The demise of traditional music.

2 years, 6 months ago

I have a hard time believing this topic has not already been brought up on here, so if so please let me know.
I was having a drunken argument last night with a friend who eats, sleeps, and breathes music. He plays banjo, guitar, and probably a few other instruments, and talks shit on modern day music. He’s fighting what I kinda see as a losing battle to make people realize that “real” music(played with instruments) is better than music made with a computer. This is an argument I’ve had with multiple people and I’m still not sure where I stand.

Typing this right now, my fingertips are sore from picking up a guitar for the first time in months and months, so I can imagine the frustration one must feel at button pusher musicians getting all the recognition(this is not to say that that genre takes less talent, at all. I for one have a hard time believing that something like talent can be quantified). I feel something slightly similar though not as passionately toward traditional art(painting/drawing) vs. graphic design. I am biased toward my own art form and feel slight annoyance at the computerization of art but also have to accept that that’s the direction we’re all heading and I’m not about to try to swim against the current.

This was kind of a rant of thoughts so what are your guys’s?

August 28, 2012 at 6:41 am

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Profile photo of R.V. Star R.V. Star (@rickvonstar) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, the point is not that someone worked really hard playing an instrument, the point is that good music was produced and enjoyed by others

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Profile photo of Ben Ben (@cognizantelephant) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, I think I can value good music more than the work that was put into it. It would be like saying I enjoy some dude’s music more than ..IDK The Beatles? because that guy made a song out of toothpicks falling from the empire state building while tripping on acid – It doesn’t mean it’s gonna be good.

The recognition part is somewhat hard to quantify I agree. Because the first things we think when we hear some new artist is like ‘what instruments are those, they sound like so and so, oh my god they know me’, etc. Their talents are often lost to the majority of people simply noticing familiarities of their thoughts and the ideas portrayed by the musicians. They get marketed. Now they have their songs written for them, tours around everywhere, and they perform at the next music awards. What can we do? eyyy

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Profile photo of Brandon P'naantan Pinkney Brandon P’naantan Pinkney (@hlalhabattu) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, thank you for bringing this up both in terms of music and visual arts (totally there with you). these days music has grown to encompass more than it ever has in recorded history, at least in my opinion, for better or worse . there is a big divide between traditional (organic) music and digital (inorganic) and while I always stand by my traditional stuff, I can certainly see the appeal of dubstep, trip hop and the like because at the end of the day, electronic stuff is like a science, if you do your research on frequencies and how they affect the human condition, you’ve got yourself a “aural drug” of sorts.

what to me really separates them, other than the obvious technological aspect, is emotion. it’s strange because musical instruments have an uncanny ability to let us channel our emotional state through them , which in turn we (the listeners) receive and are immersed in. never have I ever actually felt that from any sort of strictly electronic music, it to me feels sterile in a way, just noise and vibrations meant to elicit an artificial response.

however

magic can sometimes happen when the two mix , which begs the question “where do we go from here”?

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Profile photo of Floater Floater (@grantgodfrey7) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Is real music gone?

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Profile photo of Brandon P'naantan Pinkney Brandon P’naantan Pinkney (@hlalhabattu) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@grantgodfrey7, nope, you just gotta go looking past the bilboard top ___ and the radio
it’s everywhere

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Profile photo of Nate Nate (@admajoranatussum) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Yeah I mean I think art is art. A guitar is a piece of technology in itself. And when electric guitars and rock music became popular, people thought that these too were ruining “real music.” Ironically what we call “real music” is what others said was once the demise of “real music,” so it’s all a matter of perspective. Whether we like it or not, the world continues to change and technology continues to develop.

However, I am of the opinion that electro/house music in particular has less soul than non-computerized music, simply because it is designed to create sensations in the body, rather then the heart.

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Profile photo of Alicia Lee Alicia Lee (@aliwine) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

Bring back the hide drums (Y)

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@tangledupinplaid21, I completely agree with you and could go on forever about why. However, just to play devils advocate, what makes art better than other art?

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Profile photo of TheSkaFish TheSkaFish M (@theskafish) 2 years, 6 months ago ago

@tangledupinplaid21, I don’t think traditional music is going anywhere, I’m sure there are lots of people who like both music played with instruments as well as electronic music. That, and there are a lot of revivalist bands that resurrect old styles with their own twist on the genre, their own unique sound. Personally, I prefer rock to electronica, and using your art example, I’m sure there will always be those who prefer the act of painting, or viewing paintings as opposed to computer-generated artwork. All it does is add more variety into what’s out there.

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