Too Coincidental, has it happened to you?
You know those things that happen that just seem TOO coincidental. Like for instance, you learn the definition to the word "obsequious" then the next day somebody calls you that? Or you have this wonderful idea for a mini-giraffe, then the next week a commercial steals your idea? (that last one happened to me, haha)
I’m not really talking about Deja-vu, but things that happen as soon as you learn that it exists. Any ideas about why this happens or experiences of your own?
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@martjin. So the fact that I post E. Gilbert’s video here and then a few hours later decide to check out your TED Discussion group, only to find that this video has already been suggested…what’s this one? selective bias?
It’s getting too weird for my feeble mind. Not just this, but everything about this site seems to be bringing about these coincidences. Are we a community already at an energetic level? Are we synchronizing somehow? Is there a ‘High Existence Type’, and that’s why we all have so much in common? And if it is a type then how do we define it? We’re a varied bunch so how do we define that which unites us?
Also, after we achieve world domination who will be leader? you or Jordan? are we doing the Spartan thing (I vaguely remember reading somewhere they had two kings, in recognition of the ‘absolute power corrupts’ principle)?
Very interesting ideas, I like! I feel that there are no coincidences. That the little or big happenings that catch our attention are actually the universes way of letting us know we are very connected and they happen specifically for us to recognize. To lure us in some to see our thoughts are very much alive. The universes way of smiling at us, so smile back!
Alex; i am glad you started to learn at 13…this is the age when you became responsible for your beingness…it is true inside each of us is a piece of the spiritual world…connecting to this light is; what i believe, the purpose of our life…
this is not about a religion…you already have this light within you…all you need do it practice connecting to it…to do this just practice clearing your mind…it will lead you to the light :D
I was sober the first and second time I watched it and trust me, I don’t remember it either. There’s just something weird about it, and it’s not just the drawing stuff. :) The information is just so new and so concentrated it makes it hard to wrap your brain around all of it.
Now the third time I watched it I wasn’t so sober and I think that was still one of the best trips ever. I felt like a three-year old on Christmas day, that sort of enthusiasm just makes life worth living. I just had that feeling that the universe had opened itself up to me and now I had the answer to everything. brilliant movie, good times…
One such coincidence happened to me a few years back, and pardon me for the experience being religious in nature. I had been feeling something of a spiritual void, and was agnostic at the time (still am). I decided to research religions that were primarily surrounded by worship of a single entity. My first subject was Wicca; years beforehand I had read some about it and had remained interested (still am).
After some procrastination, I visited my local public library for reading material and I had to wait for the guy at the book catalog computer to finish. When he stood, I briskly walked to the machine from the religion stacks and took the seat. As I moved the cursor to the search bar – “wicca” was already typed in.
It was one of those surreal, heart-pumping moments, looking up and seeing the same guy before me hovering near the religion section. Should I talk to him? Will I regret it if I don’t?
It was a very awkward breaking the ice, but I did it. “Guy” also happened to be near my age with a similar story as well as career goals. We hung out after, swapped email addresses and sadly never talked again, as of yet.
iamjimmy, yes that is what it was sparked from, lol.
One of my weirdest “dejavu” things: I had a dream where i woke up to for school and i opened the cabinet to get a glass, and there was a silver cord hanging down. I pulled it and on the other end was a camera. coincidentally i needed a camera for school. WELL, I woke up that morning and just shrugged it off as a weird dream. I got downstairs, opened the cabinet and what do you know, a camera. We have NO idea where this camera came from, its like it came out of thin air. We asked everyone we could think of and it wasn’t theirs >_>
Haven’t read all of the comments through but skimmed to get a jist of it… well here’s my opinion on “coincidence.”
So firstly I went through a phase when I was really intereseted in this, so I’ve done a lot of thinking on it.
K, so I think the first problem with why our brains get so “boggled” by de javu and coincidence etc… is because most of us think (most of the time) in a very linear way. We are aware of the facts that we know now, our subconscious fills in facts we forgot (in a vague like picture.) Lastly, most of us see time (naturally) as a kind of line moving forward.
Point two is that our brains are wired to find patterns in the world around us… thats why we have mathematicians plotting away at functions, mapmakers making maps proportional to the real world, business calendars running on the same 5 day a week schedule everyday… etc you get my drift. We want to find corralations (which is like patterns) in the world around us. Obviously this works for the world we live in… 2.5 billion years of evolution in the making.
