The Death Of Qaddafi
I wanted to start a discussion; I thought this would be a good subject.
I know I’m a few days late and all…
Anyone who is interested, please insert vids or pics as you like.
Personally, I’ve been waiting for that nutball (Qaddafi) to go since the hostility began. I get self-satisfaction out of him perishing; I shouldn’t, though. I’m glad he’s gone.
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Why do you say that you shouldn’t? Celebrating the loss of life may not be justified but celebrating the loss of an oppressive dictator and the new found freedom of an entire people certainly is. The concept that no one life is more valuable then another is idealistic and illogical. Rejoice that he’s gone and don’t have remorse for it.
@Matt and @Alex, very insightful perspectives – at least very wise approaches. It’s always worth considering what may could be being sold when certain information or opinions are being widely fed to the populace. But remember. As Voltaire notes, it’s dangerous to be right in issues where the government is wrong. I think this may be why people like Qadaffi are killed – and to be killed is why they’re villainized in the first place.
Here’s my main thought, one to end the hubris that starts threads like this:
“There may be something I do not know, the knowing of which could change everything.”
Perhaps I was wrong to parallel some of his actions to nazi germany but you get the point. Maybe a better comparison would be to an extreme version of Hammurabi’s Code, the concept of an eye for an eye; except in this case the first eye is homosexuality and the second one is jailtime.
@Ray, You have a great point. Almost all of our public media outlets have politic agendas and thus, put a spin on the news we hear.
@Matt, Cudos for the research but you may want to read up on Gaddafi’s entire reign and style of rule. Needless to say, it was effective (comparatively to other arab countries) for the economy and certainly profitable for him and his constituents. The real question though, is at what cost to the average citizen these came at. Authoritarian governments only work when the people are willing to submit to the will of the leader and when they decide they would rather be free, the Arab Spring happens.
Hey, Daniel. I think you’re right. My self-satisfaction is fine, but I don’t like saying it…if that makes any sense.
I’m really glad Qaddafi is gone. I hope this eradicating-evil-dictators trend continues onward to other nations with similar success.
@Nightowl I see what you are saying.
Having said that, can anyone find any articles about Gaddafi killing his own people? I ask because I cannot.
Do you guys think we will ever know if al qaeda are in control of the oil, before it is too late? Do you think NATO would ever admit they supported al qaeda, even if by mistake? I don’t mean to be a fear mongerer, i think that is a valid question.
Qadhafi was a dictator that was put in place and maintained there by our own governemnts, much like many dictators throughout the developing world. In his attempt to change his currency to be gold based -as pointed out something that makes a lot of sense for a developing nation that wants to pull away from the US dollar based exchange currently in place- combined with the energy contracts Libya held with China and his refusal to have Amercian forces bases on his soil, it was decided to remove him from power and establish a friendlier regime that would toe the line much more to our liking.
Any bit of BS propoganda that has been filtered down to the masses by our north american media regarding this being a “homegrown, organic movement” are completely fabricated.
He had out lived his usefulness and needed to be removed, just like everyones favorite leader for life over in Iraq, Saddam. He was put in place to be a puppet of the first world countries so we could continue to be supplied by his oil. Once he made plans to alter the oil deal in order to actually benefit African nations over US, France, UK, he was doomed to be pulled down.
So who is really the “evil” ones here? The puppet or the puppetter? Our wonderful, democratic, advanced nations use strong armed men like Qadhafi -and have for decades- in order to keep the populations under an iron-rule and no one begins to ask questions like, “Why is Libyan oil (or Iraqi) not being used to help Libyan people?”
(actually, on a world wide look at dictators, Qadhafi did actually help his people considerably more than say Kim Jong Il in North Korea does)
Our governments have come to the conclusion that propping up dictators to do our dirty work in developing nations will no longer work thanks to such advances like the internet which makes it increasingly more difficult to pull the wool over their citizens eyes regarding such blatent support for dictatorships.
So now, we just “liberate” countries, assist them in forming VERY pro- western “democracies”, use western companies to rebuild/own/operate all major strategic resources in the country, and continue to keep them under our thumb, all under the guise of democracy. Oh, and why not add a lovely American military base while we are at it….
Please research all this yourselves before celebrating the murder of another human being. US presidents over the past 10 years are responsible for the deaths of WAY more innocent civilians on the world scale than Ghadafi killed throughout his entire 40 year regime, but we call it “collateral damage” when we do it, and murder when the big bad dictator does it.