As the title suggests, I wish to be stupid. This is why:
First, what does intelligence do to me?
– I missed a lot of opportunities in the past, just due to procrastination. Where does the procrastination come from? From thinking to much. It inhibits my future actions: High intelligence means high self reflexion. Nothing is good enough. I am not good enough. It destroys motivation: When you realise nothing is important, what is left over that drives you? It isolates: When you reach a high level of thinking, others dont understand you anymore and bag you as weird. It harms trust: When you analyse every body movement of the oppenent, every comment made, you always find something going against you.
Secondly, Why do I envy “stupid” people?
– They dont think. They do. Naturally, they do a lot of “mistakes”. They consum, watch trash tv, eat junk food. You say this is wrong. But theyre not aware of that. In their perspective, the brand makes them feel good, tv is entertaining, burgers just taste good. They just dont care. So, if you go a step further, animals can be seen models for me. They do just exactly what they are here see. Do we know? No. When you come with an evolutional explanation, does it make you happy? …Alright, Im here to survive and to pass on my genes. Hm…then, for what do we need such a size of brain? For me, it just makes us conscious about of how fucked up everything is. Its a evolutionary mistake that will be selected out anyway, as intelligent people get less children.
And all this stuff I talked about now is what stupid people do not waste a any second with. How wonderful is that?
Now, Im here at high existence.
Well, I probably be able to forecast you answers. You come up with being in the present, or with meditating. But what is their essence?
– To stop thinking. In other words, to neglect our intelligence potential. Unfortunately, this is what intelligent people built their personality on. I can admit, Im rather introverted. I will never be the popular, funny guy favored in our extrovert society. My brain is my asset. So, who am I without my way of thinking? My self? If I would only be my self, no Ego, no “I”, I would just go around satisfying my basic needs, means, just eating, sleeping, fucking. And guess what? This is what animals basically do, and narrow minded people to an extent.
What do you think? Maybe, I already proved my stupidity with my statements? Now, I want to discuss with some clever guys :)
your post is a little bit of a “how many strawmen” can you spot? exercise. can you find them all?
it sounds like you’re still a prisoner of your brain – that whole first paragraph is full of beliefs you’ve adopted as excuses. None of them are actual “truths”, but you’ve chosen to believe in them. ditto the last paragraph.
the brain is a tool, just like your legs. just because I can run a few miles doesn’t mean I run everywhere (even though it’s “faster”), because I like going slowly and soaking in my surroundings most of the time. sometimes I run, in part because I like the way I feel afterwards. plus I enjoy having a body that is closer to an Acura (I’m no Ferrari) than a beat-up VW. it’s more reliable, performs well when I need it to.
meditating is a form of exercise for your brain. the goal of stopping thinking via meditation is so that, when you do need to think, your head is clear and works as a tool for your use rather than being cluttered and uncontrollable. stupid people actually think a lot, it’s just not efficient thinking.
I feel really sorry for people who are not yet born, but I am unfortunate enough to know pretty well their stupid future parents. It leads to miserable devolution. :) You may stop thinking about stuff you don’t like, sure. Everybody tries to do that, it’s nothing more than escapism. But you can also be rational and use common sense, otherwise you would be leading an example for how not to be wise for the unfortunate narrow-minded individuals who cannot guess what’s good for them, so they could be of use to someone else. Tadaaa! Also, consider breathing a basic need. That’s what living creatures do.
Now imagine telling the same post word by word to your kids one day. They’ll learn a lot from their father, for sure. Just don’t expect them to like you. You’re rather a little anti-inspirational, but you’re making a very credible and profound point about being a potential dumbass.
