What if today’s animals…
…used to be highly advanced civilized races who once populated the globe millions and millions and millions of years ago.
But that over time, they became so evolved, realized the secret to life and then over millions of more years devolved back into "primitive" animals.
I don’t know about you, but it seems like "primitive" animals have it made.
They just wonder around looking for food and sex.
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
@Eric Lol, that’s what many people are doing haha. The intelligence of people is very low in most parts of the world, especially compared to earlier ages. I mean, people made sphinxes and temples and all sorts of amazing things with inferior tools and they found the truths and answers with less sources of wisdom. Now people go to school/work and then slack on the couch and eat garbage, they go through life barely thinking, only reacting and they never do anything meaningful.
They’re dumber than most mammals, even many of the intellectual people are.
I look at plants as more ‘intelligent’ than I am. I often wonder if humans are actually the most ‘stupid’ species, and every other animal is on the same page except for us. Harmony is one thing humans struggle with..It could be a result of a complex consciousness, but does complex consciousness necessarily dictate a ‘better’ life, or more ‘intellect?’
Who knows, maybe we have the most basic form of consciousness, and everything else in the universe is looking at us like how we look at the platypus.
@Manimal: I highly doubt that intelligence is lower than earlier times. People made pyramids? You think those thousands of workers (slaves?) all knew how to build a pyramid? Did amazing things with less wisdom?
That’s a very over-romantic idea of the old ages.
Also, more-less evolved doesn’t imply anything about intelligence, which is in itself, a highly dubious term. (it only measures what we want to measure, it’s very subjective).
Also, we are just as much evolved as any other species living on the planet.
im not sure how these ‘primitive’ animals have it made simply because they go around looking for food and sex. sure food is good and ours tastes much better than theirs and sex is great. but when i think about these ‘primitive’ animals having sex i feel like its more of simply reproduction versus when humans have sex its much more than that. and there are many more things beyond food and sex which im not sure what the purpose would be to devolve from. hell these ‘primitive’ animals cant enjoy beer like i am right now. i cant imagine what way they “have it made” when there is so much more to our lives than theirs.
@ Jon, it’s good that you feel that way I guess, that you add meaning to the activities that you do in your life, but you have to realize that the meaning comes from within and is not visible to an outsider. It could be like that with animals, they might think their actions and activities are meaningful too.
life is just incredible in all of its forms and appearances ! dont you think. even couch slugs are amazing, with beating hearts and neurons dancing around in their dull brains. dogs love to fuck , no doubt about that and they seem to enjoy it too. i mean life is incredible, or so it seems to me today
and people were smart then, and are now. i mean look at us all cyber talking away from all parts of the globe. ancient folks couldnt do that. so every age has its brilliances and stupidities i guess.
Life is just a simple concept only when you begin to make it a struggle is when stupidity appears. Like living a whole life full of regret, an absolute waste. I think the animals were giving a much more simple mindset, with no hopes to out doing one another in the successful life department. Some which to be leaders then fights happen but leaders have to be strong and I see nothing wrong with combat with meaning.
Theres only a lot of ‘stupid’ people in the world cause the government decided to make life easier for every body just for the sake of greed, and that’s it. If half these people are to soft to kill their own food, to dumb to pick. Animals are magnificent in that aspect.
@Kirk Exactly. Probably has a lot to do with how animals don’t think the way we do, they couldn’t project so much bullshit onto themselves, which is why they’re more equal and carefree. Some people think “I’m the shit” and positive loving stuff, others think “I suck” and other negative hateful fear-based thoughts, but animals don’t think such things at all. They just do what they do and don’t care, this is the natural way of living.
That’s why life becomes so easy when you stop deluding yourself, no matter who you are it’s a breeze from that moment on.
It is really easy to say that animals are dumb and only have to worry about food and sex where in reality that is just our misunderstanding and (as usual) presumptuous attitudes giving us an over simplified explanation into things we have almost 0 real knowledge. The amount of time other animals spend (and i stress that it is VERY species specific, meaning a fish and a turkey cannot be generalized together) doing things other than eating, mating or surviving in general is not something we have any real understanding of, because the only way we have of trying to comprehend them is by anthropomorphizing them and comparing them to our own ways of wondering and going about curiosity. I promise you certain animals do in fact ponder life, they just don’t ever forget what is most important, continuing to exist.
That’s a fun theory – often it does seem that the simplicity offered in an animal’s life is worthy of admiration. I wonder whether the sum of human experience – including the highest highs, the lowest lows, and our ability to so deeply comprehend reality and our place in it, outweighs the straightforward animal life. A quote whose authorship I can’t recall goes something like “God’s gift to animals is that they don’t have a choice.”
One way we can emulate animals is through meditation and living mindfully – I believe a lot of the simplicity attributed to animal life is due to their absence of an inner monologue, of self-awareness and we can achieve this without sacrificing any of our lovely intellect!
@rickvonstar, Respect, but that’s a really dumb notion.
Wild animals are constantly fighting for their survival–either looking for something to eat or scrambling to not be eaten. I imagine its actually a pretty awful existence.