Vaporizer vs. Smoking
I used to smoke a ridiculous amount of pot. I liked it, obviously, but there were downsides. I had less energy and it was harder to remember things. I would feel groggy and have this heavy feeling in my eyeballs(only way I can think to explain it) the morning after smoking. I have heard that vaporizers are healthier for you, and I’m wondering if vaporizing rather than smoking weed lessens these adverse effects? Any input is much appreciated.
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A vape is for controlling what you want. I can choose a light, silly high or a dark, deep one. I should have said “the impact of a bong punch without the punch”
Refering to this study: http://www.totse.info/bbs/showthread.php/1320-Marijuana-Vaporization-Study?s=49e0e1ca421185974232d53450b594e2
“The tables with the specific vaporization temperatures are good, too, because you can set your vaporizer to specifically release certain cannabinoids. For example, if you want a more euphoric than sedating high, set your vape to 315˚F, to release more THC than CBN, which vapes at 365˚F.
In a recent study, traces of THC were vaporized at temperatures as low as 140°C (284°F) and the majority of THC vaporized by 185°C (365°F); benzene and other carcinogenic vapors did not appear until 200°C (392°F), and cannabis combustion occurred around 230°C (446°F) (Gieringer 2001).”
cannflavin A and apigenin flavinoids boil right around 360, and the maximum thc at 365. You don’t get anything harmful until the 392+ range.
Also not yet mentioned is the taste of vapor… it tastes so good!
At 360*F you begin to vaporize THC, but are still at a low enough heat to vaporize flavinoids without destroying them. Instead of harsh smoke, you can taste/smell the subtle and delicious differences between strains. Some are like farts, others like cotton candy. All potent when done at the right temperature, finely ground. Like Max said, there’s a lot of technique in it, and one of the most important ones is getting a good grinder that nearly powderizes your herb. More surface area for the heated air to come in contact with. Also stirring your pot after refills to keep it loose.
@tangledupinplaid21, Vaporizers give a clearer and cleaner high as they only burn the THC. Vaporizers lessen the adverse effects, such as waking up bung hung. The high is less potent. But from what you describe it would cater to your desires
Vaporizing is the best way to go!
My first experience ever with mary jane was in a volcano vaporizer, and it worked extremely well. I’ve heard that most people don’t get high their first times smoking, but after 20 minutes the first bag had turned all my senses up 400%, and I was melting into the bed. My first 20 highs were on a volcano, and were all the most intense experiences I’ve ever had, comparable to even my DMT trips. I slowly gained function and trained myself to handle the high–but that’s a phase all tokers go through, it’s not vapor specific.
Months went by that I didn’t smoke, then I got a new job and a huge paycheck. The first thing I bought was a volcano, and it’s been my best purchase ever. The bag is super easy to fill up and pass around. The hits are smooth, the high is clear, and it’s more than twice as efficient than burning the ganja. I just celebrated it’s 1 year anniversary and estimated I’ve saved $2700 in weed! The volcano is a top-line equipment at ~$650, but it pays for itself within months of use. 1 ‘bowl’ in the volcano can fill 5 bags of vapor to get someone as high as 2-3 bowls smoked. Every day I get high, and every day I thank the volcano for saving my health and hobby.
I also like my Magic Flight. It’s a small handheld vaporizer that fits in my pocket. It’s equally as impressive as the volcano in that it delivers a smooth, clean high. It lacks the power of the volcano, but makes up for it in portability and style, and is still very efficient.
Vaping is just so easy. It takes the work out of it and I can smoke inside with a air purifier/fan because the vapor’s scent doesn’t linger like smoke does.
Well lets not be lazy, wikipedia says 315 F, 365 F, and 392 F on different pages. It all depends what you measure:
Cannabis has a lot of different cannabinoids, each enhancing the other, and you may release some to get a high as low as 265… but you’re barely getting the effect of the plant!
Some vaporizers are weak and don’t properly heat the material hot enough, others too hot. I believe some prefer the ‘smoking’ experience simply because combustion releases 100% of the high that they might have missed out on from a crap vaporizing method.
My experience from precise digital temperature vaporizing is that 365 gives the full punch of a bong rip with the taste of an edible, and is not too hot to burn the organic material or too hot to release the unesirable cannabinoids that make smoking feel like that ‘heavy’ load.
@Cody – “365 gives the full punch of a bong rip with the taste of an edible, and is not too hot to burn the organic material or too hot to release the unesirable cannabinoids that make smoking feel like that ‘heavy’ load.”
But it does, at 365 you are getting smoke, not straight up combustion, but it is most certainly releasing the other psychoactives and carcinogens at that temp. Perhaps not the entirety of them, but a lot.
You are right though that if you want the full high, smoke the smoke, a vape is just more for if you care about your lung health / potential for cancer.
I also smoked pot, for about 10 years but I quit, I’m over it. I have not used a vaporizer but I have heard it makes it more potent, so I presume the adverse effects would actually increase (at least the groggy and brain pain part).
why is smoke from a vaporizer stronger than from regular smoke? i bought a new davinci vaporizer recently and when i take a hit, it feels stronger in your throat and i can feel it in certain lung area where you wouldn’t feel it with regular smoke! when i heat the chamber without anything in it, there’s a lil bit smoke coming out(just heat or burning rubber around the chamber?) ! anyone has experience with this? and/or is this bad?
hmmm, that is quite interesting, specifically the carcinogen part. I was previously just vaping for thc but i didnt know that “benzene and other carcinogenic vapors did not appear until 200°C (392°F)”. Ill have to read up on this Gieringer study. I was worried that as soon as smoke-like air was being produced that it indicated the release of carcinogenic molecules found in smoke from combustion.
Ray, I actually believing vaporizing reduces the adverse effects, for the actual reason that it is more potent (greater %age of THC absorbed). That way, you actually need less weed, so you get less of the toxins and negative effects.
It’s also a clearer high because you’re putting less shit in your system.