I’m going to guess that over the 2.5 billion years of evolution, our brains have evolved to release a series of chemical pathways that make us “light up” if you will, when we think we’ve found a pattern in our little linear world. It keeps our brain sticking the the adaptations we have for survival described in point one and two. And again, it works for our little world.
The problem is that we don’t know all the “facts” in the world… we get caught up in this linear time line we like to think in that we forget that the world has three other dimensions we know. And modern physics says 10 dimensions total (approx.) Imagine sectioning off a one inch wide line across the mona lisa and only seeing the painting within the boundaries within that line. Imagine that was the only part of the painting you saw? What would you see? An abstract ribbon with cool designs on it. Maybe even a pattern of lines. But the reality of what your actually seeing is not an abstract painting with patterns… its actually the mona lisa!
Some people might say “Not everything we see is what it really is” (or something like that) I disagree… we see what we see, lets just see some more.
Is it coincidence that I woke up in my bed in my house this morning, just like every other morning of my life? I dreamed about eggs last night and my mom made eggs for breakfast… is that coincidence? I read in some physics book, anything can happen at any given moment, its more about the probability of it happening.
Last point (this is getting long! sorry!!!): as helpful as our propensity for finding patterns is, its not a foolproof mechanism. For example, math seems to be rational and always right. 2+2=4. Yet the same formulas we use in quantuam physics start to give out wacky answers when applied to astrophysics, and vice versa. 1/3 is .3333…. its a number that never ends yet I can eat exactly 1/3 of a cookie. Our ability for finding patterns is still not perfect.
Thats just one way I look at it, and not to turn my post into an essay loll I’ll end there :)
I also believe there is a collective conscience that connects us all. I have seen evidence of it in the bible, as well as real-life. In the bible it says that we each have a piece of the holy ghost (or something like that, I’m not well-versed on the bible), in us, which is basically a piece of God. So all of our souls are connected to one supreme being a.k.a the “collective unconscious.”
When i was 13 or 14 I was pondering this above. After I finally decided that this seemed the most logical idea for God or whatever this supreme being is, not too long afterwards I heard about the SAME idea on TV. I had no idea this was already thought of, lol.
@bryan. I thought that too, but on some things it just doesn’t seem like that. Just like the title says, WAY to coincidental. One just happened to me, i mentioned a giraffe on here then goto facebook and a friend made a joke involving a giraffe.
Daniel Gilbert guys, Stumbling on Happiness. It is on torrent on audiobook and narrated by the author who is a compelling orator and also featured on TedTV. If you like it then you should of course pay for it as have I.
This phenomena much like happiness itself is explored. There are always incidents of chance, but of course there is also our perception of chance and events within our own reality construct.
This combines with other principles like filling in, a notion applied to perceptual nature of vision but applies equally well to our perception of time.
Has anyone read or listened to Stumbling on happiness or Malcom Gladwells Blink?
SoHappiness is particularly interesting coming from someone to have so extensively studied our perceptions of emotions and time and other events.
Once again though I fear I’m at odds with the board consensus!
Edit: If you aren’t sure about what your reality constructs mean to you and your thoughts, have you considered why meditation works? How does that gel with NLP principles of what causes phobia, and PTSD, phobias and addictive behaviours. How would meditation effect those and why? The answers are in there.
I’ve heard this phenomenon referred to as the “Universal Mind.” From what I’ve gathered from the theory it s is based around the idea that all thoughts are original in nature and belong to a sole creator. Once he thought has come to be the creator is limited in time on whether to act on the idea or not. In part if the creator chooses to sit idle the idea still exist and it has to go some where. The ideas are theorized to collect in a collection pool which can be accessed by any human. So Jessica if you would have been walkin around with your bath robe on backwards 3 years ago you would be a millionaire lol…
This one was wierd: A few hours ago, I was in my basement reading “Conversations with God” and listening to Last.fm, when this song titled “Remember Who You Are” by the Living Legends came on. Before then, I had never heard of this song before, and I’ve been listening to the Living Legends for years. Anyone who’s familiar with “Conversations with God” knows the coincidence.
It always happens to me , so many times that they can’t be “just” coincidences , my researchs about that and some coincidences ;-) drive me to read The Celestine Prophecy and others sites and books about law of attraction (which is partially true). Thoose readings and meditations on it carried me in two possible conclusions : a god or something like that hears my thoughts or my thoughts influence directly the world around me (like law of attraction and creative thinking) . Now I’m sure that the second was the right (but I’m not saying that something like God does not exist) cause of my hermetics studies(and practices) on Franz Bardon’s books.
