I’ve been doing the 5 rites for roughly a month now. I’ve been doing what this guy is doing here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gWJo2mpI-w&list=PLF70CC4D87D06657F&index=19&feature=plpp_video
But today while researching the benefits of the exercises I find out that I might be doing the last rite’s (downward dog to upward dog) breathing wrong. I usually exhale in the downward and inhale to upward dog as is done in the video above. But on some websites it’s the opposite. How do you do it?
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Inhale on upward motion, exhale on downward, just like on all the other exercises.
@moni, There are six rites, not five. The “5 tibetan rites” stuff is just the popular “commercionalized” concept. Why was the last one excluded, because people would see it and go “What the fuck? This is bullshit, I’m not doing that. That must mean it’s all shit.”
The sixth rite is a forced powerful version of the taoist “big draw,” with the added effect of “sealing” your outlets. Put simply, it kills your sexdrive, which lets your body use that energy for other tasks. It has many benefits, but it’s unnecessary, there are better methods for accomplishing the same goal without sealing anything up. And besides, there’s not point in doing the sixth rite unless you’re old or a celibate monk/nun.
@coldxstar3, Do it first thing in the morning. I go running a while after doing it. You gotta let your body cool down a bit after doing the rites (don’t get cold/chill though.)
@manimal, You have to gain the joy of sharing things you’re interested in and support, and possibly bring someone else the satisfaction that a certain practice has allowed you to have.
Experience may be the best teacher, but it’s most certainly not the only teacher. Time is precious, and learning about things second-hand can be a great way to discover whether or not the experience is worthwhile.
I didn’t say I wasn’t open to the experience, I just qualified my experience by saying that I don’t believe in what I would call the spiritual aspects of the practice, just that they might help the body biologically.
Your post coincides well with your stated philosophy of not helping people unless in cases of apprenticeship. That just seems to me like a lazy excuse, why not share with me what makes this practice worthwhile to you? If experience is the best teacher, share what you’ve learned through experience so that I might do the same.
I noticed I get a better stretch if i have exhaled by the time I am at the peak of the position (the downward static position of downward dog for example). I feel a longer stretch in my spine. The Rites really get my back and spine into gear if I wake up and my body is rigid.
@eyesopen, I don’t gain joy from anything, I’m just joyful.
Experience is the only real teacher. Sure I can suggest things, explain things, and so on, but you don’t know until you’ve experienced for yourself.
I don’t believe in any of that spiritual stuff either, nonetheless these rites work wonders.
I have never said anything about not teaching outside apprenticeship. Hell, that’s what I do most of the time.
What makes this practice worthwhile to me? The great physical (and mental) wellbeing it produces. It’s that simple. But it really is something, I’ve tried a lot of different stuff but the results of these rites are hard to match.
@manimal, Thanks for the response. You mentioned your philosophy on helping in a post a few days ago, I believe in that thread about things you do against the norm? Or possibly the ’5 things about you’ one.
Anyways, I’m glad to hear benefits claimed by someone who sees it only as a stimulating exercise. Perhaps it deserves more of my time before I can be certain it’s not for me.
@eyesopen, You blew the statement out of proportion. “I only teach a man a fish, I never give a man a fish” doesn’t mean I don’t help people, it just means no handouts or pointless comforting. But I realize that I was being vague and unclear.
I really think you should give the rites another go. They really have some great results.
It gives you that morning exercise energy boost in just a few minutes, while at the same time stretching you out, and at the same time you’re doing breathing practice. It’s an effective 3-in-1. It gets rid of back pain and most joint pain, makes you more flexible, improves muscle tone (not mass, just tone) let’s blood and other fluids move more easily in your body (meaning better oxygenation and happier moods.) Last but not least it stimulates your endocrine glands nicely.
Whenever you hear someone explaining something in a spiritual way, they’re most likely just trying to describe something without the proper technical knowledge of how it works. Or they’ve listened too much to such people, and fail to realize that’s what spiritualism is all about. Spiritual explanations are just a way to say (“I don’t know how this works, but I can see a pattern here, this principle must be at work but I don’t know any details or terms so I’ll just say it’s ghosts and faeries.”)
@manimal, Ah, I see what you intended to express. I can see how doing the rites on a daily basis could be beneficial, but it was hard to discern those benefits among the piles of bullshit on the subject as with any practice that claims a spiritual nature. Perhaps I’ll give it another go, it’s a very small time commitment to make for a good boost.
