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VernalSoul (@vernalsoul)    1 year, 8 months ago

a relationship advice forum ??

I don’t mind that there are random posts that might be about “dumb” shit according to a lot of people on here, as long as it’s something someone’s truly curious about,

But this relationship advice shit is getting out of control.

If you want to know if you should stay in the relationship or not, Google it. I’m sure someone’s already posted the same question on yahoo. And for the a large number of these, you can go ahead and assume that if you don’t know what to do, then you probably shouldn’t be in a relationship til you figure your shit out for yourself.

I want to have discussions about cool things like space and god and out of body experiences and shit now, instead of working as your advisory board.
Thanks.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

How come the people here that complain the most about topics never post anything about what they want to talk about. I actually agree with @ijesuschrist for once, that if you dont like a topic keep scrolling, and relationships are a part of life so they should be talked about. There is too much dam complaining that goes on here. The site is full of knowledge and if you want to find something you enjoy its here, so go and look for it. @lytning91, just had to say great reply man.

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ELI var namnet (@manimal)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@reinvented2012, How come? Well it’s simple. Same thing as people who complain about the shit on tv yet keep watching, and so on.

Passively receiving is all they want. Take, take, take.
And as such, they’re always at the mercy of others. And when things don’t go like they want, they do not act, they do not move on, THEY COMPLAIN.

So all you people who complain about the shitty topics, POST SOME GREAT ONES YOURSELF.

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Josh (@reinvented2012)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@manimal, Thats what I am saying. If it was so great before and people are so outraged about it why cant they post some interesting things. Maybe it will spark more interest and ideas of others.

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VernalSoul (@vernalsoul)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Holy shit, I did not mean for this to turn into a huge deal. It was just a rant that I had shared with one person who found it greatly amusing and relatable, so i thought i’d share it with more people. bad idea. haha. Yes, i agree, scroll past what you don’t like. it’s just that i’ve seen sooooo many of those lately, and sooo many of them are the same. It was just a frustrated rant from getting on a going through the discussions for the first time in a few days and seeing a fourth of the discussions being those.

@shivvy, good point.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul,

I see your point. But I could ask you just the same question – when did HE become a page for people to rant about things that they could ignore without any effort? It would make your Life so much easier.

To a lot of people here relationships may not seem ‘interesting’ and those who seek advice may appear as rather annoying. But everyone of us has different interests, and I do find it interesting to exchange my experiences – of any kind – with anyone who’s willing to listen. Love is something we think we know all about, but there’s still a lot of things we haven’t quite understood about it.

So to finish this, posts like those don’t really bother me that much (even though sometimes I do think one should not look for advice on the internet). It’s still a part of Life – now don’t tell me you’re not interested in that.

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VernalSoul (@vernalsoul)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@flightfacilities, touche, and quite correct on all levels.

I try to not regret many things, so hopefully some people got amusement out of my post (it looks like at least 3 people did?), but it’s definitely not a thought I would seriously support. You all are right. It was silly.

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Filip (@filipek)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul, Do not get scared away and/or change your believes because your topic creates controversy and/or people do not agree with you.
The fact that so many people discuss in this topic means that it is a subject worth discussing I reckon. It seems like more people are trying to denigrate you because of the topic that you opened rather than discussing the content what it is about, quite sad in my opinion.

You have a valid point as I already said, let the cobbler stick to his last.

@nosorozh, you are putting words in my mouth that I did not say, plus you are taking my words out of context.

“so basically, you value the posts which interest you as those of “higher interests” and ” deeper meanings”, while those you do not wish to read are “low graded absurd stupidities” .”

Basically that is not at all true, I never implied this. I agree with you that the purpose of HE is to be open minded, being able to discuss all sorts of things, but those kind of topics should be in line with HE’s mission.
Sure I can discuss the color and consistency of my poop on HE, or the type of clothes I wear, or the type of shampoo I use, but there are plenty other forums where these kind of things can be discussed. I am not saying that this is BAD or WORSE than the other topics that are discussed on HE. I am just saying that this is not the place for these kind of subjects.
It is hard to draw the line what is in line with HE’s mission statement and what is not, I agree with that.

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Alex (@staylucky)1 year, 8 months ago ago

It’s funny how a complaint thread about site content going down the toilet is on its second page of posts while other far more interesting threads sit untouched.

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VernalSoul (@vernalsoul)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@filipek, It really wasn’t supposed to be a “serious” topic. I just wanted some people who were equally frustrated to find it relatable and amusing. Some people might agree, and some disagree, I don’t think really think it matters. People should be able to post about whatever they’re genuinely interested in on here, and people are free to be frustrated and annoyed by it. I agree with @staylucky, that this really shouldn’t be two pages deep of discussion.

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phanci3 (@phanci3)1 year, 8 months ago ago

I think relationship advice on this forum is good because you will see advice bery unlike most of the stuff you see on other forums. HEthens put unique and interesting spins on even down-to-earth topics.

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L.T (@1love)1 year, 8 months ago ago

“funny the way it is, if you think about it”-DMB

The topic of this thread is about how HE is becoming irrelevant to what it use to be. Ironically, this thread is essentially about a relationship advice. Its about the relationship of you and High Existence, so this thread is also the cause of your problem.

