Thinking philosophically…

Could you measure our evolution based purely as a species on how the growth of a philosophical mindset has grown? Strip away the technology, and as a species, philosophy is the next area to grow and change perspective. Looking at it this way, have we evolved much since the days philosophical thinkings of people such as Plato or Descartes?

Clearly there are not many people who are willing to think this way. Many people are to caught up in their social lifes with society and its manipulation that they have lost the way. To think philosophical, to reach within ones self, ones mind is the gateway to a whole different perspective of life/reality. Though i do believe that we are awakening slowly. I live in a small town, in the town i live there are many followers, i only know a few people that are willing to think and learn in this way. As for evolving? i truly do not know but as time passes, we are awakening. Thinking this way has inspired me and one of my friends to write a book, this book is towards anybody willing to learn and it will consist of anything worth spreading for the human mind to expand and unite as ONE. We are all human and are ONE with the universe, instead of religions that consist of the thinking “we are right, no other religion,” we go for a win-win situation for everybody. Truthfully, everything is fucked up nowadays, but we still have much to learn. We are awakening. @amazingbonz,

@fadingfootprints, I think this is too specific, what you speak of is an ideal on philosophy but the reality at its simplest; Philosophy is meerly a question. In this sense everyone is a philosopher and it has nothing to do with the question posed or where that question will lead.
The people who suck at philosophy are the people who form values at some point without question, with one wrong addition skewifing the interpretation of information. A value must make sense, or be made sense of by questioning.

@smokeup1, the answers that philosophical conjecturing provides are quite arbitrary. it freaks me out ‘what if am wrong’! shouldnt we hav a more solid measure of truth? something more backed by evidence. something more scientific?

@myselfbaba22, I think people should have confidence in their own judgement for what makes sense according to the value system they have designed, and I think that the only reason that sense could be wrong is if that value system itself was designed without questioning of the logic that leads to that conclusion.
So all you can do is review your values, find the logic in each factor of it and then trust your judgement of what makes sense when it is filtered through that value system. So a solid measure of truth? You can only research everything about an issue to get a comprehensive picture of it but ultimately you will still have to trust your own judgement of what makes sense in the design of your application of that knowledge.

@trek79, I don’t think we should trust our own judgement, because we are the product of the filters put by society and everyone is raised different, so if an idea seems right to me, actually it seems right for what the environment I grew up in told me. I can not trust my judgement because I was raised in an infected society and my paths for finding the truth are altered also. But, there is an escape: If you think outside the box, if you exclude your mind, thoughts, personality, you reach a platform of awareness which allows you to see beyond the filters and search for truth. My idea was that our judgment is altered by environment and you can not trust it, and thinking philosophically means to destroy all of your “rational judgment” and pass through the mind to the seeking truth path. Thinking philosophically is killing yourself (you ego) for universally-accepted truth and to understand that each person is a paradox which we do not have the power to destroy. We have to abandon ourselves and our judgment to think philosophically.

@blacksciencelab, You can trust your judgement at least in where it has strength. There are measures you can take, you can review your system, it is not set in stone, just because your life has programmed it does not mean it makes sense. If you find irrational aspects of it you can replace them.
If you are keen enough you can look into Eastern philosophies on how to disolve the value system all together, freeing you up to redesign it from scratch, without the influences of conditioning. I personally used Nihilism to do this, but that is a potentially dangerous and complex method that needs boundaries between the conceptual and the natural.
But a value system does not have to be complex at all, I have one based on selfish motivation, but in that selfishness I see the logical personal benefits of considerate behaviour, how I actually gain from being kind. But in that is also a huge focus on finding psychological balance and embracing passions.
The thing with a passion is, despite it being your love that fulfills your needs, because you have such strength in it it resonates all around you and affects so many others in a way that altruistic minded people never have.
But as I say, the reason it is your value system is because it suits you, unless of course you simply adopted someone else value system which is completely ill advised and I’d strongly reccommend you remedy that. But what is wrong to others may not be wrong to you, that is the limitation people place on themselves that they must conform with some norm, but I tell you; If humanity were uniform then I’d shuffle myself off this mortal coil in an instant because that would utterly destroy the point of life.

@blacksciencelab, I see what you mean, you seek a universal oneness and connection with the non-local, non-linear consciousness that exists within all things at a sub-quantum level. A lot of people are at that stage here on HE. That is an awesome part of the journey.

