Thoughts of Faith and Truth

2 years, 2 months ago

Peace to all,

As I go through my old notebooks of my writings, I find many quotes which I have written down.
I wrote them down because the strike chords in my heart and ring true to my mind and soul, hopefully they will for you.

I did not write the names of any of the writers, so forgive me of that, I think many of you will find these quotes enlightening if you choose to read them.

“The most virtuous and wise see a light Indistinctly, a feeble light in the dark of myths: the light of Truth. It is the remembrance of the Light seen before life, which inspires them with some truth, in which are fragments of the revealed Truth.”

“Heroism in faith is to be perfected among difficulties.”

“Inconstancy is the face and appearance of ill intentions.
Good men make actions out of good intentions.”

“Jesus felt more pain for the hatred of the world than for His Tortures and Death.”

“Do always how Jesus would advise and the God of Jacob will always be with you.”

“why do you, whom destiny has placed high up, always want to consider yourself perfect?”

“Can a doctor cure a sore if he does not open it and clean it?

” the Spirit needs such freedom and generosity in giving, to be sure that it is not entangled in the cobwebs of affections, habits, considerations, fears, stretched out as many threads by the monstrous spider which is Satan, the robber of souls.”

“He hates his life who without fear of losing it or making it sad from a human point of view, uses it to serve Me.” – Jesus Christ

“It is wisdom to weigh and judge one’s self.”

“There is but One God, Who does not originate from anybody else and is not subject to human passions and needs: One Only, Eternal, Perfect God, the Creator of everything.”

“you do not enter the Kingdom of Heaven along a flowery road of triumph or on a carpet made purple by enemy blood; but climbing a steep path of sacrifices and a mild staircase of forgiveness and love.
Our victories over ourselves will give us that Kingdom.”

These quotes are true and faithful. Some are my own, some are of quotes I have translated, and some are quotes I have written out of books I read. I wrote what I know to be words from God Himself.

Anyone is welcome to put their own, or describe one of the quotes to exercise spiritually, as I always do.
For those who wish to scoff I give this to show how I think of you.

“Love also wicked people. Not because of their wickedness, but because it is through love that mercy is granted to them.”

Peace and blessings to all.

January 16, 2013 at 4:18 pm

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Profile photo of Tine Tine (@tine) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase,

–“Do always how Jesus would advise and the God of Jacob will always be with you.”–

though currently i don’t believe in Jesus’s divinity, i still agree with this quote, i find that the example that Jesus set is perfect for navigating life, making the hard decisions,

i know the wwjd bracelets got overplayed, but i do not disagree with the idea in concept, i believe that Jesus had great wisdom.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@tine, Why do you not believe in His Divinity? Are you islamic?

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@tine, Agreed, it’s fine to believe that divinity stuff if people want, but ultimately the metaphysical factors taught about Jesus are irrelevant, especially without genuine effort to practice what he taught about loving each other and appropriate behaviours, the real world relevant stuff.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, The metaphysics of the Gospel are very relevant. The Holy Spirit is what the world needs.

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Profile photo of Tine Tine (@tine) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase,

no, raised christian, but currently a seeker of truth, i’m working through my problems with the religion and people vs what it actually says so i can view the Bible unbiased,

but, so far, what people claim to be god is, in my opinion, a misunderstanding of themselves and the power of their emotions

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Profile photo of Almeida Almeida (@xetado) 2 years, 2 months ago ago
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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@tine, There are two commandments given to us so that we may know what is faithful. I am sure you know which.

I went through a period where I did the same. Although I did not dismiss Christ’s Divinity, because there is such power in His name, His word His Presence and Spirit.
You will find that it is important to know the Holy Spirit.

http://www.highexistence.com/topic/undress/

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, Maybe people need Holy Spirit, my point is a person cannot ignore appropriate behaviours, like the ones taught by Jesus, and expect to be blessed with Holy Spirit. I personally do not need faith or divine reward to encourage me to behave appropriately, logic shows me the all round benefit of it. In my opinion it is the benefits of appropriate behaviour which IS the Holy Spirit you are talking about.

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Profile photo of Tine Tine (@tine) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase,

i don’t disagree that the holy spirit should be known, i disagree that the holy spirit is anything but our emotions and our lack of understanding of how they effect us or how to use them to become self-founts of motivation,

i have broken everything down to its base and considered the core, then i searched other religions and did the same, i have spoken with many strong in faith pastors, i have seen examples on a daily basis, i observe, i watch, i hold my perspectives loosely to avoid bias,

and the conclusion i have come to so far is that what most people think is god, spirit, astral body, etc etc is simply them not understanding themselves, and i do check, i ask them many questions, its not just based on claiming to believe in something i before mentioned, its psychological traits, its aspects, confusion, etc, many correlating factors,

i would argue you attuning with the holy spirit is you simply attuning with a positive emotion, and i say this because you have to know the spirit, meaning, you have to think about it, have to focus on it, to receive its power, the power is not inherent, so its a thought, a mental anchor that you go to for the motivation power of the illogical ideas of Hope and Love

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, No, that is NOT what I believe to be the Holy Spirit, although the Spirit does give us Gifts.

