The Death Of Qaddafi

3 years, 5 months ago

I wanted to start a discussion; I thought this would be a good subject.

I know I’m a few days late and all…

Anyone who is interested, please insert vids or pics as you like.

Personally, I’ve been waiting for that nutball (Qaddafi) to go since the hostility began. I get self-satisfaction out of him perishing; I shouldn’t, though. I’m glad he’s gone.

October 23, 2011 at 4:48 pm

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Profile photo of Nick Nick (@nick) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

I haven’t been following the Qaddafi in the news much, so I’m not too familiar with his recent actions as leader of Libya, but from what I’ve heard, he’s been made out that he’s some sort of insane dictator or something of that ilk. I found this article, though I have no proof of the points in it, so you’ll have to confirm them, or otherwise if they’re false.

http://sweetseani.tumblr.com/post/11729437481

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Profile photo of Nick Nick (@nick) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

I haven’t been following the Qaddafi in the news much, so I’m not too familiar with his recent actions as leader of Libya, but from what I’ve heard, he’s been made out that he’s some sort of insane dictator or something of that ilk. I found this article, though I have no proof of the points in it, so you’ll have to confirm them, or otherwise if they’re false.

http://sweetseani.tumblr.com/post/11729437481

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Profile photo of Ka Ka (@kaciula) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Jesusbob, Very well said.

I want to add that in my country, Romania, in 1989 there was a revolution that removed the communist regime. Not even now, do we really know what happened there but one hypothesis that is frequently circulated is that actually the CIA orchestrated the revolution. Note that in 1989 Romania had 0 debt to any country in the world. Nowadays we are neck-deep in debt and we have to allow american military bases, we have to give american companies various development projects etc.

Also, an interesting read would be Confessions of an economic hitman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confessions_of_an_Economic_Hit_Man). I see a lot of similarities from that book with what happens in my country at the moment.

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Profile photo of HiddenMess HiddenMess (@hiddenmess) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

Now, Nick, that link is fuel for the philosophical mind. I have heard differently in Matt’s videopost, contrary to your point #5, that the literacy rate has increased by 83%, not up to 83%. .25x 1.83= .45 (expressed in percentages) is still good progress.

I will continue to review some of these allegations contained in your link, just because I should hold decent journalistic standards. Thank you.

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Profile photo of Matt Matt (@greenthinker) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

@Jesusbob wow, so now America is going to go “help” Uganda? I sincerely agree that Uganda needs help more than most nations in the world do, but if this turns into a violent war with the LRA I will be very disappointed in America.

To me it seems like we go about helping countries the wrong way. Take Afghanistan for example, we went there to eliminate al qaeda and instill democracy. We went in there guns loaded and it took us 10 years, and i would still say we accomplished nothing. What we could have done was tell OPEC to refuse oil from any country with known al qaeda ties, which would probably be 90% of the countries OPEC does business with. If OPEC refused then we, and hopefully the rest of our allies, would refuse to buy from OPEC. Since I think America is the top oil consumer in the world this decision will have some weight behind it. The countries who are no longer making money will probably do 1 of 2 things: 1. actively search out al qaeda members and force them to leave or 2. go to war with America. I think you will see though that if these countries decided to go to war with us, they have no steady income anymore and they will run out of money as soon as they attempt to mobilize. This whole situation would probably cost the US an extreme amount of money in oil GDP because we will have to support our own country with our own oil, however I don’t give a fuck because human lives are priceless.

It just seems like by entering a country with guns we are stooping to the level of an under developed country. We have the ability to fight a war intellectually, but yet we CHOOSE to put our men and women at risk.

Thoughts?

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Profile photo of aden aden (@abwelly) 3 years, 5 months ago ago

yes gaddafi is dead but his patners in crime are still alive.im talking about our western leaders .do you think the intervention by nato was to help libya get its freedom? of course not,it was about securing natural resources mainly oil.there is no doubt that gaddafi was a unfit leader,but he was a dictator still when the western leaders were in good terms with him because as far as they were concerned they were getting what they wanted which is oil.Thanks to the revolution in egypt the people finally revolted against him ,once the western leaders saw this ,they knew gaddafi time has finished ,so they did what any imperialist power hungry empire would do and that is to hijack the revolution and present to us a distorted context of what actually happened thanks to the “media” which is nothing but a propaganda tool.

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