Thinking too much about irrelevant and harmful shit is actually being STUPID. So you should feel lucky you aren’t. :)
I can completely relate to this, as I’ve had the same thoughts before. The whole ignorance is bliss notion can be really appealing sometimes. But you have to ask yourself honestly, if you could just flip a switch and make the change, would you do it? I’ve decided that I could and would not. Your awareness is a gift, you just have to figure out a way to harness it in a way that creates positive energy for yourself, and those around you. Read everything you can on science (especially biology and evolutionary history, it’s awe inspiring), the cosmos, history, and spirituality. Figuring out where we came from and why we are here is an endless task, but this is what broke me out of the stalemate of existentialism. Your mind is yours, and yours alone, so use your will to focus it on positive endeavors of self improvement and empowerment. You have to truly want this, otherwise it won’t work.
Depression is a huge problem for people like us, so do your best to avoid it. Sometimes you need to deal with things from your past head on before you can get on with your life. Sometimes meditation (you don’t seem to fond of the subject, but seriously, do some research on it, there are tons of scientific studies proving meditation is a powerful tool.), exercise and an improvement in diet can go a long way in fending off negative thoughts. As you enforce positive change in your life, you will notice your introverted side start to fade.
Also as a side note, smart people are not an evolutionary blunder, I believe the human race has been much smarter for much longer than mainstream information would have you believe. It’s the “stupid” people that are the evolutionary blunder, they are a product of today’s societal and political environment. Most people have learned not to think for themselves, to believe whatever the tv tells them, and believe everything politicians tell them about the world at large. Don’t let that happen to you, trust your intuition, spread as much positivity as possible, read read read, and make your ancestors proud and the world a better place in the process!
@kolli, we are animals, and meditation is about just being in the moment, which is what all animals do most of the time. Over time we developed an intellectual capacity which guaranteed our reproductive successes and persistence. So here we are, a meditative animal with intellectual capacity. Play with both and have fun.
Procrastination comes but a lack of interest. What did you procrastinate on..school work? Traditional schooling is an outdated model. Everyone procrastinates in school because schools don’t know how to truly “teach” anymore. Thats bullshit.
“Where does the procrastination come from? From thinking to much. It inhibits my future actions”
Wrong. Procrastination comes from a lack on interest, not intelligence and definitely not “thinking too much.” Perhaps you “think too much” on things you are actually interested about, instead on the boring events in your life that you don’t do and instead procrastinate about.
“When you reach a high level of thinking, others dont understand you anymore and bag you as weird. It harms trust:’
You are obviously growing up in an environment that does not appreciate a high level of thinking. The people around you don’t understand you or “high level thinkers” because they are trapped in the material world..they are prisoners of their own mind, and locked into their feelings. . Don’t let people tread on you man…don’t let others bring you down. People who talk about others are small people…they are scared scared people. That is why you came here man…to search for answers. Realize that your environment is not the “entire” world..and it is not a fair reflection of what “is” and what “is supposed to be.”
You describe intelligence as a curse – but i think the curse is the way people around you react to that intelligence.
Your brain is a powerful tool, an asset. that’s not a bad thing, it’s what you use it for that can be bad/good. So just decide to use it for something you like, and say fuck all the people who can’t handle my succes, independence or what not.
Point is, being smart is not a bad thing, you are just confusing abillities with the negative outcomes they often have in societies that are run by intolerant morons.
“It is no measure of health, to be perfectly well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.” – Jiddu Krishnamurti
Get out there and use that brain of yours and stop being such a stoic, wheeping bag of depression. Don’t feel bad about all the shit you could go wrong with, and don’t worry that you will be introverted, or wont have kids; you don’t become impotent because you have a well functioning brain – that’s like saying your car becomes unable to drive if it’s gearbox is well oiled. Check out some of the blogs and discussions on this site and realize that you are not alone with your wish to share thoughts on things that might not appeal to your average joe. start giving a shit – it’s much more fun!
@rickvonstar, you know these typical groups like emos, punks, hooligans? What has struck me is that they always say, “we don’t give a shit about what others think of us.” You noticed that? But in my opinion, by styling and behaving in their way they already make the statement, that they obviously want to distinguish themselves from the majority. You agree? “They give a shit” is not true. They only pretend to not give a shit. In their mind, they say “we don’t want to be like you”. Its just a defence mechanism, like Freud would say. And therefore, I think you statement is not you.
