weed can be good
You’ve defined escapism as trying to make your current situation ‘better’. I agree. Is weed often used to escape? Absolutely. I do it a lot.
However, can you see a situation where weed makes your current situation ‘different’ without defining better or worse?
If someone smokes in moderation without dependence or necessity, is it still escapism?
Ex. A guy smokes pot one time and after says "Hmm that was cool" and never smokes again. Was the drug still an escape from reality? Or just a different new experience, like many non-drug related experiences.
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@manimal Who said anything about sititng on your ass when your high!? When I’m tripping out I just want to be with a few good lads not a party scene and I want to adventure, preferably during the day as opposed to night. Your saying you only had visuals, that’s a small part of hallucinating to me.
people ask questions about the good and bad of it, mostly good. goody two shoe people will always say its bad. yes, there is good and bad in my opinion. the bad is that it can drain your wallet and can take a toll on your health just the same as tobacco and alcohol. the good is that it alter your state of conscience, taking you for a ride to a world that is off the charts in your mind. look, its been around frar longer than i have. look at willie nelson. he is like 200 years old, and he is healthy like a clean teenager. people are putting the stuff down only because it is suppose to be illegal. the other bad part about it is that it is dangerous to obtain from dealers, not to mention cultivating it as the risk of getting caught.weed is just another controlled substance next to to alcohol and tobacco that will all together that with affect your health if you consume too much. just do yourselves a favor…if you decide to do weed, don’t go any further than that. i rather see people hooked on weed that crack, mushrooms, meth, etc.its been close to five years since i had weed, and i can see myself doing it again and wouldnt dare do any further than that.
if your definition of a drug is that “it fucks with your nerves to make you feel funny” then you are describing the effects of hormones and serotonin as having a drug-like quality.
Again, Chocolate does exactly the same thing. It affects your body in a way that releases endorphins (many the same endorphins that cannabis releases) which anyone would admit “fuck with your nerves to make you feel funny” hell SMILING then is a drug… am I making myself clear?
I’ve been “defending” my use of cannabis for years not because I want to feel good about myself while smoking it, but because even possessing cannabis makes you a criminal. Therefore the popular view, as supported by “Reefer Madness”, is to demonize a plant that has infinite value FAR BEYOND just “getting high” (textiles, oils, building material, glues, biodegradable plastics, FOOD, Medicine… the list is growing)
in a society that criminalizes cannabis ANYONE using it has to defend themselves… how many people do you hear defending their drinking, or coffee habits?
@Dan That’s awesome. I want to mind-meld with a kitty sometime.
@devon That’s what I’m looking for out of a trip – ego death. Would you call it an overall positive experience? Not that it matters what I think of it if it happens, I guess… but I’m just curious.
@Manimal: before you say I’m putting words in your mouth take a look at your original post. you explicitly say “it’s a drug, it fucks with your nerves to make you feel funny” your words not mine.
and as far as being defensive goes you say: “Being defensive means you know you’re doing something bad and don’t want the blame for it.”
I don’t disagree, and when I say I am defensive it is because (as I stated) it is the government who labels it “bad”; therefore by imbibing cannabis I AM “doing something bad” and as far as not “want(ing) the blame for it” I take full blame that I am imbibing cannabis but I do not agree that I am doing something bad. If anything I am defending our right to use what this earth has given us as we see fit; I am defending my freedom.
and thank you for preemptively putting words into MY mouth.
you obviously don’t know me, because I am more than comfortable to light up a joint and walk down the street. I know that in the eyes of the law I am “doing something bad” and I won’t fight the judge when she says “you broke the law now you have to pay” because that is the legal system I live under, and I know full well I am breaking the law when I flex my rights as a human.
@matt theres plenty of other posts if that’s the category your looking for man! Totally a good interest but psychedelics and meditating would be a trick. Best case would be exploring your mind, most likely having a guide close by, but meditating is something I can’t see while on drugs. I don’t meditate ( I do smudge) but I’ve done a a good portion of drugs and if you think your high on life you could always be higher!;)
What’s a negative connotation? What’s fair? What’s mindlessness and cowardice? What’s a stereotypical burnout stoner? What’s too young? What’s real?
