Wow, an Excellent Analogy for Religion
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A roman catholic sent me this once, It made me chuckle.
I think this is the idea behind that image:
Do you believe in life after birth?
In the womb of a pregnant woman two babies carry on a conversation. One is a believer, the other an atheist.
The atheist: Do you believe in life after birth?
The believer: Certainly. Everybody knows that there is a life after birth. We are here to grow and become quite strong and prepared for what is waiting for us next.
The atheist: Come now! There could be no life after birth! Can you imagine how this life would be?
The believer: I don’t know all the details, but I believe that there is more light outside, and perhaps that we can wander around and eat food out there.
The atheist: Nonsense! It is impossible for us to walk and to eat! Ludicrous! We have the umbilical cord that nourishes us. I simply want you to consider the following: life after birth cannot exist because our life, the umbilical cord, is already quite short.
The believer: I am sure it is possible. It only will be a bit different. I can picture it.
The atheist: But there’s no one who’s ever returned from there! Life simply ends after birth. And frankly, life is of great suffering in the darkness.
The believer: No, no! I don’t know exactly how life will be after birth, but, in any case, we will meet our mother and she will take care of us!
The atheist: Mother? Do you think we have a mother? Well, where is she then?
The believer: She is everywhere around us, and we are inside her! We move because of her and thanks to her we get around and we live! Without her we would not exist.
The atheist: Absurd! I have never seen such a mother; therefore, there is no such thing.
The believer: I cannot agree with you. In fact, perhaps when everything is quiet, we can hear her sing and feel how she caresses our world. I firmly believe that our true life starts only after birth.
Dr. Jirina Prekop, PhD, Czech Psychologist
Translated to English by Ily Reis
Prepared by SGNY/SAB
Babies can hear the voice of Mom in the womb. That’s enough evidence, no? And then maybe you would say that someone could hear the voice of God in the “real” world after birth. Well it doesn’t happen to everyone other than a few, in contrast with babies who all hear the voice of Mom. And they know it is mom since all mammals have innately in them a mother archetype.
And thus I give Dave my support in his case against this analogy that doesn’t really say much about God.
I can’t help myself.
I think that there are already beings on this earth superior to mankind.
crocodiles for 1. they have lasted millions of years unchanged.
it is SO human to think that we are the superior animal on this planet.
throw us in the nile then we’ll see who’s superior :)
Good Video. If you think of crystals as living beings, and this world is 80% silicon compound, this world is a living being. It does give a new meaning to the term “Mother Earth”
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@Chemicalbr0 @Alan, interesting thought…
This is what I think: Reptiles were masters in adapting themselves to the environment, humans are masters in adapting the environnment to themselves. Read: Conversation(s) with God. (one of the blogposts) in which this is explained. Oh well, what the heck, here it is: “http://www.highexistence.com/mind-blowing-story-talking-to-god/”
about the story:
It’s not necessarily the truth, but it sheds a different light on things. :)
@Keenan I think that you summed up “religion” the best.
Why all the hate on atheists? I’m an atheist, but that does not mean that I think I know what comes after this life. I fit the label because I think it is just as plausible that after we die, we dissipate back into the nothingness that we came from, with no further journey. There is no proof, but it fits the patterns of life and death just as well – after all, life comes from death, death comes from life, so it’s not like death is so scary that I need to explain it away by saying I somehow don’t die.
All of these conversations are too hard to have on simplistic levels. All I’ll say is that if there is anything that lasts beyond death it’s the actions we do in life, not what religion we choose to follow (or not follow!).
crocodiles was just an example, I just hate the way that the human race thinks that they are superior to all other animals on earth.
when it comes to intelligence then yes but intelligence is only a small factor in what makes a successful organism. (come back in a couple of million years and we’ll see how successful humans really are. through our own intelligence we will have probably wiped ourselves out)
it all depends on the environment, put people in the sea and we’re hopeless. yet sharks have existed there for millions of years.
Christian.. sperm whales dive 3 km down every day with no technology and that’s just to get lunch… beat that humans.
Jacob I would agree with the god being the sun part.
if there was no sun there would be no earth, hence no moms. :)
I think Pharaoh Akhenaten got it right. he was the 1st one to come up with the idea of of there being only 1 god. and that was the sun god aten
later egiptian text avoids calling the Aten a god, giving the solar deity a status above mere gods.
This debate about whether or not human beings are better than other living organisms is, quite frankly, pointless. I know that’s a bit harsh, but we are no better or worse than any other living thing out there, just different. We evolved a certain way, just as other animals did. The fact that crocs did not evolve for thousands of years (or whatever it is you’re arguing with that) is arbitrary when measuring who is better. We all play our role, albeit many would argue that humans play their role poorly, it’s a product of our evolution as a species and society.
While there is a possibility we may wipe ourselves out, there’s also an equally possible future where we wise up and use sustainable energy, stop cutting down the rainforest, and sit around in a circle singing kum ba yah.
Regarding the original post and the following story: that makes me smile.
God is not one. God is at one. The children in the picture are just as much their mom as their mom is god.
God repeats just like birth repeats. Just like life repeats. There isn’t just one single entity controlling anything. We are all parts of a god web running around out of control. We’re so out of control yet people will still believe that there is a divine thing “fixing” everything so its better.
If the analogy is that God is Mom, then the earth would be the placenta.
By the way, my names not Jacob, but i’ve been called that before.