Thoughts of Faith and Truth
Peace to all,
As I go through my old notebooks of my writings, I find many quotes which I have written down.
I wrote them down because the strike chords in my heart and ring true to my mind and soul, hopefully they will for you.
I did not write the names of any of the writers, so forgive me of that, I think many of you will find these quotes enlightening if you choose to read them.
“The most virtuous and wise see a light Indistinctly, a feeble light in the dark of myths: the light of Truth. It is the remembrance of the Light seen before life, which inspires them with some truth, in which are fragments of the revealed Truth.”
“Heroism in faith is to be perfected among difficulties.”
“Inconstancy is the face and appearance of ill intentions.
Good men make actions out of good intentions.”
“Jesus felt more pain for the hatred of the world than for His Tortures and Death.”
“Do always how Jesus would advise and the God of Jacob will always be with you.”
“why do you, whom destiny has placed high up, always want to consider yourself perfect?”
“Can a doctor cure a sore if he does not open it and clean it?
” the Spirit needs such freedom and generosity in giving, to be sure that it is not entangled in the cobwebs of affections, habits, considerations, fears, stretched out as many threads by the monstrous spider which is Satan, the robber of souls.”
“He hates his life who without fear of losing it or making it sad from a human point of view, uses it to serve Me.” – Jesus Christ
“It is wisdom to weigh and judge one’s self.”
“There is but One God, Who does not originate from anybody else and is not subject to human passions and needs: One Only, Eternal, Perfect God, the Creator of everything.”
“you do not enter the Kingdom of Heaven along a flowery road of triumph or on a carpet made purple by enemy blood; but climbing a steep path of sacrifices and a mild staircase of forgiveness and love.
Our victories over ourselves will give us that Kingdom.”
These quotes are true and faithful. Some are my own, some are of quotes I have translated, and some are quotes I have written out of books I read. I wrote what I know to be words from God Himself.
Anyone is welcome to put their own, or describe one of the quotes to exercise spiritually, as I always do.
For those who wish to scoff I give this to show how I think of you.
“Love also wicked people. Not because of their wickedness, but because it is through love that mercy is granted to them.”
Peace and blessings to all.
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I just feel thaT THE ONLY REAL CHRISTAIN WAS JESUS. THE ONE THAT DIED ON THE CROSS. But is that christianity or did we just make that up for us to follow? Maybe Jesus did not like religions, he was probably against it. Spirituality and God he was probably into. Like, I dont think he raised people from the dead physically, I think he was trying to raise people from the dead, because they were spiritually dead. And thats the magic right there….the truth and the life. Jesus is the man! But thats my interpretation.
“whoever finds the correct interpretation will find the kingdom of heaven” ?
@trek79, No, that is NOT what I believe to be the Holy Spirit, although the Spirit does give us Gifts.
The Holy Spirit is the Power which comes from the Father and the Son, to enlighten us and touch us by any word or by any action.
The Holy Spirit is the Presence of the Living God within us and around us.
–The wise ones notice a golden thread of truth in each religions teachings.–
yes, and the reason why all of them have golden threads is because each was created around man and man’s problems…. again, another point you have proven
@tine, you don’t understand it, nor do you want to. I explained it many times, yet you ask the same questions. Draw my words through their spirit. Until you break the surface of what I am saying it is of not use to explain.
–“Do always how Jesus would advise and the God of Jacob will always be with you.”–
though currently i don’t believe in Jesus’s divinity, i still agree with this quote, i find that the example that Jesus set is perfect for navigating life, making the hard decisions,
i know the wwjd bracelets got overplayed, but i do not disagree with the idea in concept, i believe that Jesus had great wisdom.
i hear what you are saying, but i think you could also say, Mind, Body, and Emotion. have you ever sat back and looked at what your spiritual growth means in reality? when you are spiritually growing your are also becoming more emotionally stable, if you look at the process you are using for spiritual growth and broke them down to their core idea concepts, you will see that the method you use can be found in other religions, other philosophies, psychology, etc, and i am sure you can find some of this wisdom pre-dating the Bible.
you accept yourself and forgive yourself, you let go of what you cannot control, these are the main functions of the religion and all aspects can be found in a non-religious setting to where the people following them see a identical cause/effect in their lives,
so, how can MOST people, get through life and understand themselves and be humble like Jesus, follow in his example to a T, yet never know him like you do?
it is because religions are all made up and reflect the culture, they are an attempt to understand and allow man the knowledge control the human element, the emotional element, the supernatural aspects are metaphors and stories to exemplify the knowledge in action, this supernatural explanation was an explanation system prior to logic and science, anything that we didn’t understand we worshiped or assigned supernatural elements to, it was presented in a way that the culture at the time could understand, and here we are, 2,000 years later, trying to apply a 2013 perspective to it, no can do, you cannot take literally what a 2000 year old documents says bc the logic used to write is not inherent to someone of our educational background,
the last of which, the most powerful reality bender, is our emotions, which in my opinion, is what the bible is about
“i don’t disagree that the holy spirit should be known, i disagree that the holy spirit is anything but our emotions and our lack of understanding of how they effect us or how to use them to become self-founts of motivation”
You are mistaking your own spirit for the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the Presence of God, and If you look for It you will find God’s Presence in everything, including your own spirit(which is your soul). When you increase the Holy Spirit within you, then you give a wider scope to God Who works through you.