I do agree that this site has lost its ‘magic’ compared to when it was a newborn, but everybody has the right to start any thread they want. Its the internet and if people start restricting on what you can post, then the internet becomes dead.

Instead of bitching about this, lets find a solution? START BUMPING ALL THE GOOD OLD SHIT BACK!

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Tine (@tine)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul,

meh, its one of the functions of the site, seeking help, the reason why there are so many is because there are now so many people joining, just bc we had advice thread the day before, doesn’t mean someone new hasn’t joined, did not see it or found it relevant and posted their own, specific to their circumstances,

i think you are just realizing what most ppl do when on this site for awhile, everything is recycled endlessly,

use this annoyance to spark new convos and ideas

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Tine (@tine)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul,

meh, its one of the functions of the site, seeking help, the reason why there are so many is because there are now so many people joining, just bc we had advice thread the day before, doesn’t mean someone new hasn’t joined, did not see it or found it relevant and posted their own, specific to their circumstances,

i think you are just realizing what most ppl do when on this site for awhile, everything is recycled endlessly,

use this annoyance to spark new convos and ideas

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Ray Butler (@trek79)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@danfontaine, “There’s two ends of the spectrum: suffering people who create help topics, and bored people who make validation-of-existence topics.”-Gold.
I get peoples frustrations with impulsive thread creation. I personally steer clear of relationship advice threads, for the most part, because it is not my strength. I also avoid drug, meditation, fitness, healthy eating and as Dan said the validation-of-existence topic (unless they are stepping on my turf and I think they missed some things).
I heard that originally this site was for stoners to talk shop.

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TheSkaFish (@theskafish)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul, I completely understand but I also feel that the relationship threads have value. Relationships can be a very difficult subject for some people, and I for one feel the advice you get from people who don’t know you and don’t have any reason to be biased works best. Asking the same thing to family or your friends will result in biased answers usually. Not only that, but there are aspects of relationships that can be intellectual. Part of what this site’s about is being a community, giving help where it’s needed to make better lives.

I feel that these threads are in keeping with the site’s ideas about personal development and increased understanding, from personal experience…..I’d say I’ve gotten some of the best relationship advice in my life from here, it really helped me out a lot.

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

Does anyone else feel bad that they can’t help people with relationship problems because they’re dealing with the same shit? I do.

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Filip (@filipek)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@beyond, Pour your heart out mate, we are here for you!

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Anonymous (@)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@filipek, The only thing to do in a relationship problem is to talk with the person. But the shitty part is that a lot of people actually seek help because they won’t realize if they’re making a right decision, and they lean on the advices of strangers. I never understood the public sharing of a problem. And I think that everyone feels free to talk about their problems, so when I can’t help someone because I’ve lived through it, that’s because I definitely miss my right judgment. And I miss my right judgment because there are too many people with problems. I poured my heart out.

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Filip (@filipek)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@beyond, In the end you need to resolve the problems by yourself, but sometimes it may help to get a second opinion, another viewpoint from a stranger, to see things clearer, more objectively, not being overtaken by your own emotions.

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Healing Chime Audio (@healingchime)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@vernalsoul, @ijesuschrist, @kyle, @oakbulut, @shivvy, @equanimity
Hey I FOUND A PATTERN !!! I like conversations about Y and think that my experiences on HE have been mostly about Y. Talking about X is of course ok, but all the time is a title obnoXious. But why would anyone talk about something as mundane as Z on this awesome site? I mean too much Z is going to just ruin it. Save all the Z for some other more popular and less awesome web hub please.

I mean people who talk about Y have standards that we live by. We are actually trying to improve ourselves here. Talking about Z is really going in the wrong directions and is completely contradictory to our efforts at talking about Y. I mean the internet is big, but we want to control this little club to be the way I want, right?

We know that if we discourage people talking about Z, we can maintain a loose sense of control for focusing on what we deem more important (like Y). We will ignore the fact that people come from many different places in life, and all seem interested in conversing on this site. NO WAY – its pissing me off! This site is only about Y and sometimes X, and all the people who just want it to be about X, Y, and Z need to open their minds and go somewhere else (especially those all ’bout Z)

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Mikey W (@mikeyw829)1 year, 8 months ago ago

When did HE become a site where people desire a pre selected list of new age topics to be discussed? it’s good to mix in some topics that are rooted in reality. We can’t always be talking about karma and past lives and mushrooms

It’s no coincidence that spiritualists really don’t have any incite into the practicalities of life other than reassuring the person they are an eternal soul.

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Tine (@tine)1 year, 8 months ago ago

@healingchime,

–all the people who just want it to be about X, Y, and Z –

also, they need to ‘x’amine ‘y’our ‘z’ipper

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Ray Butler (@trek79)1 year, 8 months ago ago

I think everyone always knows the right thing to do in every situation, they just suck at actualizing that sense. Conditioning, fear and conceptual interuptions, own these and Bob’s your uncle. People usually hear the same rhetoric over and over again then just go do whatever they normally do, same-old same-old.

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