Definitions, man. You’re making it way too complicated with all these concepts, don’t describe a concept with a bunch of other even more diffuse concepts, that’s only confusing. But since that’s what you’re asking me for, here’s some more:
Escapism: Escapism is mental diversion by means of entertainment or recreation, as an “escape” from the perceived unpleasant or banal aspects of daily life. It can also be used as a term to define the actions people take to help relieve persisting feelings of depression or general sadness. – Wikipedia
If there was nothing to escape from, what makes you want to get stoned? Why does being stoned feel “better” than being sober? There is definitely something being escaped. No matter how “ordinary” or “insignificant” it is, there is something you’re escaping. If you feel that weed would somehow make the situation better in some way than you could make it without weed, then that’s escapism.
Does it matter if I’m attaching a negative connotation? No. Does it matter if you do? For you, yes, it makes a huge difference. Am I attaching a negative connoation? NO. Are you?
@Kirk Not all food is harmful. It’s all about the source. There are very few foods that are harmful by nature, they exist of course, things like soy, canola and grains for example. Most foods are harmless, it’s the methods used that are harmful. At least 99% of the stuff in an ordinary store is poisonous shit, but there’s still plenty of real food out there that’s perfectly fine.
@Hunter It does have a whole lot of uses. Fabric made from hemp is awesome. I also eat a lot of hempseed, very nutritious stuff.
I think weed is good to help you open your mind, but don’t abuse it.
Maybe escaping this reality sometimes isn’t that bad of a thing.
I see it as just gaining a new experience, a new perspective, instead of ‘running away of the pain of human existence.’
It calms your mind and allow you to be more open.
Edit: Many of my friends who started smoking weed all of a sudden have an interest in astronomy and exploration of space (Thought I’d leave this here)
i smoke weed probably once a week, sometimes more or less, and it makes me think about a lot of things, i get really curious and learn about things; for example this website. but i think weed is not bad if you are responsible with it and don’t overuse it. I’ve been smoking for like 5 years and i’m not dumb, i’m doing good in school and i’m happy with life, i see everything in a positive or realistic way, but never negative. I’m all good lol. Weed keeps me young and makes my brain stronger; it will prevent me from Alzheimer in the future; weed can be healthy in some cases, but in others no, obviously. i know I’m killing a lot of neurons but i have plenty. Moderation is a good word on describing the way i smoke MARIJUANA.
what do you think?
Legal Drugs: “Caffeine to make you word hard, nicotine to make you die young, and alcohol to make you forget you are being screwed over.”
I’m sure weed would be legal already if it benefited govt in some way. Otherwise they look at it as something to make people work less. If it becomes legal, it won’t be because it should, but because of money or something.
*Gasp!* Really? :) I’m high right now I’ll warn you :) I keep wondering if I’ll get to that point…I’m definitely not there yet. I’ve flipped flopped with it over the years… and didn’t smoke at all there for a couple (I couldn’t bc of work though…it wasn’t really a conscious willing decision). I do notice when it slows me down, but I’ll always take an objective look at things, and so long as I’m getting shit done (bc if I wasn’t…I wouldn’t be satisfied…and I’d acknowledge weed as the cause..& stop doing it [I think] :)). I dunno… once in awhile I love the shit :)
Let me know how that goes…and I doubt I’ll get hooked or step up to anything worse–I can’t really afford it. Like I said, if I do try it, I’ll only have about two days a month that I actually have the time to enjoy it. I’m not gonna get baked an hour before I gotta go to work–that would be a waste of weed. lol
@Kirk Actually, when you reach a certain level of high on life, no drug will take you higher. They can alter your mind but not take you higher, they can even bring you down. Like last time I did coke, I didn’t feel good at all, I felt like shit. When I smoke weed I get tired, not high like I used to.
weed can definitely be good. I was a regular consumer for about a year and a half (nearly every day) until I started having anxiety attacks a few months ago (unrelated to weed; more likely related to poor diet/stress-inducing lifestyle). At that time, it seemed to exacerbate my anxiety, so I cut myself off for a while. Now that my anxiety’s a bit more under control I find that smoking 1-2 times a week benefits me in so many ways, including reducing my overall anxiety.
I’ve been a regular user off and on for about 2 years now, and I completely agree with Manimal. Stuff really messes with your body’s natural processes and regular use can cause you to be irritable and pessimistic if you’re not high. It becomes a ‘fix’ the same way any other drug does, a coping mechanism. But if you’re willing to accept it as that, there is no reason that you can’t enjoy in moderation.