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Soul… isn’t that the way you express your feelings ? For example the term Soul-mate – If someone rejects you, you think it’s your soul-mate and you cry in a corner of your room. Ah, bullshit.
I am still wondering why this guy takes himself so seriously. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY39fkmqKBM
Isn’t it completely hilarious? Or just mental. Gingers have souls! You don’t know me! THUG LIFE!
A thought I like to contemplate is the illusion of self. I am not my body, I am not my actions, words or thoughts. So what I am?
An answer that arrives pretty naturally is well I am a soul, I am manifestation of a spirit or consciousness that is woven into the fabric of the universe itself. I am a special piece of that grand spirit and I borrow many bodies from life to life to learn different lessons.
But then I look out into the night sky and and wonder with amazement at the vast size and scope of the universe and I think, how in the hell could I matter? Would there be a soul that follows some set of rules and travels from body to body to learn a lesson. We are less than a bacteria to the universe so why do we think we are important enough to have some piece of divine energy that belongs to us alone?
So from that line of thinking I began to think the soul is just another trap into the illusion of self. That’s what I think souls are, just another way for us to grasp for a self.
Maybe Earth is alive and animates every living thing. We can communicate wirelessly over the internet… Who’s to say that we aren’t plugged into some kind of Earthbrain/Consciousness.
Maybe that is responsible for sleep cycles. One part of the planet going to sleep while the other resumes for work everyday, pure rhythm.
Maybe we are the visible growth on Earth the organism…but again, i get crazy sometimes.
@Morgan, i share your viewpoint. Yes, there is something animating this bag of cells and our bodies are kinda like the gloves a scientist would use in a nuclear test chamber.
I imagine every one of us is the same soul/nuclear scientist, inhabiting different bodies/gloves…crazy?
@jules150, I think I understand what you mean. The thing is we are aware of our existence, which means we are some sort of “self,” and I’m not sure that anything at all in the Universe is unimportant, I think everything was created from an original source with a purpose. So just being a form of that original source inherantly gives divine energy, purpose, and importance.
Some people think it’s the underlying mechanism by which our bodies function. Others may see it as something which transcends physical matter. Maybe it’s just the sum of our perceptions, or maybe it operates outside of space/time.
Kaeysa- No, I don’t think that’s crazy. I’ve played with the idea that maybe our bodies are puppets, which at times can be controlled by higher beings when we are receptive.
I watched a vid on youtube the other day (I’m pretty sure it was a link on another thread). It explained that one cannot describe ‘I’, one can only describe the things that make up ‘I’.
E.g. You are a human being, you follow a certain faith, you have a certain career, you are interested in a sport or an art. These things contribute to your personality. But what are you? What do you speak of when you refer to ‘I’.
There are videos that probably explain it better. My point is, could that be the answer to the soul? Something that we cannot comprehend, that part of us that it ‘I’.
@m17lee, I agree with the statement you are a soul inhabiting the body.
Your soul resides within the nervous system and any emotion you experience is felt through the nervous system. I think the idea that we are just a mind and a body is rediculous. People aren’t robots, they have souls. There would be no such thing as spirituality without a soul, how can you experience oneness without one?
It is the universal underlying force of the universe everything is connected by a collective soul and are aware of other individual souls. The soul lives in every cell in the universe and can be anything at once.
I also share the belief that we don’t have a soul and the monoism of body and mind but what makes me wonder that position sometimes is the oneness that is sometimes experienced through meditation or psychadelics.
@blankey; I’d say that is correct. The human body is a complex “machine” for the “ghost” to reside in. It is our interface to the physical reality around us; the body is just the instrument, however, as it doesn’t truly experience anything on its own; spirit is what experiences everything THROUGH the body. This discussion is fantastic you guys : )
@v1kingfan: I 100% agree with what you just said above. I can’t relate to people who insist that consciousness and spirit are merely epiphenomenon of the mind; materialistic science has the human race by the balls.
In what way exactly? Is it not so that you ingest a ‘material’ thing and that manifests as consciousness? Where does the one begin and the other end?
In my opinion, they are just two sides of the same coin. And the coin is so thin, it doesn’t exist.
I think of the soul as our subjective experience. Some people here have said that the soul is the “awareness” or the “witness” of what we experience with our thoughts/senses/perceptions. I think the deeper we go into this awareness the more we realize there isn’t any seperate entity from the experiences witnessed. There is merely the sum total of what we experience, and beyond that nothing. In this way, you are your body and mind (or what I like to think of as the “filtering system” that reality is put through), but you are also all that is put through this “filter” as well as everything that has ever had any effect on what has been put through your system. And because every piece of matter (or non-matter!) on this earth has some bearing on every other piece (even in the smallest of ways of co-existence), you are everything, because everything has contributed to the subjective experience you are having! This is the first time I’ve tried to put this into words, so hopefully it comes across as I mean it. I’ve also only typed a paragraph, when on a subject like this libraries can be written.
There are new avenues of pursuit for the answer to this agelong questions. Inquisitive minds shall love what the Urantia Book has to say about this. May I add, inquisitive and open, minds….
Point your browser to:
@sumtinprophetic, I really didn’t mean to come off as hostile at all. I barely recollect a time in my life when I felt I was being hostile to someone. You can’t read body language on the internet.
Anyway, if you know the title and you want to learn more about what science has to say about all this, then you wouldn’t have trouble finding it on your own.
Google is very easy to use ;)
Gabriel Rymberg- Not trying to be a hater, but you don’t actually buy into that do you?
Before you ask, yes, I read the Urantia book a long time ago. It was interesting, and maybe even had truths… in the same way Greek mythology and the Bible does.