Who should be President and why?

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conglistedsoldier (@mumbojumbo63)    2 years, 3 months ago

@Alex "People use planned parenthood as an excuse to not act responsibly" That is not true. Planned parenthood allows underprivileged women the opportunity and resources to act responsibly. I have been going there for sexual health services for 7 years, since I was 18. They have provided me and thousands of other women with free cancer screening, STD testing, and free birth control. It is because of them that I have been able to do the responsible thing and NOT get pregnant to begin with. They offer MANY MANY much needed women’s health services other than abortions. Please don’t criticize and organization you are not familiar with.

@Chris YES

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 3 months ago ago

If we cannot get over our moral issues, then our present reality will never get much better.

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Planned parenthood is tits!

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Alex

No way… morals are important, however, they are also relative to the individual and what usually happens is people use their “perceived morals” to cast judgment on others for the way they live and differentiate themselves.

Morals are also relative to the environment of people living in it. See what happens when our economy crashes…morals go out the window. Its survival of the fittest. The economy is the most important thing.

Also you are not ignoring the moral issues, you are allowing states to make the ruling in perspective within their own view of morals.

A simple federal ruling is not the answer to solving moral issues.

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Evan (@mathais43)2 years, 3 months ago ago

“There is a tragic flaw in our precious Constitution, and I don’t know what can be done to fix it. This is it: Only nut cases want to be president.”

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TheSkaFish (@theskafish)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Evan I’d want to be President. I’d end the wars and make alternate energy, curing diseases, environment/animals and improving the standard of living priority #1. But I don’t have the cash to play, and it’s a life investment. I don’t want to be another boring suit.

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TheSkaFish (@theskafish)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Evan I’d want to be President. I’d end the wars and make alternate energy, curing diseases, environment/animals and improving the standard of living priority #1. But I don’t have the cash to play, and it’s a life investment. I don’t want to be another boring suit.

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TheSkaFish (@theskafish)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Evan I’d want to be President. I’d end the wars and make alternate energy, curing diseases, environment/animals and improving the standard of living priority #1. But I don’t have the cash to play, and it’s a life investment. I don’t want to be another boring suit.

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Ron Paul’s isolationist foreign policy complete disqualifies him from being the president. We are a world super power and I would like to keep it that way.

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Evan (@mathais43)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Ska That’s basically what I was getting at. Becoming president requires a very rigid lifestyle that few, including you, are willing to follow. Coupled with the fact that today’s political climate would almost certainly prevent a president from being able to accomplish the admirable (and shared) goals you listed, it’s no wonder that the only ‘legitimate candidates’ that we have to ‘choose’ from are delusional, power-hungry, inept, or all-of-the-above.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@ Daniel

Have you seen our latest Bill? China owns our debt, Russia and the Middle East have all the oil, Brazil and Argentina produces all the food, Europe our largest investor is on the brink of collapse. World Superpower? Only by name, by future, we are one and all the same.

What happens if the US does not step up to superpower status…will the world collapse into chaos? Im not convinced just yet…

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

So let’s just give up! Why even bother trying to save a country in a rut, right? If Ron Paul wasn’t a geopolitical retard then I might vote for him.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Who says that they need help…America the military industrial complex? We make tons of money creating top of the line military equipment and selling it. You think if we stop…we would lose our competitive advantage?

We don’t have money. And why spend that money on countries waging their own guerrilla wars. Show me where in history that a foreign occupying force actually helped a country.

Im not saying completely tear down our National Defense. Build that up and protect our homeland…but lets not overextend ourselves like the Roman empire.

Edit: I think they are better ways to spend our limited resources than spend it on outrageous military campaigns. The world is so globally intertwined with trade that the need for a world superpower is decreasing.

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Julien (@neek)2 years, 3 months ago ago

I don’t understand how America can attempt to ‘fix’ a country when it can’t even fix itself. If America was a great country sure, go ahead and help others do the same. But it’s not. I completely agree with Ron Paul’s Noninterventionism foreign policy.

‘Be the change you want to see in the world.’ Ghandi.

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

So now foreign policy is limited to wars?

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Wars, Financial Aid, and Military Bases..am I missing anything that has not characterized the US over the last decade?

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

International relations, more specifically trade agreements and cooperative actions

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Alec (@alec7)2 years, 3 months ago ago

I don’t think it makes since to use tax payers money to solve foreign problems when there are poor and dying people in our own country.

In fact, I see very few situations where I want the federal government using taxpayer money for just about anything besides national defense and a few others.

Taxpayer money should be kept as local as possible to ensure maximum choice and realization of its impacts.

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

It does make sense because, as the old adage says, “with great power comes great responsibility.” We have the means to help others who are suffering much more than the people in this country and we should excercise those means. Unless you subscribe to an entirely nationalistic point of view then humans should try to help other humans within reason. Many of our international projects are well within the aforementioned reason.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@ Daniel

He is not advocating for isolationism in international relations, trade and cooperative actions…just militarily. That’s just a tiny tiny fraction of the 600 billion we spend each year on the military.

Your main point however was about interfering with the sovereignty of foreign nations, waging war and being a military superpower.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Yes but the military is not helping the people. You want to help? Send some food. Go over and help them. Sending money does nothing but line the pockets of those that are oppressing them.

Thats all Ron Paul is saying. Next time he debates..listen closely to what hes trying to communicate..i think after this you may have another opinion.

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

That’s why we don’t send moneygrams to oppressive rulers…

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Alec (@alec7)2 years, 3 months ago ago

i think personal charity and donation should be advocated. let me have more of my tax money back and Il donate more to charity. and I can donate to who/where I want.

most of government foreign aid ends up in corrupt hands, if it even makes it there. the government has proven time and time again to be inefficient.

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Peter (@searchingforthetruth)2 years, 3 months ago ago

Believe it or not..we have done that and are still doing it. Foreign aid to Pakistan?

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Daniel (@meta)2 years, 3 months ago ago

If only that was the way the world works… if only

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Alex (@hollowinfinity)2 years, 3 months ago ago

@Peter, I disagree. There is nothing more important than morals. They may appear to be different for the individual, but I really think thats illusory. If we fix our moral issues, things will naturally get better after. We have a million unaddressed moral issues.

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