Are we reaching a tipping point in the world where soon we will be seeing World War 3? Or is it already here but no one has labeled it as such?
With tension mounting in Iran regarding nuclear capabilities, the conflict between Israel and Palastine in the Gaza Strip, and Russia and China talking about the repercussions of attacking Iran, what is this all pointing to?
On top of all that, the world seems to be awakening to the fact that our old ways of living are not working anymore. It seems that with everything going on in the world, it points to some tough times ahead.
Any info and contributions are appreciated regarding a potential WW3 and/or the current conflict with Iran and other countries.
Well, the First World War happened because colonial ambitions overlapped each other. That war was the beginning of the end for actual, unhidden, colonialism.
The second was due to the conflict between the new ideologies that arose in the former colonial powers.
I’d be very suprised if these Arab nations had it in them to fight a major war and I really don’t know what Russia and China are up to properly.
Nuclear weapons are pretty inefficient compared to biological ones, though. Why would you destroy everything when you can just kill a population and keep all the lovely property and land intact?
I can’t see people getting behind a major war in Western countries, either. There would likely be rioting and disorder that would cause civil wars in developed countries before another world war where the people willingly participated.
But due to consumerism and the culture we have built…people would be screwed. The animal inside would come out in an instant. If you thought we were spiritually dead before I don’t think there would be any coming back if society had a major breakdown. The age of the Last Man would be upon us forever…if we are lucky!
I find it highly unlikely a third World War would ever happen. With the invention of nuclear weapons, any world leader would be pretty reluctant to push the button, because that would mean instant retaliation. “Mutually assured destruction” and all that. Nukes are just scare tactic weapons, with very little practicality. So, all that being said, I would say the ‘tipping point’ is still years ahead. The majority of people in Western countries do not care what happens overseas, as long as it is not happening in their back yard, they will take no action and continue about their daily lives. As far as chemical/biological weapons as Mr. Kal mentioned, those are also extremely unlikely, as it is a war crime to use them and the repercussions would be immense on any country that uses them.
So, TL;DR: It’ll be a while before anything is actually done about the atrocities going on overseas, as long as most of the world is in luxury and comfort.
@drakonerythros, “With the invention of nuclear weapons, any world leader would be pretty reluctant to push the button, because that would mean instant retaliation.”
-With that statement, you are assuming there arent batshit crazy leaders in this world. I can think 4, without even thinking too hard, that are so fucked up in their head and mental state, that they would push the button without thinking of the consequences.
I think to really understand, you should watch “Dr Strangelove, or how I fell in love with the bomb”. Its a satirically comedy that holds a lot of truth.
@chodebalm, War on that scale is the result of un-intelligent people resorting to using radical resources. Never, under any circumstance, is a war a good first, second, third or 40th option. I guess the real question you have to ask is, are our world leaders intelligent people? Most are, some arent. The new regime in China is giving me hope, and China is a key.
My first reaction to this question was the obvious answer of no. With the amount of technology today, everyone would just die and we’d have to start evolving from cockroaches since they’d be all that’s left. But then it occured to me that we don’t fight wars with massive amount of violence anymore (at least comparatively speaking). The next World War will not be nation vs. nation but people vs. government. It will happen when people from every country mutually decide to rise up and demand independence from those who think they know what’s best for the people. The free market will prevail and personal responsibility will actually mean something.
I’m not talking about some hippie utopian bs, I’m thinking more like colonial America but with more technology and less witch hunts (unless witches come out of hiding). I don’t think this will really ever happen but a boy can dream.
@ijesuschrist, Awesome! That picture truly is worth a thousand words.
@kahlib, “I think we are in WWIII, and that it’s primarily a war of ideas.” Love this contrarian perspective to the information singularity where the ‘ideas’ are our next evolutionary step. War or evolution…there is a change-a-coming. I think it is going to be beautiful. That it is all going to turn out okay.
Einstein said: “I do not know how the Third World War will be fought, but I can tell you what they will use in the Fourth — rocks!”
@yoinkie, Unfortunately there are a lot of intelligent leaders with fucked up methods. But the problem is always in the followers. Since the expansion of the Internet and, the existence of sites like this where people from different countries follow ideas rather than nations, it would be absurd if political leaders play their war games out in the open. If it happens to be a “world war”, it’s going to be a war against governments that approved the war. I know where I’ll stand. Or maybe I’m too idealistic in that aspect and believe that dumb people aren’t going ruin the planet.
@educationforall, If we would wisely use our resources, we would not need ‘another’ second planet. In fact, we have a food SURPLUS rather than a deficit like most people believe. Do you know how much food is thrown away every day? Enough to feed every single person on the planet and still have a surplus.
@chodebalm, There are many ways the next decade could play out. With the Israeli Palestine war going on, we have to wait and see if anyone backs Palestine because that may almost indefinitely bring us into it. If that country were to be Iran and we started a war with them, China and Russia are most likely to get involved and I think if things were to escalate to that we may see ourselves in another world war, unless we are able to resolve with a series of peace talks, but that is unpredictable at this point.
The hope for the future is that the wars end without total destruction and an evolution of the mind occurs as @meta referred to in a way. People all over the world need to take back control of the government and not have these elected officials snatching up our rights and making life threatening decisions for us. Returning back to an American of the 1900’s might be best, where people had skills and lived in close knit communities and shared with each other and shit got done and the peoples vote and ideas and opinions mattered. That’s the only way there will be hope for the future.
WWIII will never happen (for now). The US has already intervened enough in the Middle East that every country that resides in that area hates us just as much as they hate themselves. Russia and China wouldn’t let the US step into this who Giza situation.
The whole nuclear/biological warfare usage won’t happen and that’s due to MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). We may have some very irrational dictators and leaders throughout the would but, they wouldn’t dare endanger the welfare of their country and possible resources.
However, we have unconstitutionally attacked other nations before so the possibility of the US stepping in and acting as a police power in Palestine is not unfeasible. As a result, Russia and China may just also get involved as well.
@misterkal, i was in a telekinetic-battle-mind-kinda mood is all. jk, i guess i was feeling lazy and decided to reply with a slogan.
in my defense though, every war is an idea. you can’t have a war without a story of who you are and what you are fighting.
i think its mainly we are just now becoming aware of the scope of the the conflict with our 24 hour news services always on the prowl to send something sensational directly into our home
the way you’ll know is if you look at the situation historically, the Middle East has always been a hotbed for conflict, and though it continues today, i wonder if the scope has increased or decreased in size
Honestly, I hope full-blown officially-declared war breaks out! If you look at the bigger picture of the previous two World Wars, they had incredibly positive consequences. Both removed nasty dictators from power, and both had unparalleled benefits to medical, technological, and economical development.
As far as death and destruction and all that jazz: I think the global population has reached a critical point, and losing several hundred million people might actually do the planet good. In all of our science and technology, we have effectively stifled the forces of nature that would naturally control our populations. Given that, I think war is one of the only ways to remedy that imbalance.
“I can’t see people getting behind a major war in Western countries, either. There would likely be rioting and disorder that would cause civil wars in developed countries before another world war where the people willingly participated.”
we’re already doing it. we’re told to support our troops cause they’re ‘keeping us safe’. safe from who? America is a major cause of the war. Iran can’t try to protect themselves from those crazy fucking western terrorist people, but it’s ok for the US to have the most weapons in the world cause they’re trying to save the world. people are really stupid enough to believe this bullshit.