Unscheduled/"Legal" Psychedelics?

2 years, 2 months ago

Ok so I know for a fact (for myself personally) that psychs help my mind open up in ways that I can’t/are temporarily unable to.

I’ve tried several different chemicals (natural, scheduled, legal/illegal, and otherwise).
But I’m trying to look for unscheduled things that are a little easier to get ahold of (especially if they’re cheap!!) and people that have tried them.

I’ve been able to attain MXE online and that was a very neat experience, and am looking for others like and unlike that.

Btw: I am totes into au naturale/drugfree existence if you are so inclined and believe firmly in the power of meditation/yoga/the like.
However, that is not what I’m looking for in this topic, so I’m just saying any answer like that will be kinda useless.

December 5, 2012 at 11:34 pm

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Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

well, you can easily purchase peruvian torch / San pedro cactus (mescaline)
You can easily purchase hawaiin baby woodrose (Extract with ethanol to get LSA)
You can purchase amanita muscaria (fly agaric) – make sure to cook it or bake it.
Ayahuasca may or may not be available (it seems the MHRB has gone off the market?!)
Khat is an interesting plant that will be my next tried psychoactive plant.
Kratom is a deep favorite of mine, and I partake nearly weekly, but it is an opiod, so not “entheogen”.
You can buy truffles which contain psilocybin and are completely legal.

I don’t look into research chemicals though, so no info there.

good luck.

Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 2 months ago ago


I should’ve noted which ones I’ve taken, sorry. :)
I’ve done LSA and mescaline and am aware of ayahuasca. (The MHRB is now illegal, btw. :( Sadness.)

Thank you for the other suggestions! I’ve never heard of khat. And kratom is a plant ? or what?
I’ve heard of Kratom but was under the impression it was similar to synth weed.
And really?!? on the truffles. Never knew that. Are you sure?

Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@beardlike, 100% sure.


FUCK. how can they do that? Where did you hear this? I looked this up last week and it wasn’t illegal?! Fuck this country’s bullshit.

Kratom is a plant, it grows in tropical bog areas. Be careful with it, overdosing is easy (not lethal) but god does it feel terrible.
Khat I forget, I Think its a stimulant, but when I Read about it I was like “Must try”.

Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

@ijesuschrist, Sorry, I had that sliiightly wrong.

I’m sure you know by now that MHRB is already under a legal “gray” area since DMT is a scheduled drug. I heard about it like two months ago from a friend of mine who had literally just ordered a huge shipment of root bark and made a crapton of DMT and sold it in Miami and when he came back he told us about it.
So what I actually was wrong about is MHRB in itself is not illegal, but back in Sept “online retailer, Sonoran Song, was raided by the D.E.A. A substantial quantity of root bark was seized, but the owners were not charged and were allowed to continue operating under the caveat that they would not sell any more root bark. The raid prompted almost all of the other retailers to end online sales of root bark.” (Wiki)

Also: citing 21 USC § 841, which states that “(IV) any compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of any of the substances referred to in subclauses (I) through (III);” (Wiki)

goodbye easily afforded and available DMT.
Might as well be illegal.

And I did some Erowid digging after your post, I liked the idea of Kratom but it seemed a little not worth in some areas. Khat seemed to have a speedlike or Adderall/the like type of effect but without the jitters or restlessness. It sounded super bomb, I wanted to try it.

Profile photo of Jon Leo Jon Leo (@d503) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

The Blue Lotus flower can be mixed with alcohol or made into a tea. It is relaxing and gives a buzz. In very high doses its like a mild, natural MDMA. You can get it on ebay for around $5 an ounce.

Profile photo of Cody Cody (@versai) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

MHRB was never really legal, because of the law already mentioned about any mixtures that contain a scheduled substance. MHRB wasn’t getting screened at customs, but now it is. By now, even online payment services like paypal know not to associate with any sales of it. There are still sources out there if you really wanted it, but the old bluff that it’s used for dying fabric just doesn’t cut it for public vendors anymore. Luckily that’s just one of many DMT containing plants, and they have not cracked down on the others so strictly, yet. MHRB was never intended for use in Ayahuasca anyway, the shamans that coined the combo made it very clear Ayahuasca is only made with the banisteriopsis caapi vine, and sometimes the psychotria viridis (DMT) plant as an additive. You can still find p. Viridis online easily, and b. Caapi has always been legal.

So Ayahuasca is still an option for you… but if you’re that committed to exploring your mind, you’re really going to let the law stop you? I’d skip to the schedules cause that’s where the magic’s at.

“But I’m trying to look for unscheduled things that are a little easier to get ahold of (especially if they’re cheap!!) and people that have tried them.” What price are you putting on opening your mind? Cheap? Easy? You won’t find both; grow your own plants if you want to be cheap, drink a beer to be easy. I think going to a forum to recreate the coolest sounding experience from another user is the worst motive to take a psychedelic. You should maybe think about what direction you want your mind to open before dropping psybombs on it. I could be wrong, but the way your request for help comes off, you’re not putting in enough groundwork to really make a transition in your mind. Sounds like you just want to take the red pill and pop into the matrix, but there’s so much integration you have to do with these trips, try to be a little more prepared with what you want than “cheap and easy”.

Profile photo of  Anonymous (@) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

KRatom is awesome. you can get like, 3 months worth for 60 bucks. And thats daily use which I wouldn’t recommend.

Khat I will order after christmas…

MHRB. :( I heard about the raid :( :( This is no good!

Profile photo of ELizard ELizard (@heavydreamz) 2 years, 2 months ago ago

I would love to know more about research chemicals also! From what I hear the market is about closed now. Any website that is still ‘selling’ is probably just a rip off bc the real distributors have been shut down in the US. Sad that I missed out on that wagon.. looks like we are going to have to wait for these to hit the street.. they are probably already being sold as LSD or molly unfortunately :/ Never know what your gonna get on the street, I guess you might find out if your still tripping 48 hours later..

Let me know if there is a way to find anything legit!

LSD being one of the first RCs.. MDMA being another.. now we have more coming out every year, the future of drugs is here. Benzos are a good example of RCs that have been adopted by the pharm industry. Fuck ‘sweet and lo’ might as well be on the list too.

Khat on the other hand is the plant that amphetamines were originally derived. I don’t think there is anywhere to buy this commercially but I would love to find a hook up. Coca leaves would be super rad too.

Im also a huge fan of kratom, although doing it often comes with its side effects. I have experience doing it every day for long periods and it gives me a bit of the crazies.. stops working.. hangovers.. etc.. usual tolerance dilema, so everything in moderation.. but is a natural fucking powerful plant with effects similar to MDMA at times, others its more like a super euphoric cup of coffee, or it can have an opiate effect, some strains have been psychedelic like mushrooms. Always makes me psyched about everything and provides long in-depth discussions about everything.. you can really get to the bottom of things. I find this plant is alot like weed as its very diverse between strains and has different effects depending on your tolerance.

Blue lotus is great too! Very subtle but enjoyable as tea or in spliffs, can be euphoric.

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