What’s spirituality for pain?

3 years, 6 months ago

I share other’s pain, suffering. I sympathise, feel bad for sum1 suffering. Spirituality tells me to be tolerant to my pain, to rise above it, to NOT consider it pain.

So why does it preach different when I think of someone else’s pain. Then, am I to be indifferent to other’s by the same law? In no form can pain, physical or mental, make someone happy.

And if my feelings, my sensitivity is genuinely intense, if the suffering in this world and my helplessness in ending it forever are true, will I be labelled a saint if I become insane out of this sympathy?

August 8, 2011 at 6:41 pm

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Profile photo of Matt Matt (@matts) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

Just to clarify, do you mean that you can feel when someone is hurting, and that you are unsure if you should try to help them or not?

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Profile photo of Rajas Rajas (@pacificbrain) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

No, I meant that if I am more sensitive, and get “very disturbed” by someone else’s pain, will I be a “psycho” or a saint?

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Profile photo of Rajas Rajas (@pacificbrain) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

like when I see the orphans, the patients in children’s wards, raped kids n women, innocent victims, hunger deaths, sickness and poverty and tyranny and injustice, then the whole scheme of “good and bad”, “god and devil”, reward for good, punishment for bad etc seems so distant and difficult to fit in a scientific mindset.

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Profile photo of Matt Matt (@matts) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

All that really matters is how you feel and what you do about it. If you are so disturbed by what is going on, about someone’s pain, then maybe you could do something about it. You may not be able to help everyone, but if you just help one person get past their pain, it can help you too. In a situation like this, it really depends on what you want to do. The whole psycho or saint thing is slightly irrelevant. All I can say is to try and look past that sort of mindset and try something to help. Maybe start a group with friends or family that will help people in need.
Also, I have personally found the whole god and devil, good and bad thing to be a matter of opinion. As long as you don’t regret your actions then it is usually good. I don’t know your spiritual background and this is just one person’s opinion so take it for what it’s worth. Pain is mostly an illusion (though I am not saying it should not be taken into consideration). So, maybe you can try and help others get past it and see that it does not need to be that way. I hope this helps.

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Profile photo of paul_g paul_g (@paulg) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

rajas, if you allow such a comment, you sound surprisingly western for someone from your part of the world, in the sense that the conflict sounds like a rational one becoming difficult in your head mostly. i’m not saying your pain or suffering with others is not real, i think it is. but it feels as if the main conflict or clash happens in the head, the brain, namely when you try to put the what you think two “systems” together rationally. so, try to answers this more from within your heart and feelings than rationally.

some other thoughts: you can only help others if you yourself are stable and healthy enough, a) on your own, and b) in helping others. so check yourself if you can do what you think you should do. as matt rightly said, small action and otherwise never minding is much better than always worrying and never helping through action. one person can only do so and so much. finally, i don’t think “rising above pain” should be understood as cutting yourself off from it. rather, embrace it, feel it fully, be aware of it, and recognize that feeling pain doesn’t kill you if you allow yourself to fully feel it. i think that’s what they’d mean, and even then still, it might not be the best for you in your situation. all the best!

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Profile photo of Rajas Rajas (@pacificbrain) 3 years, 6 months ago ago

Thanks Matt n Paul, this helps. Wish you best too.

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