“i would argue you attuning with the holy spirit is you simply attuning with a positive emotion, and i say this because you have to know the spirit, meaning, you have to think about it, have to focus on it, to receive its power, the power is not inherent, so its a thought, a mental anchor that you go to for the motivation power of the illogical ideas of Hope and Love”
It is not so. I find that attuning with the Holy Spirit is the weakening of the desires of my flesh, to increase the desire of my spirit. Then when I am in a spiritual state, alongside the Spirit of God which is always present, I pour out my heart upon the alter of God’s Love and I feel His Fire consume my emotions, my sins, my hopes, my faith, and fill me with Love and dissociate my soul from my flesh, giving me a clear understanding of spiritual things and even Nothing if I so want to dwell in the Silence of God.
I think people become too worried about religious discrepancies and bury themselves in the “letter” rather than the Spirit. The best thing to do is experience God for yourself and see what the Father thinks.
My only mental anchor is to desire at all times to do as Jesus would advise.
I like your scientific approach, but with such you are prone to leave out the supernatural.
“i hear what you are saying, but i think you could also say, Mind, Body, and Emotion. have you ever sat back and looked at what your spiritual growth means in reality? when you are spiritually growing your are also becoming more emotionally stable, if you look at the process you are using for spiritual growth and broke them down to their core idea concepts, you will see that the method you use can be found in other religions, other philosophies, psychology, etc, and i am sure you can find some of this wisdom pre-dating the Bible.”
Emotions have their source, and they either come from the inferior being or the superior being of the self. The motions come from a being and that is of the spirit.
When I speak of Jesus, I mean the Word of God. Where the Father is, so is the Son.
I see that you try to rationalize spirituality into human thoughts, but I think it takes faith to understand it completely, because there is a point where words do not suffice.
Thank you for your input, but remember: Faith can move mountains.
May God give you peace.
see, that is an easy assumption to draw when you have nothing really to say in return to a question, the thing you are failing to realize is that i have heard everything you have said before, i have said it myself, for the majority of my life i lived within the Christian sphere, so when i ask you to define god, i am not asking for some generic answer, i was looking for a personal definition, how do you define him, what does he mean to you, but by your answer you reveal you really don’t know,
i find naive, subtle tones of arrogance emulating from your supreme knowledge which is standard amongst people who convince themselves they have discovered a truth and it is their mission to bring everyone around to their senses,
i get it. i am biased and charged in my words. I know we all are. I didnt say this site was for unbiased people. I said it was for free thinkers. That means it is for people who never regard what they THINK THEY KNOW as complete truth. A human will never know what Truth with a capital T is, yet christians and other people who listen to an invisible entity constantly have this “im right, your wrong and you better shape up quick before he comes back” attitude. its for good reason my thinking is. I am not concerned with what people think. I am concerned with how what people think affects their behavior. Im sure you are a saint when you are around other people you know that think just like you, but you will forever get that judgmental feeling inside of you when you are around people you know dont think the same as you. you dont LISTEN to them. You are waiting to speak so you can tell them how they are wrong. that is not a constructive argument. it is the opposite of critical thinking.
Ill be posting soon a post titled “4 questions that took me 5 years to come up with”. you will be tagged in it. I hope you can take off those shades and have a real conversation.
@tine, Agreed, it’s fine to believe that divinity stuff if people want, but ultimately the metaphysical factors taught about Jesus are irrelevant, especially without genuine effort to practice what he taught about loving each other and appropriate behaviours, the real world relevant stuff.
ahhh, always comes down to the faith argument doesn’t it, that is because it doesn’t stand up to a critical look,
on faith, let me create a scene,
you are seeking a system of beliefs, in front of you are three options, (1) When you observe the cause/effect of this system, you see that it harms you. (2) When you observe the cause/effect of this system, you see it really doesn’t do anything for you, it’s kind of a waste of time. (3) When you observe the cause/effect of this system, you see it benefits you.
which of these systems would you chose?
Option #3 of course, but this is only because you have seen a positive cause/effect, if the system harmed you, you would not follow it, if the system did nothing but waste your time, you would not follow it, only if there is something tangible will you then follow.
you are claiming supernatural faith based on tangible evidence, these are opposites, there is nothing supernatural about your faith, you believe what you do just like anyone else believes what they do, because of a tangible cause/effect,
look at religion globally and if you claim you have, look again, you cannot understand my points unless you do.
@tine, option 4: Doing God’s will to give glory to God, and not the self.
To lay our focus upon God, and not upon cause and effect is to be above such self seeking.
It is the greatest action to do what pleases God. This fits into all of your 3 categories and none of them. I will give glory to God for my soul’s benefit, for other’s benefit, for no benefit, as long as my will is to love God.