@birdflyinghigh, very well put.

@myselfbaba22, Well to me a value system is a judgement of what makes sense, how much it makes sense and to decide if it makes sense enough to impliment or if I should search for something that makes more sense, a weighing of the time constraint I have to make that decision or search for an alternative. But also if I am in the best possition to make a decision or if I know someone or can find someone who has a better understanding to make such a decision. Stuff like that is my value system.
In others, it is trying to mould decisions, not nessecarily to what makes sense but to what conforms with their indoctorinated code of morality, they use that as a default rather than trust what makes sense to them.

@fadingfootprints, this is true, but I have also experienced the flip side of this which is focusing so much on thinking philosophically that I am missing the point, getting stuck in my head and thus not being present for my own life.

@myselfbaba22,
For your 1st & 3rd points, ‘believing in oneself’ & ‘understanding in oneself’ are kind of on the same boat. To believe in yourself you must understand yourself. You must grow more consciously aware my good sir.

For your 2nd point,”Two, about understanding oneself and the existence of reality through philosophy.”
i had said,”there is nothing wrong with trying to understand ones self and the existence of this reality.” I never said,’Through philosophy.’

First off, there is a big difference between believing in oneself and believing in something to be true or false. When you believe in yourself it has to do with you/within yourself. The spiritual oneness that is within us all, Spirituality is self awareness, consciousness aware of itself.

When you think of something to be true or false i do agree on being able to entertain a thought without accepting it. You need to have that in order to not fall for manipulation or false beliefs so easily.

SOME QUOTES:

“Maybe pain is caused by acquired beliefs and ideas that instills the notion of superiority over another – Beliefs and ideas that one would even kill or die for trying to defend – yet this lingering pain endures when one continues to be deaf and blind to the knowing from deep within – until one wakes up to remember…that these things that caused pain to oneself and others are all hand me down convictions of the mind.” -?

“The absolute simplicity is that the entire universe, all of the knowledge, all of the power, reside within you. And the portal for this knowing is called your heart. That is the absolute bottom line simplicity of it. All of it is within you, whether or not at this time, you know it. So all of the struggling out there to get somewhere, to be something, is really simply a story because you do not reach out to become. You reach in to become.” -P’taah

“You must unlearn what you have been ‘programmed’ to believe from birth.
That software no longer serves you if you want to live in a world where all things are possible.” -Jacqueline E. Purcell

“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand ; they listen with the intent to reply.” – Stephen R. Covey

This here is part of a book i am reading, ‘Nothing in this book is true, but its exactly how things are,’ by Bob Frissell. I recommend it, it’s an eye opener.

“The direct result of turning off the pineal gland (3rd eye) is polarity consciousness-good and bad, right and wrong. Because of the way we breathe we see things in terms of good and evil, but in fact there is no such thing as polarity. Everything actually has 3 components -the holy trinity-and no matter what polarity you think of there will a third element to it; for example, with hot and cold, there is warm, up and down gives you middle, etc. From higher dimensional levels of existence polarity is just an illusion. Unity is all there is; there is just one God and one Spirit that moves through everything. All that ever occurs then is occurring because of the one God.

On our level of existence we interpret things differently. We think we see good and evil. What is really going on, however, is timing. The forces of polarity are necessary for the proper functioning of the universe. Remember, the dark forces do everything they can to hinder a particular area of consciousness, be it on a planetary or individual scale. The light forces do everything they can to encourage consciousness expansion and awareness. This opposition causes consciousness to move upward at exactly the right pace. In the birth of a child, for example, 9 months is the proper time, not 3 months or 15 months. The forces of polarity cause the child to be born at exactly the right time.

So given where we are, we need to see good and evil and be aware of them, but we also need to recognize that the presence of God is in every situation and that there is a reason for everything that happens. We need to see that everything is whole and complete and perfect and that there is nothing wrong no matter how bad or how good it may seem. We need to see that life engenders a deep conscious aspect that is everywhere.

In our state we tend to think that we live inside this body, that everything “out there” is separate from us, and that our feelings and thoughts don’t manifest beyond ourselves. We think that we can hide our thoughts and feelings and they have no impact “out there.” This is simply not true. Everything that we think, feel, and do is creating our whole world all the way out to the most distant stars. We are creating everything in every moment, more so than we could ever imagine.”