky like i was watching a movie and constantly stopping and replaying. Realised it wasnt my normal reaction and felt like heart rate started to shoot up high.
I then just felt heavy and focused at one point on the wall for 10 minutes not being able to move to get water or pick up my glasses. I was very confused while riding these intense waves like i was falling. After 10-12minutes i felt sick and vomited and remained on floor for next hour until the shaky vision stopped and my confusion was gone.
Weird thing was after like 1 hour 30 minutes i completely snapped out of it and was close to 100% normal
will say if you ever try it make sure environment is calm like dont take it and listen to skillx that would of been so so bad.
very weird reaction for sure but my friend was 100% fine could walk around and was even hungry.
I’ve had a psychotic break-down on real marijuana, so I can imagine the effects of any fake shiz, being much worse. A guy asked the friend who I was with, while in my own neighborhood, if he could find any K-2… It’s been illegal in PA since 2010, thank God.
@illusionist, Haha I always use the ole “I believe enough that the placebo effect will take care of everything” line to.
It is definetely all about the individual. My couzin has smoke more k than anyone I have ever met “by FFFAAARR”and he’s never had an issue, but my other buddy smoked one of the strongest ones out there one time and tripped so hard that he didn’t know ANYTHING about himself. He kept saying Cody tell me who I am and I was thinking he meant philisophically or something haha. No help from me, but he handled it really well because that was all he said for the whole 15 minute period that he was gone.
Do what you want but make sure your aware that you can get FUCKED UP off just one hit of the strongest brands, so be careful.
Peace & Love
Tried it this morning almost died it was an intense buzz and I’ve never felt so detached from the world and everything around me started choking on my spit forgot how to breath it was like I had forgotten about everything and everyone just remember being extremely tense and scared of something mate reckons I looked very angry and twitchy then I coughed up spit for about 30 seconds and blacked out 5 mintues after that I was back to normal I remember hearing shit but not being able to respond …… not for a weekend smoker !!!!
On the flip side my mates reaction was a blank expression for about 10 minutes and that’s it but he smoke s*%t loads of weed
I’ve smoked loads of Marijuana and I’ve never been this confused
This appears to be a very interesting thread. I recently realized my adult son is doing this stuff and it explains a lot as to all of his bizarre actions. He has been having siezures and I told him and he denied it and my brother also saw him having a seizure and he denied it he doesn’t ever remember it happening. I am hoping to get him help. Does anyone know how addictive this is? I do not know but I am curios.
Another horror story; A friend of mine (admittedly with a history of schizophrenia in her family) went off the rails after smoking synthetic weed (from a bong, unwisely), and it triggered a psychotic episode.
I still smoke it though, but I have no such history in my family.
So, if you have, or suspect you have a history of mental illness in your family, steer clear, or at the VERY least, only smoke it in joints. Said friend of mine continues to smoke it in joints, with no adverse effects, but she will never do a cone again.
@josephm, Thank you Joseph, for your video again, maybe one day I find the original of the species, but I can’t send the seeds or the plant, for the points I mentioned, but all the cannabians of the world may feel happy for it still exists.. if I’m wrong, and the things walk in another way, and a small piece of the forest may travel, I’ll have an immense pleasure on sending it, but know that this very cannabis if smoked in Amazon would be different. I leave the topic really happy, and at the same time very sad, for what I’ve read and seen. Thank you all,
I am so worried about my husband. I recently found out that he has been smoking this synthetic weed stuff regularly for at least 2 years and it explains a lot. He used to be a loving person and great to be around but now he is constantly moody, aggressive, mean and about to lose his job. We have a 19 month old son and everything anyone could want or need, but he is slowly destroying our lives. I don’t know what to do or how to help him. I am on the verge of leaving so my son doesnt have to witness all this, but if I can help him I want to, but I really dont know how!
He has been doing this behind my back, I found out a few times over the years and he promised to stop, although that obviously didnt last long. This last time he went crazy at me, calling me all the names under the sun, I felt like I didnt even know him. He has done this a few times but the stuff he is saying now is really low – like he wishes I was dead! the next morning he apologises and begs that I forgive him, this is becoming a regular thing…abusing me and then begging for forgiveness this cycle can happen continuously in the matter of an hour. I am really worried about his mental health.
Anyway, the other night it happened again and the next day we talked and he levelled with me, telling me how bad the addiction was. He says he wants help. Any advice on how to?
@metalicbleu, make him quit if he hasnt already youll thank me and everyone else for it honestly
I shouldve taken the time to read the wholw thread before posting but it was too long. He is what I used to be. I used to be ambitious and nwver even sit down I was always doing sometjing then started smoking thw shit and my life qent to hell…. never left my housw, smoked constantly, depression, paranoia every time I hear a car I look out my window…. getting better now tht I quit but taking a while.
Ive had every single reaction in this thread at least once ezcept vomitting
I think ive even had a few minor heartattacks.. rapid beating left arm numb no extreme pain tho.. tht could have been just me thinking I was having one tho… oh and I havwnt expwriwnced death obviously. But I kno if I keep smoking itll be the reason of my demise. Scary feeling. Please make him quit youll gwt ur bf back and ur old life together will slowly come back sorry formisspellings got big fingers on a small keyboard and typing fast
I personally hate synthetic marijuana. I’ve smoked some while in Japan because it was the only thing around (it’s not that easy to find weed/hash over there) and that thing fucked me up so bad. One time I was drinking beers and smoking (only a few hints though, that’s the surprising thing and the thing I hate about synthetic MJ), I began feeling so weird, couldn’t even hold my beer. At one point my friend left to a club, I decided to stay home, then changed my mind, I kind of blacked out and woke in the subway in the morning.
And other time we smoked before going to a club. I got so paranoid (and I’m not the type who gets paranoid on weed, I’m a regular smoker though i took a break from daily-non-stop-smoking) I thought people in the club were trying to fucking kill me, hid under tables and ended out blacking out that time too.
3rd time was at a friend’s house, we smoked, same thing happened, my body felt so numb I decided to sleep on the kitchen’s floor (the party was just beginning, I can remember passing by asking what the fuck I took).
Seriously, stay away from this stuff. At least I will probably never have a go at this.