Yes, last year. I was walking with a guy that I liked, although at that time I wasn’t sure whether or not that was the case. I offered to take him home (since he lived just across our university); so when we entered the car, I turned on the radio, and the song was Paramore’s The Only Exception (which he really likes!).
When he got out of the car, I had to admit to myself that I did like him… so I kind of asked for a sign. And after that, for 2 days straight, whenever I entered the car and turned on the radio, the song was always – ALWAYS – The Only Exception! And I always catch it just when it’s starting! It was a bit unbelievable and amusing, haha.
We’re still friends right now, by the way. I have no idea whether that was a sign, or just simply a coincidence :)
Well, there’s a, maybe less exciting explantion for these phenomenon’s. I believe there are two things going on:
1) Stuff that seems too coincidental happens all the time, but it really hits you because of selection bias. For example: You dream of a bike and your bike gets stolen, you might say, aha! What a coincidence! But you would have said the same thing if you would had an accident with your bike, or someone wants to borrow your bike or or or.. And these things are bound to happen, its just probability. Same goes for meeting someone you vaguely know on a holiday, its not really uncommon.
2) Mass priming effect. They once did a study where a group of people in a city got a newspaper puzzle the day after the rest of the city made them. They were 80% (iirc) more succesfull than average (expectation). Why? Because as soon as the answers are out, those words will be more often used and if this is being used on a large scale, people get mass influenced. (If you learn a new word, the chances are much bigger that other people, especially friends because you are a part friend, also learned that new word). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priming_%28psychology%29)
Everyone has decent answers. I came up with an explanation that has two prongs. 1. Intuition within with subjective perception of consciousness 2. the very root of “the law of attraction”.
I don’t want to bore everyone with a long winded response, so I’ll summarize idea. 1.
As we go through every instant of life, we are constantly recording everything of significance from thoughts to occurrences to actions while simultaneously creating relations and connections between these events interdependent of each of other through casualty. When we step in in a pile of shit, we can create the assumption that it was “bad luck” or it might be a “bad day” and on the flip side we can say the opposite if we were to find 20 dollars. As we live we are constantly defining everything around us.
Now when this is phenomena mixed with intuition or what I like to call the natural law of attraction. See the law of attraction has been taught as if you think of something enough it will create itself right? In reality this isnt the law of attraction but actually a MANIPULATION of the law of attraction because it is consciously guided by the choice maker.
When coincidence occurs it is clearly not on the part of the choice maker because then it wouldn’t be coincidence. So this could lead us to the conclusions that we have these thoughts that will lead to us defining an action or event as a ironic coincidence because we connected it as such with the early prophetic premonition, but in reality its just the natural law of attraction working naturally. THE SUBCONSCIOUS MIND ALREADY KNOWS WHAT’S GOING TO HAPPEN!!! INCEPTION!!!!! DAHM DAHM!
Nobody has mentioned black swans yet. That for every unlikely thing that DOES happen, there are an infinite amount of unlikely things that AREN’T happening at that time as well. In a realm of so many possibilities, many things seemingly happen at random and, given how much information our brains take in ever day, we just connect things together and make them personal. Freak coincidences do happen, they are happening all the time, but you might not have the information to recognize them yet. For example I have seen the Communion with God book pop up in my life on at least half a dozen occasions, and read excerpts, though I have never sought it out or read it cover to cover. Coincidence?
Ofcourse the question, why does this happen is not answered. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was an evolutionary advantage for groups to be more cohesive. And maybe there even isn’t a why or maybe its because we all came from the same source.
I work in a manufacturing environment. ( A plant with production lines)
I dreamt one night that there was a fire on our line, lots of smoke, and I could see one of my team mates trying to push the start button on our line.
The next day, I had all morning to think about it, and mull over how I would evacuate if a fire did occur. I even told my break partner.
Well, guess what.
That afternoon, we had a fire on our line, lot s of smoke, and that same team mate was trying to start the line when this was happening. I told my break partner: “Follow me.” And we took the nearest exit outside to safety and walked all the way around the plant to the front of the building.
Although it wasn’t a serious fire, the rest of the crew was criticized for evacuating towards the tunnel where the fire crew was coming from to try and put out the fire. They didn’t take the nearest exit route.
The only reason my break partner and I did, was because I had dreamt the event the night before.