@daveb, what is “how many strawmen?” I don’t know the expression, as Im no native English speaker. But okay, you said, my statements are not true. Then, tell me what is the truth?;) Nice comparison with the cars. I would choose the VW. Why? I can drive from A to B as well as with the Ferrari, but it costs me less fuel. Finally, I assume you think Im against meditation. Im not. I used it as an example to act “stupid” And I chose stupid.
@beyond, I always try to use common sense. But yes, I escaped. From the materialistic world. From the idealistic world. What is left for me is the natural world. So, what is natural? To philosophy about life all day, or to actually live? For intelligent people, this question is just too easy. “It cannot be that easy” is the brain’s dogma.
@pipthecynical, okay, you are thinking about making the world better. But it remains to “thinking”, right? Your brain is going through the endless pro and contra list until it is on the contra side. And at this point, negative thoughts curse you into resignation.
@reklaw, Yes, I would do. You can compare it to dealing with death. No one wants to die. Why? Because the brain says at the current state “I want to survive”. Its nature. But when you are dead, you obviously cannot think about this anymore. Therefore, the distinction between life or death is irrelevant. The same goes for “conscious” and “unconscious”. In my conscious state I obviously don’t want change to unconscious. But when the step is taken, I will never know that I had a “conscious” life before. I hope my point is clear;) Here again, I am not against meditation. In a harsh way, I used it even as evidence for “stupidity”.
Its all about perspective. Why should I improve myself? There is nothing to achieve. Evolutionary I do my work. I survive. And later on I will do the reproduction job. The whole self-improvement industry is financed by people like me thinking too much. Reflecting my world view, I am rather in resignation instead of depression.
@cognitivedissident, No, the red pill? Im realist.
@dick, Nothing to oppose here;)
@searchingforthetruth, And where does lack of interest again come from? For me, it is based on cost-benefit analysis. And this again based on: too much thinking. Before I do something it gets analysed. And the analysis is never ending. Hence, the doing is never starting: procrastination.
Furthermore, I don’t let people tread on me. It is just like this: I feel like I have overtaken the materialistic world. Then I have overcome the idealistic world. And now I see: There is just nothing behind that. If I click on “reset” I get the natural world. This is where I want to be.
@kolli, The whole goal in improving yourself is for happiness and self worth. I know these things seem pointless, but you can choose to live like a dead person, or you can choose to make whatever meaning this life has to offer yours. Like I said, I used to be an existentialist, and it’s really hard to see a way out when you’re in the midst of it. Consider it a phase in the journey. You have to break everything down into meaninglessness before you can reconstruct and see things clearly. I know the positivity stuff sounds like bs, I sure thought so not so long ago. You just have to come to terms with the fact that it is the only path to whatever fulfillment this existence has to offer.
@kolli, nah man I don’t give a shit about a lot of stuff, and it’s not to maintain some kind of image, but I see what you say. A lot of people use it as a way to set themselves apart, which if someone does that just for the sake of doing that, they probably are a little off ;)
More like “selective-giving-a-shit” hah
@kolli, when i was a kid i played a lot of computer and video games, and when i grew up i started putting them down as “mindless wastes of time” but now, whenever i am suffering from excessive intellectual stimulation i plug in to something like Rollercoaster Tycoon for an hour or so and it’s great to do something mindless for a change. So maybe you should take up dumb games like that every now and then to train your mind to chill out
@kolli, Sometimes stupidity can bring the utmost happiness it seems…its like you don’t give a fuck…because you’re so out of the intellectual emotions? (if that’s what you wanna call it)….but does it seem like we torture ourselves with thought sometimes?
…The dog never complains that he isn’t made in God’s image. Learn from him
Sometimes I wish I could be as simple as the Dog.