I think you’ve made a very blunt yet profound statement here on the nature of the unknown. I think understanding it as you’ve described makes some people appear much more rational than I might’ve thought them before.
Thanks for the insight bud
What the literal fuck? I just posted something about the sixth Tibetan Rite in another discussion before I ever saw this….hmm, synchronicity…
I haven’t ever done any of the first 5, but I think this is a sign that I should start.
And why do they call it the 5 rites when there are actually 6. Is it because the 6th is saved for certain circumstances?
I’ve tried doing them for about two weeks consistently, and just felt like it was pointless. I don’t believe in any of the Qi/chakra crap, I just viewed them as stretches/exercises to do in the morning to wake up in addition to strenuous exercise and I feel that there are plenty of better alternatives. Anyone wanna sell me on them?
@eyesopen, Yeah spiritual stuff is just the superficial veneer, the way used to explain things. Don’t get lost in that superficial bullshit, whether it’s spiritual or not, or you miss the point. There’s a lot of wisdom in a lot of spiritual teachings, but I agree that their way of explaining it is really wacky. The problem is that most spiritualists fail to see this fact that the explanations are just a veneer, an illusion necessary for human interpretation, they think it’s real. That’s the problem. And a lot of such people are on this site.
That’s where all those weird stories about prominent people worshipping various deities (usually the devil haha) come from. They’re really just normal rational people who apply some of the stuff that’s usually found in occultist writings. People confuse that with spiritual worship, because they are too short-sighted to look beyond the wordings and metaphors.
Just like the concept of atoms. Atoms aren’t really real, there are no little balls of mass that are the smallest building block of matter (the very name atom implies that it cannot be split,) what’s really there are electron orbits, tiny electromagnetic fields that consist of mostly nothing.
Maybe you watched “Once upon a time… life” as a kid. If you did watch it, did you really believe that there were little people walking around in your body? Or did you realize they were just icons used to describe things in a more easily understood way?
That’s exactly how spiritualism and religion came to be, but then they became misinterpreted and perverted beyond recognition.
Keep your mind open and look beyond the superficial words, and a whole new world of “shit makes sense yao” will appear in front of your eyes.
@eyesopen, You’ve proven your unwillingness to try, why should we convince you?
None of us has anything to gain from convincing you to do it. Only you do, but then again that depends on what you consider gain.
Trying something out for two weeks, that’s barely even trying it out at all. So whether it’s good or bad is really beyond your understanding because you have not had the experience needed to validate such claims.
If you need someone to sell you on something before you even try… then you won’t get far. People talk a whole lot of bullshit, and everyone has personal experiences and opinions and belief systems. You can never learn anything real from listening to other people.
Experience is the only real teacher. Whether the rites are good or bad, you can only know through experience. If you want to know, then go do it some more. Not doing = not knowing, that’s the truth.
Been giving these a go for a few weeks now and I feel great and relaxed after I do them. The 6th rite is the only one I feel I need to perfect and I’m not quite sure how many you should do. I know its ok to do 21 for the first 5, but I read somewhere you shouldn’t do anymore than 2 for the 6th. Anybody know anything about this?
@moni, it’s so cool hearing about others doing the Rites! Have you kept up with this practice over the past few months? I recently took it up about 40 days ago and I have never felt better. I inhale going up into the v and exhale on my way down. And the sixth rite is supposed to be reserved for individuals who are celibate. Although it isn’t officially part of the 5 Rites, some say it makes you into a superhuman (whatever that means!) Over the last two days I have been debating over whether or not to incorporate the sixth rite into my daily practice. If you are still doing the rites, have you found that with time the benefits increase?
Hi there, i have just started the 5 rites and am already looking forward to doing the exercises when i rise in the morning. I had a question and it is that in the book , ‘Ancient Secrets of the Fountain of Youth’, it recommends not having a cold bath or shower as this would annul the beneficial effects of the rites. I like to swim in the outdoors, and am worrying it might do just that. Does the advise mean it’s best not to chill yourself straight after doing the rites or not to chill the body at all? Any advice/comments appreciated.
@murph94, The most simple and easily-applied method, and the one I recommend, is to simply draw it up manually using the “cool draw.” Or while having sex using the “hot draw” or “big draw” technique. How to do it? Just breathe deeply and draw the tension from your groin up your spine. If you get a headache it’s time to stop and breathe.
Also, keep the muscles of your groin and core really strong, it will prevent “leaking.” Being healthy in general helps too.
But really, if you have decent self-control (and/or use the techniques I talked about) the sixth rite is completely unnecessary unless you’re old.