The Holy Spirit is the Power which comes from the Father and the Son, to enlighten us and touch us by any word or by any action.

The Holy Spirit is the Presence of the Living God within us and around us.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, So understanding, that appropriate behaviour has benefit, is Holy Spirit?

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

“i don’t disagree that the holy spirit should be known, i disagree that the holy spirit is anything but our emotions and our lack of understanding of how they effect us or how to use them to become self-founts of motivation”

You are mistaking your own spirit for the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Presence of God, and If you look for It you will find God’s Presence in everything, including your own spirit(which is your soul). When you increase the Holy Spirit within you, then you give a wider scope to God Who works through you.

“i would argue you attuning with the holy spirit is you simply attuning with a positive emotion, and i say this because you have to know the spirit, meaning, you have to think about it, have to focus on it, to receive its power, the power is not inherent, so its a thought, a mental anchor that you go to for the motivation power of the illogical ideas of Hope and Love”

It is not so. I find that attuning with the Holy Spirit is the weakening of the desires of my flesh, to increase the desire of my spirit. Then when I am in a spiritual state, alongside the Spirit of God which is always present, I pour out my heart upon the alter of God’s Love and I feel His Fire consume my emotions, my sins, my hopes, my faith, and fill me with Love and dissociate my soul from my flesh, giving me a clear understanding of spiritual things and even Nothing if I so want to dwell in the Silence of God.

I think people become too worried about religious discrepancies and bury themselves in the “letter” rather than the Spirit. The best thing to do is experience God for yourself and see what the Father thinks.

My only mental anchor is to desire at all times to do as Jesus would advise.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, No, the Holy Spirit is the Presence of the Living God. The Holy Spirit helps us to experience moral behavior in a supernatural way.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, The presence of the living God sounds pretty general, do you mean both love and understanding? That is something I can wrap my head around.

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Profile photo of Maxwell B Maxwell B (@spadoincle) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase,

are you fucking kidding me? get off of HE with that ignorant bull shit.
among the many things wrong with religion, certainly one of the worst is how judgmental yall are. and not only do you have the nerve to say what somebody else thinks is wrong but then you go and try and push what you THINK is right on them. if there is such thing as a holy spirit it is in the form of a stick… shoved straight up your ass.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, Just sayn, if a person has love, understanding and appropriate behaviour, this is what we seek right? What else is there?

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

God cannot be defined nor understood. He can only be known. People go wrong in trying to understand He Who is.

read this http://www.highexistence.com/topic/meditate-in-gods-presence/

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Profile photo of Maxwell B Maxwell B (@spadoincle) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

“are you a islamic?” !?!?! this is a website devoted to free, unarmed thinking. i suggest you start opening up a little instead of seeing the world through your tinted shades. @backcase

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@spadoincle, Thank you for you input. I am willing to understand anyone’s beliefs and I am willing to share my own.

There is not a single man who can be considered non biased in the world, and to say that this site is for them is to say this site is for none.

Besides, you obviously have a bias towards a spiritual way of thinking, you are not unarmed as you have all the ammo in the world against religion.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, “Just sayn, if a person has love, understanding and appropriate behaviour, this is what we seek right? What else is there?”

The Source of it.

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Profile photo of Being_Scott_Embry Being_Scott_Embry (@honeyeater) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

To make it simple….without the sun, not son. There would be no holy spirit.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@honeyeater, Without the Son there would be no sun, nor would there be the Holy Spirit.

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Profile photo of Ray Butler Ray Butler M (@trek79) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase, Good point, so is the idea to align with the source, to become it(edit: I should say “to become one with it”) or to observe it in fearful reverence?

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Profile photo of Maxwell B Maxwell B (@spadoincle) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@backcase,
i get it. i am biased and charged in my words. I know we all are. I didnt say this site was for unbiased people. I said it was for free thinkers. That means it is for people who never regard what they THINK THEY KNOW as complete truth. A human will never know what Truth with a capital T is, yet christians and other people who listen to an invisible entity constantly have this “im right, your wrong and you better shape up quick before he comes back” attitude. its for good reason my thinking is. I am not concerned with what people think. I am concerned with how what people think affects their behavior. Im sure you are a saint when you are around other people you know that think just like you, but you will forever get that judgmental feeling inside of you when you are around people you know dont think the same as you. you dont LISTEN to them. You are waiting to speak so you can tell them how they are wrong. that is not a constructive argument. it is the opposite of critical thinking.
Ill be posting soon a post titled “4 questions that took me 5 years to come up with”. you will be tagged in it. I hope you can take off those shades and have a real conversation.

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Profile photo of backcase backcase (@backcase) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@trek79, The fearful reverence comes now, as it makes us leave our old ways. But to become one with God is the goal.

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