@kolli, what I was meaning by “strawmen” is that you ask questions and then give answers like there is only that one answer. “High inteligence means high self reflexion, nothing is good enough” You may have decided that is true for you, but you can also use your high intelligence to change that “truth” into a new truth. like this:
high intelligence means high self reflection; there are always new things to learn and new ways to grow. and learning new things is fun for people with high intelligence.
and this: “When you reach a high level of intelligence, others don’t understand you”. How about: When you reach a high level of intelligence, it’s easier to communicate with a wider variety of people and share their experiences.
high intelligence is only limiting because you believe it is.
As to this one: Then, tell me what is the truth?;) The truth is pretty much what we believe. and it can change whenever we decide to change.
@rickvonstar, my son is a huge RCT3 fan. doesn’t seem so mindless to a 9-year old, all the designing and building. he dreams in rollercoaster.
“One should not imagine oneself to be one with the eye or
independent of it or the owner of it.
The same with ear and all the other senses, including the mind.
Nor should one imagine oneself to be identical with the world or
contained in it or independent of it or the owner of it.
In this way, free from imaging, one no longer clings to the things
of the world. When one no longer clings, there is no more agitation,
insecurity, and worry. Being no longer worried, one can reach into
the depth of oneself and understand that where there has been lost
there is now fulfillment.”
This is a passage from “Samyutta Nikaya” of the Buddha
@daveb, When i was a kid i would spend a of time planning out my parks and thinking up ride designs, but now that I am older that type of thing is more or less automatic and it feels like I am on autopilot. Actually just came up with a great idea for a park when I woke up this morning hah…
I wrote maybe a thousand words and i just erased them and wrote this because the thing is with people like “us” (for all you know you just think you are smart) there is no arguing the topic, are minds are set in what we’ve “discovered” and even if we don’t like it it’s hard to change. But yeah over thinking sucks…
The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.
The sad part about my Reply is that before i set out to write those “thousand words” i knew it would end like this…
@kolli, there is such a thing as wisdom instead of intelligence, i prefer wisdom over intelligence, if intelligence means solving puzzles and being smart. being stupid is not fun, because if you find yourself in a miserable position you don´t know how you came there and you don´t know how to get out of there, and you don´t appreciate the happiness you´re in, because you don´t know it could be worse, namely being confronted with your own stupidity because you thought you was intelligent.
Illiteracy in America. According to this ^, people pay more attention to their self-confidence, rather than their actual realistic capabilities. It’s also true about the whole world. Always funny when people overestimate themselves. :)
@reklaw, at some point, meaninglessness sets me free. If I consider Im one of 7 billion people living just in a wink of human history. But that’s not enough for our brains.
@rickvonstar, Guess what I played in my childhood all the time :)
@mindlessfreak30, That is exactly what I mean.
@daveb, I see it completely different. High self-reflection means constant evaluation of yourself. This means again that often new things will be left out as they do not meet the criteria of evaluation. Furthermore, a higher level of intelligence means limited conversation partners. Small talk is too superficial, most people are too predictable. What we believe is not true, but only true for us. Nothing is true, therefore everything is permitted. And the possibility of “everything” provokes my mindset;)
@carlos, the quote sums up my introduction perfectly:)
@oaktree, I think, wisdom evolves out of intelligence. And I don’t mean your meaning of intelligence formed mainly by school. Many people write good grades, as they’re totally in the box formed by the institution. But this doesn’t automatically mean that they are able to think out of the box, what we do here at high existence.
Be careful what you wish for! I believe our mind is the greatest asset we have as human beings. I understand what you mean though, how much easier would life be if we weren’t constantly analyzing ourselves and trying to understand the world around us? However, being conscious of the fact that we are conscious enables to dream bigger, challenge “truth”, and grow on an individual basis. The mind is man’s greatest tool and I believe we often greatly take it for advantage.