Vaporizer vs. Smoking

Ray, I actually believing vaporizing reduces the adverse effects, for the actual reason that it is more potent (greater %age of THC absorbed). That way, you actually need less weed, so you get less of the toxins and negative effects.

It’s also a clearer high because you’re putting less shit in your system.

leland knows whats up. vaping ensures that what your inhaling is more pure, less other stuff that, like leland said, would contribute to your normal high. theres no way to tell what substances have which effects, so the only way to know for sure is trial and error.

@ anon i feel like no matter how i smoke, i always want to do something when im high. I never understood the stereotype of the couch bound stoner. my mindset is, well im in this state, why waste it?

Vaporizing is the best way to go!

My first experience ever with mary jane was in a volcano vaporizer, and it worked extremely well. I’ve heard that most people don’t get high their first times smoking, but after 20 minutes the first bag had turned all my senses up 400%, and I was melting into the bed. My first 20 highs were on a volcano, and were all the most intense experiences I’ve ever had, comparable to even my DMT trips. I slowly gained function and trained myself to handle the high–but that’s a phase all tokers go through, it’s not vapor specific.

Months went by that I didn’t smoke, then I got a new job and a huge paycheck. The first thing I bought was a volcano, and it’s been my best purchase ever. The bag is super easy to fill up and pass around. The hits are smooth, the high is clear, and it’s more than twice as efficient than burning the ganja. I just celebrated it’s 1 year anniversary and estimated I’ve saved $2700 in weed! The volcano is a top-line equipment at ~$650, but it pays for itself within months of use. 1 ‘bowl’ in the volcano can fill 5 bags of vapor to get someone as high as 2-3 bowls smoked. Every day I get high, and every day I thank the volcano for saving my health and hobby.

I also like my Magic Flight. It’s a small handheld vaporizer that fits in my pocket. It’s equally as impressive as the volcano in that it delivers a smooth, clean high. It lacks the power of the volcano, but makes up for it in portability and style, and is still very efficient.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZp9kprZF0c

Vaping is just so easy. It takes the work out of it and I can smoke inside with a air purifier/fan because the vapor’s scent doesn’t linger like smoke does.

I live in south africa so i grow my own xD

Max: so you’re saying you need to slow burn the bud at low temp?

My roommates and I have been experimenting with “hot knives” as a super economical way to have weed (weed is hard to come by in Perth and with this method all you need is 2 tiny tiny buds per person). It also gives a really productive high.

The knives are fucking burning red, so it’s like super-heat. I don’t know the chemical intricacies, but I know it works very well. Speaking of which, I think I might take a little trip to the kitchen just now.. ;)

Your hot knife method might be efficient and i can see how you thought it would be similar to vaporizing since you arent directly using open flame, but you might still be burning the bad stuff attached to the carbon that youll see in the smoke. Okay, heres where i go ever so slightly against what i said previously, there is a chance you will see Water vapor since it is released with the other vapor and is not smoke and wont give you lung cancer, however the minute amount of water contained in plant material (especailly partially dried plant material like weed is smoked as) is not going to look anything like steam so its hard to even see at all if you are doing it right and not letting it actually burn. However you MIGHT see it. its hard to distinguish though since straight up burning cannabis smoke is pretty white. Most of the time you cant see it, unless your weed is leafy and supple and isnt dry.
Edit: Ellie, when i vape only on the weekends, that slightly sluggish feeling only lasts partly into the next day, after some excersise i feel pretty clear. just give it a try. Keep a journal of how you feel if necessary.

the boiling point of thc is 315 *F. 360 is far too high. no pun intended.

Well lets not be lazy, wikipedia says 315 F, 365 F, and 392 F on different pages. It all depends what you measure:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_consumption

Cannabis has a lot of different cannabinoids, each enhancing the other, and you may release some to get a high as low as 265… but you’re barely getting the effect of the plant!

http://totse.info/bbs/archive/index.php/t-1320.html

Some vaporizers are weak and don’t properly heat the material hot enough, others too hot. I believe some prefer the ‘smoking’ experience simply because combustion releases 100% of the high that they might have missed out on from a crap vaporizing method.

My experience from precise digital temperature vaporizing is that 365 gives the full punch of a bong rip with the taste of an edible, and is not too hot to burn the organic material or too hot to release the unesirable cannabinoids that make smoking feel like that ‘heavy’ load.

A vape is for controlling what you want. I can choose a light, silly high or a dark, deep one. I should have said “the impact of a bong punch without the punch”
Refering to this study: http://www.totse.info/bbs/showthread.php/1320-Marijuana-Vaporization-Study?s=49e0e1ca421185974232d53450b594e2

“The tables with the specific vaporization temperatures are good, too, because you can set your vaporizer to specifically release certain cannabinoids. For example, if you want a more euphoric than sedating high, set your vape to 315˚F, to release more THC than CBN, which vapes at 365˚F.

In a recent study, traces of THC were vaporized at temperatures as low as 140°C (284°F) and the majority of THC vaporized by 185°C (365°F); benzene and other carcinogenic vapors did not appear until 200°C (392°F), and cannabis combustion occurred around 230°C (446°F) (Gieringer 2001).”

cannflavin A and apigenin flavinoids boil right around 360, and the maximum thc at 365. You don’t get anything harmful until the 392+ range.

Gosh I just adore pot, and I think I always will :) (To each his own…) Ellie here’s a tiny bit more info…and some suggestions on where to get a vaporizer if you’re thinking about it… http://www.highexistence.com/discussions/topic/contemplating-investing-in-a-vaporizer/